Kids in UK Get $30k COVID Fine!
Kids in UK Get $30k COVID Fine!
Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. I'm Barry Nussbaum. Joining me again today is the beautiful, talented, and brilliant Katie Hopkins.
Katie Hopkins: I came after a bit of an oversell Barry people are now expecting those things. I may underdeliver. It's a concern.
Barry Nussbaum: I think it's accurate. So just play along, okay? I'm astounded by the agreement among three people that I don't think have ever agreed on anything.
Donald Trump Jr., AOC, and Senator Ted Cruz from Texas, two conservatives and one communist are on the same page on this wacky series of trading platforms that are all involved in Robinhood. What's going on?
Katie Hopkins: Yes. So very brief that somebody on Reddit, a social media platform, recognized that traders were trying to short the market over a particular share offering from GameStop and encouraged Reddit users to get involved.
They were making a huge amount of money by kind of gaming the system. In order to stop the little people from making money, some of them making four thousand dollars a go. Some of it looked like they were going to be able to bankrupt some of these hedge funds that had gambled very heavily on this stock.
What happened was these trading platforms called Robinhood and others stopped the trades of the little people in order to protect the hedge funds of the big powerful people. What it did, of course, it blew up this idea that, hold on, not only are we powerless, not only are we having our elections messed around with now that the stock market isn't, as it seems, either.
The little guy isn't allowed to make money. But the point of this is that what happened is the AOC, Ted Cruz, Donald Trump Jr, all ended up in agreement, of course, that this was wrong. What I think is almost lovely about this story, not only is it a great sort of parable of the little guy getting their voice heard, but it is actually a great thing when AOC, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump Jr. could agree on a point.
I think that is a very great thing, that people can put politics aside and just go for what is right over what is wrong. That's what happened at this moment and I think we need more of that.
Barry Nussbaum: Oh, no question. But consensus-building seems to have gone down the toilet right around the time Biden got inaugurated.
Katie Hopkins: Yes, true.
Barry Nussbaum: I don't think we're going to expect to see more of it.
Katie Hopkins: No.
Barry Nussbaum: Speaking of crazy times, we've got some really wacky stuff happening in the U.S., but it's even worse in the UK when we're talking about enforcement of these lockdown restrictions relating to the governmental response to COVID. I'm hearing stories about people being arrested for the most bizarre charges. Can you detail a couple of those? What's going on over there?
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, sure. So, in the UK, and without a word of exaggeration for effect, it's illegal to leave your home right now. If you go out, you're allowed to go out once a week to do some shopping, get groceries, no stores are open.
You're not allowed further than seven miles, that is the radius from your home. You're only allowed to exercise once a day alone and in a way that isn't as bad in itself, it's the draconian policing of that. So, we had a gentleman yesterday wrestled to the floor in a supermarket for wearing his mask incorrectly.
Then we have two children, which was a thing I loved, organized this kind of spontaneous snowball fight because we just had snow here and it ended up it was a lovely thing. It was all these kids outside throwing snowballs, strangers who didn't know each other, all, you know, all over the place.
They got these two kids and they fined them £10,000. So, $15,000 each for being part of coordinating a snowball fight. I mean, it just is enough to kind of make you weep for- where did we lose our, you know, the Brits are supposed to be known for our sense of humor and our personality.
Somewhere along the line, or for being in sort of begrudging and grumpy, but where's our fun gone? You know, how are we doing this to our own people? I tell you, Barry, even though the British aren't very good at an uprising.
There is a large number of people who really, really have had enough. You know, this is now pushing people beyond anything we've ever known. We've never seen anything like this.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, I have a story similar not as bad. I was at the supermarket here and I was checking out and the lady behind the counter who was checking out my groceries said to me, "Hey, how you are doing?"
And I said, "Great, how are you doing?" "Great", and then she said, "Sir, I need to ask you to pull your mask up a little higher. I can see the bridge of your nose," and I said, "Okay". So, I pulled it up and she said, "It's for my protection.”
I said, "Okay". Then she gave me the total and I was paying, and she leaned over, and she said, "I'm really sorry. I had to say that. I think this is all stupid and I just want to apologize personally. I don't think I should have to say something like that to you."
Keep in mind, she was behind a plexiglass barrier. I mean, I would have had to go up eight feet and down the other side to get a germ on her and she still had to say it. But at least she had the humanity to smile and give me a private apology.
Katie Hopkins: Oh, I just, I find it emotional because I think that's where a lot of people have got to. I had somebody- I was out running and they cycled past me and they shouted at me because I had my headphones on, and they were on the side.
I caught up with them later and said, "You don't need to shout when you're cycling by." And the lady said, "Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't really mean it." And I think that's one of the things we've got to a point where people are so sort of uptight that they say things and they know they don't want to say it.
You know, they are almost regretful, as they're saying it. That sort of angry, they can't let it out, and then when it comes out, they feel bad. So, I'm sorry. That's such a sweet story. What a sweet lady for saying that.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, I got the apology and so did you but meanwhile, we're being deluged over here with rules that are changing every 12 minutes.
So, your family has a conflict, I understand a mom and dad want to get the vaccine and you don't think it's a good idea. How are you going to resolve it?
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, and that really happened when I went to the States. When I left, it was all in order and Mom knew it was crazy. She was healthy, Dad's healthy. They weren’t going to have it. I left to the States for three weeks and one of my family members who works in socialized health care kind at got them.
I came back and it turns out they've signed up and they're waiting for their appointment. I don't know, Barry I feel dreadful in all sorts of ways because I don't want to be the annoying kid that tries to put the parents off. What if mom didn’t get it and the vaccine could have been helpful?
I mean, I don't know. I'm a skeptic, but and then also I feel that what if Mom does get it? And my dad but my mom and what if something happened to her? What if she were one of the ones who got poorly afterward and then I would really want to turn on this family member?
So, I have all of this stuff going on and normally I feel quite in control of my life, but I don't feel in control of this. So, at the moment, I'm biting my tongue. I’m keeping my tongue, and trying to just say, well, they must do whatever they want to do, but that feels wrong.
Barry Nussbaum: Oh, so what do you make of these rumors out there, Katie, that airlines are going to say not only do you have to have a test that shows your COVID free to get on a plane, but you may have to show your COVID green card, meaning, look, I got a vaccination and if you don't, you can't get on a plane.
Katie Hopkins: I believe that's absolutely already here. I mean, we were told by the British government vaccination passports weren't going to be a thing. I have in my email inbox from somebody on the inside the government contract for a supplier already producing and supplying a vaccine passport.
It's absolutely coming. It's absolutely on its way here. I fear there's going to be- I don't know what it means for travel for people like you or me in the future, but it's a real concern. What's also a concern is we're always being lied to.
You know, you have someone on TV saying one thing and then in my inbox, I've got the paperwork showing just the opposite is true. So, yeah, I absolutely think it's coming our way.
Barry Nussbaum: So, here's my vaccine question that I ask that nobody seems to give me an answer. We had dinner the other night with a couple of medical doctors and I asked the husband and wife, they're both doctors and they were clueless.
I'm going to ask you, I know you're not a doctor, but I know you're super connected. If a great deal of people gets the vaccine like a, ridiculous number 70 or 80 percent of the population and certain people say, you know, I'm just not comfortable with it.
I don't believe the efficacy. Maybe it works for version one, but now we're up to five or six or seven mutations and nobody knows. They really don't. There's been no research. Why should the person who doesn't have a vaccine need to be discriminated against by people that do have it, because, quite frankly, just to make the example personal, if I don't get it and you do, why do you care that I didn't? Because I can't infect you. Because you've been vaccinated. Can you explain that to me? I don't get it.
Katie Hopkins: No, and there is no logic behind it other than I know exactly what you're talking about because they try and force the normal flu vaccine into our children. So, my seven-year-old, they try and force it in school. When you are part of the group that says, "No, I'm not having it.
I've never had it for my son because he's healthy." I'm told that it's a selfish attitude because I should have him vaccinated in order to protect the elderly who might catch it. Whereas I always have your view as well, which is, well, if the elderly person wants to have the vaccination, good for them.
I applaud them. No problem. It doesn't and shouldn't affect my son. When people say, "Yes, but it's all about the herd", you know, I think, well, I'm not a sheep. My son isn't part of the flock and we are individuals.
It just seems to me as well, isn't it, that the other side they flex with my body, my choice for certain things, which are vile things often that involve the end of life. But when it comes to vaccination, my body, my choice is thrown out the window and individual choice is nowhere to be found.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, and to be really succinct about the question, if using my scenario, Katie, you got the vaccine and you believe it works and the scientists tell you it does.
Katie Hopkins: Yes.
Barry Nussbaum: The pharmaceutical tells you it does, and the Ministry of Health tells you it does. Why do you care if I got it or not?
Katie Hopkins: Right. It's also this weird group thing, isn't it? You know, people in the UK are mad at the moment because some people went to Dubai. Part of me is like, you know, what if they've gone to Dubai, so what.
You're just angry because they're having some fun. As long as they weren't the ones that locked you down don't be angry at the people having fun, be angry at the government that's stopping you from having fun. We misdirect anger, I think, very easily these days.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, we've got some weird times coming, young lady, because I think it's going to get to the point where those mysterious passports people are going to be flashing them on Facebook.
You know, for a long-time people were putting on their profile: Save Lives, Stay Home. Masks Save Lives, I'm Wearing One. The next one's going to be: I got my vaccine passport, did you? That's coming.
Katie Hopkins: Horrible people, they just love the moral high ground. I always say to people, you know, if you stand too high up on the moral high ground, when I look up, I can see you're not wearing any underwear.
Barry Nussbaum: Okay, I'm officially stealing that one. That was brilliant. Thanks, Katie for coming on today, and thank you out there in ATP Land for tuning in. I want to remind everybody, please subscribe to our text message alert system.
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