Dr. Bill Warner Predicts Reaction to Political Islam
Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP report, I'm Barry Nussbaum. We are back talking about political Islam with the scholar in the United States, Dr. Bill Warner. Please go to his web site, political Islam. I want you to read what he says in his own words quoted right out of the source material, so you are educated into what we are talking about today. Welcome back, Dr. Bill Warner.
Dr. Bill Warner: Glad to be here.
Barry Nussbaum: Let's talk today specifically about what has happened to you and others who are quite simply holding up the Quran, the Hadith, the Surah, basically the backbone of Sharia and saying, “Here's what it says viewing audience read along with me it's been translated and let's figure out what this means.” That's what you've been doing, correct?
Dr. Bill Warner: That is all that I do. I teach you about Allah and Mohammed. That's really all that I do.
Barry Nussbaum: An I was going to add, and you're a scholar about it. In other words, it's not written in a way that people can't discern well, where the hell did he get that idea? You quote it, and then you say, here, go look it up. Now, when I was studying in college and in grad school, that's the way you wrote a term paper. You didn't just make conclusions; you showed where the source was.
Dr. Bill Warner: Exactly.
Barry Nussbaum: And that's what you're doing, Dr. Bill.
Dr. Bill Warner: I'm a scholar. That's what I do.
Barry Nussbaum: And a former college professor, as we know. So how have you been received for your scholarship?
Dr. Bill Warner: Well, there have been some people who went, “Oh, my word, you make it all clear now. Now I understand". I get that response, and that's the most pleasing, and then the other one is you're a racist, hater, bigot, Islamophobe, Nazi, white nationalist, whatever your string of insults is and it's not just me. It's anyone who tries to do what I do, Robert Spencer, whoever else.
Barry Nussbaum: What's the idea? Shut up, Bill Warner?
Dr. Bill Warner: Shut up, don't talk about this, but it's the truth. They will say, “Well, you're not interpreting it right, or we don't need to be listening to people like you we need to be listening to an imam because you provide the wrong context. So they want people are desperate to not know this material, Barry because if you really understand what I'm saying, it's like my whole life has to be changed.
Barry Nussbaum: I remember the first time I read the Quran, and I didn't have the benefit of your book that puts it in order of chronology so that I knew what the current version was because there are a lot of contradictions. It was confusing to me, but I’ve got to be honest, it scared the hell out of me. I mean, it was some of the most violent, aggressive, totalitarian structures I'd ever looked at, and I didn't understand why everybody hadn't read it and understood it. So what is the purpose of the, what you called in one of our earlier episodes, the apologists for Islam? What is their purpose in getting you isolated and not listened to by the masses?
Dr. Bill Warner: If people like me, would shut up people would go back to sleep. See, the problem is they're asleep, and I keep saying you need to wake up, you need to wake up. That's not a popular person.
Barry Nussbaum: I know you talked earlier in one of our previous episodes about textbooks, and you mentioned Tennessee. Is that going on nationwide?
Dr. Bill Warner: Of course. I mean, these textbooks are sold across the entire United States.
Barry Nussbaum: And who's writing them?
Dr. Bill Warner: Apologists for Islam. These are people who will do whatever it takes to be liked, to be told there a good boy, good girl, and here's a paycheck.
Barry Nussbaum: So mainstream media is not reporting on this.
Dr. Bill Warner: No.
Barry Nussbaum: jihadis aren't mentioned, the affiliation of many of these people who commit atrocities are buried under workplace violence or a mentally unstable person. Would you say that the mainstream press is complicit in the cover-up of what is happening here in America?
Dr. Bill Warner: Big time. I've never known of anything in the mainstream media that was written about Islam that was true. At best, it rises to the level of half-truth. Nobody wants to have this information. One guy, said to me, "Bill your problem is this it's like your best friend is married to the most beautiful woman in the world she's worth a billion dollars, and she's very charming, and she's cheating on him." He doesn't want to know she's cheating on him because he's got a good deal going. So he says, "You bring nothing but bad news." And talk about being politically incorrect, it's hard to get more politically incorrect than I am.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, social media seems to be on the opposite side of this equation.
Dr. Bill Warner: But since Bezos well since these titans of Silicon Valley are ruling us, they don't care what happens to someone like me. They have other agendas, and I'm not really sure what their agendas are, but they're not; if I ran a media outlet, I would not try to resolve the truth for anybody; I would say these people are having a fight here's what these people say. Here's what they say and not try to resolve but instead, they try to say no people like Bill. He's just wrong and not only he's wrong, but he's also harmful. He's hurting minorities. So what we're going to do here, I don't know about social media because it's only getting worse and worse. I have one suggestion as to what may happen. We'll see.
Barry Nussbaum: I'm dying to hear it.
Dr. Bill Warner: I think we're going to be driven back to pre-social media in politics. If you hold a political opinion that's not popular with the social media, I think we're going to go back to having to be in the same room with somebody, and I see a future for of all things as brochures. I think we're going see more up close and personal political pressure that we have to exert ourselves, because I don't mean to be a poopy pants here, but I think we're going to be entirely I fully expect every day to open up my computer and discover that my YouTube channel has been blown away. I've been blown away in other places. I have an organization in Europe, and we're now purged from Facebook in Germany. There's been a dreadful law passed ruling by the court in the EU, which is that if the Czech Republic censors this, then everyone has to censor it in Europe. So we're going to see the censorship become worse and worse because they want to shut us up and Barry the reason they want to shut us up they cannot debate with people such as me and other scholars. They can't debate us. So they're throwing debate out the window and just say we'll go to the totalitarian model, shut up.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, it's a gloomy picture.
Dr. Bill Warner: Um-hmmm.
Barry Nussbaum: And I don't think you're wrong. I happen to agree that it's getting worse. What's the Bill Warner solution, suggestion? What's encouraging words for our listeners today to take away?
Dr. Bill Warner: Well, first off, we do have more and more people who are becoming educated about what the true doctrine of Islam is. What we're missing is that when individuals read this material, they become realized they are awakened, and they go, "What are we going do?" We do, we have to furnish them with people to work with. People such as myself, who will go out on their own are freaks. We need to have it such that the people are being awakened by reading books such as mine and others or they have a team of people they can work with so they have partners, and that is what I think the next critical step is. Is that we're going to have to get to know each other more, and we're going to partner up with people because we can't do it alone.
Barry Nussbaum: And how would you suggest that happens?
Dr. Bill Warner: I'm working on that.
Barry Nussbaum: When you're ready, we'll bring you back.
Dr. Bill Warner: Well, when I'm ready, alright.
Barry Nussbaum: Because I really want to hear the Doctor Bill solution.
Dr. Bill Warner: We have to start working together. I cannot defeat Islam. Let's get clear here. Nor do I even think for a moment that I could, but with the right group of people, I could do it, and so we're going to have to pull together the right groups so the people will work together.
Barry Nussbaum: Can people reach out to you through your website?
Dr. Bill Warner: Oh, sure. Do all the time. As a matter of fact, there's an appreciable part of my day that is spent dealing with my email input.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it. He will look at your messages, and he will get back to you, Politicalislam.com. Please check it out. For American Truth Project, ATP Report, thanks for joining us. Before we go today, please take out your phones if you haven't done it already and text the word TRUTH to 8 8 2 0 2. That will sign you up on our messaging service. It's always free. You'll get this and other videos almost daily from us, so you will be informed. For ATP Report, I'm Barry Nussbaum.