Clare Lopez: With or Without the U.S., Israel Will Destroy the Iran Nuclear Program
Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP Report. I’m Barry Nussbaum. We have a terrific guest today. She’s going to be on in just a second but first homework assignment for all of you out there that haven’t completed this assignment. Please take out your cell phone, text the word TRUTH, T-R-U-T-H, and address it to the number 88202. You’ll be signed up for free for all of our ATP content, including today’s special guest, which happens to be a friend of the family, Clare Lopez.
As you know, Clare has a very impressive background in various roles, with the United States government overseas in the intelligence field at the CIA, the State Department, and other places. She writes, does videos, is the expert on everything about American policy, and is the founder of Lopez Liberty LLC. Hello. Welcome, Clare.
Clare Lopez: Thank you, Barry. Another great intro. Thank you very much.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, it’s all you, so it’s easy. Let’s start with the new variety of the month. I’m referring to the Omicron variant of the SARS-COVID virus. Especially now that it’s in the news and nobody says Delta anymore. That was so last month.
This month it’s Omicron. Apparently, it’s more contagious and less deadly. So, as you and I have talked about, as the virus mutates, as all flu viruses do, it becomes more contagious and less dangerous, but we’re panicking like crazy. My question to you is why?
Clare Lopez: Well, you’re right about the Omicron variant Barry, that it is a mutation. We are well down into the Greek alphabet by now. There have been previous mutations that nobody ever even noticed, Lambda and Mu. The original variant or the original SARS-CoV-2.
The Alpha no longer exists, but yes, viruses mutate all the time. This is their nature to mutate, and the more obstacles, read vaccines, are thrown in its way. The more the virus, anthropomorphizing just a bit here. Tries to, wants to evade those obstacles.
So, we are down to the O. The Omicron of the Greek alphabet, but also typically, as you say, the further along the variations go, typically with a virus, the more contagious, the more transmissible. You can see why.
Again, anthropomorphizing, but the virus wants more hosts to infect. At the same time, less deadly, less lethal, and happily, so far with this variant, Omicron, there are absolutely zero deaths of Omicron. There is one reported death out of Britain, as I understand it, of somebody who died with Omicron. That might have been a speck of virus on their PJs. Nobody really knows for sure, but one last bit on this, and it’s a bit of a question mark. That is, where did this one come from? Yes, they spring up naturally.
This is Darwin, natural selection. You know, selection or survival of the fittest, but we’ve been told it originated in South Africa. In fact, it seems that this variant, Omicron, originated next door in Botswana. It originated with a couple of visiting diplomats whose home country is never mentioned.
Now, if their home country were a neighboring Malawi, Mozambique, Namibia, or, you know, another country in Africa, they would have said so right away, but they haven’t. So, the question hanging out there is, where exactly did this variant come from?
Is it purely a result of natural selection, survival of the fittest, or is something else going on as with the original variant? The Alpha, the first one of SARS-CoV2, which we know, of course, came out of the Chinese Communist Party, People’s Liberation Army weapons labs.
Barry Nussbaum: But Clare, I agree with everything you said. Actually, even the mainstream media agrees with everything you said, so that’s one of those rare occasions. The part I don’t get is that viruses run their course, as my late mother used to say, and you need to let it do that. Then it just went away, and she was right. That’s normally what happens. Why are we panicking over this? Why are they now talking about booster number two and booster number three? We have to conquer Omicron. We’ve got to do new shutdowns. Why?
Clare Lopez: Well, I’m going to refer to an excellent set of videos and interviews by a Belgian intellectual. I believe a medical doctor named Dr. Matthias Desmet, D-E-S-M-E-T. He proposes to answer your question that what has overtaken the entire world, or at least a good part of it, is what he calls a mass formation.
We might call it something more along the lines of mass psychosis, or even I’ve heard this term mass hypnosis. In other words, people around the world have been scared out of their wits by something that has no bigger a lethality rate than the annual flu. Then on the flip side, there are those, again, many places in the world, but especially we’ll say here in the United States.
At the municipality, the city, the state level, and certainly at the public health level in the United States that have used, have cold-bloodedly used this crisis to #1 make gazillions of dollars in profit from “vaccines.” Well, that’s air quotes “vaccines,” of course, they’re genetic therapies. #2 to impose power.
To exert power over the population and to shut down the economy. To ruin millions of small businesses. To keep kids out of school, losing class time for more than a year, and on and on we go. It is mandating a penalty of losing your job or getting jabbed. This is too theoretical.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah. I can tell you in just listening to you. The more I listen, the more I agree that this makes no sense, and yet we’re doing it. Speaking of no sense, let’s talk about Iran for a minute. The P5+1 is going full speed ahead, trying to put the deal back together in Vienna. Specifically, a JCPOA amended agreement. Except now while they’re talking, even though the United States is excluded from the room.
Iran is firing up more centrifuges than ever before, enriching more uranium than ever before. They’re literally on the cusp if they haven’t crossed the line into being able to manufacture half a dozen nuclear bombs. Yet what’s leaking out of the communications in Vienna, Clare, as you know so well, is Iran isn’t going to give up anything. They’re going to allow some cameras at the wrong sites.
They’re not going to allow inspections where they really should be, like Fordo, which is under a mountain. They’re running thousands and thousands of centrifuges, and it sounds to me like the only thing the various countries on the other side of the table are going to get is a new trading partner. Meaning we buy their oil, and we invest in their companies. Iran gives up nothing. Am I missing something here?
Clare Lopez: No, Barry, you’re not missing anything at all. So, here’s the thing about Vienna. This is, I believe, the seventh round of talks being held there. They include the P5+1, as you say, that is, the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, U.S., I’ll mention that in a minute, U.S., U.K., Russia, China, France, and the +1 Germany, plus the European Union represented there, too.
However, here’s the thing. The U.S. at Iran’s demand is not even in the room, is not even allowed to be in the same room as the others who are negotiating. Our Department of State meekly, Anthony Blinken, just said, okay, we’ll sit out in the hallway just as long as you promise to come out and tell us what’s going on now and then.
That’s what’s happening. They’re not even in the same room, but all of them piteously begged the Iranian regime to be allowed back into the July 2015 nuclear deal. But here’s the problem-
- Iran is playing games with them, slapping them all upside the head, and demanding that all sanctions ever imposed since the beginning of time be removed before they’ll even budge on these negotiations.
- I think this is more important. That is since 2015. We’re now in 2021, six-plus years later. The Iranian regime has so far surpassed the provisions in that nuclear deal as you were enumerating their Barry, in terms of numbers of centrifuges, the advanced models.
They were supposed to be the first generation allowed to be deployed, IR1, as they call them. They’re up to installing IR6, six generations on. So, newer, faster, better centrifuges. More centrifuges than were allowed under the deal, and then enriching uranium at greater volume than was allowed under the deal to a much higher-level percentage of enrichment, the deal says, 3.67%.
They are openly acknowledging now that they’re enriching up to 60%. You can make a bomb out of 60%, but the ideal is over 90% weapons-grade, and who knows how many warheads they’ve already made in places, as you say that the IAEA, that’s International Atomic Energy Agency nuclear watchdog for the United Nations.
Their inspectors are not even allowed to go to, and yes, the Iranian regime has smashed cameras in some of the places we know about. Never mind the places we don’t know about that, of course, they don’t have cameras, but now the places we did know about have had the camera smashed, broken by the regime, and they’re not being allowed to be repaired or replaced. This is where we are at.
Barry Nussbaum: So, Israel sees that, and apparently the Israeli leadership is the only government in the world that’s saying, hey, the emperor has no clothes, and we’re not going away. So, now their warnings to Iran and the rest of the world have never been more explicit. Defense Minister Benny Gantz, formerly commander of the IDF, the Israeli army, has made it very clear, so has Naftali Bennett, the prime minister.
Just as Bibi Netanyahu did previously, there will be no nuclear weapons in Iran, but the United States, a few days ago, denied long-range tanker aircraft, which could refuel dozens of Israeli bombers in the air. No one knows why. There was no explanation given other than the United States said no. Will Israel attack anyway, Clare Lopez?
Clare Lopez: Well, the first thing that we need to acknowledge, of course, is that Israel is squarely in Tehran’s bull’s eye. They are the first target. They are the ones most in immediate danger from this regime in Tehran, should it deploy deliverable nuclear weapons.
Now back to what we were talking about with regard to the deal and how far past the deal the Iranians have gone. It’s impossible to go back to that deal. It’s just not possible to do that, but meanwhile, of course, all these steps.
They openly acknowledged steps are being taken, and yes, the top levels of the Israeli government, Prime Minister, Defense Minister Chief of the IDF Chief of Staff, Kochavi. It’s a period of months that I’ve heard them make more and more explicit warnings directed right at Tehran.
We will not allow you to deploy deliverable nuclear weapons. I think the Israelis probably have the best intelligence about where the Iranian nuclear weapons program is. In my opinion, I think it is probably because the Israelis depend on an internal network of Iranians.
It is probably affiliated with the Mujahadeen-e-Khalq that keeps them informed on where the program is and how far along, but this is something that baffles me, and that is again, my personal opinion is that Iran has been building warheads for some time now.
I think, personal opinion, they probably have maybe somewhere in the range of five to 10, but under the international definition, it’s not officially called a weapon until that warhead gets attached to the nose cone of a missile, a delivery system.
Barry Nussbaum: And Iran has announced new ICBM missile tests this week.
Clare Lopez: There we go.
Barry Nussbaum: There’s your delivery system.
Clare Lopez: And one last point that you mentioned. I wanted to comment on it, and that was the Israeli request. It was a request for expedited delivery of midair fueling tanker aircraft that are already on order, and I guess they’re going to be delivered.
I think they said somewhere towards the end of 2024, but they asked for expedited delivery because they need them ASAP. That’s what was turned down.
Barry Nussbaum: Disgusting. Unbelievable. If we have a nuclear war or if we have an attack on the nuclear program. I hold the American government culpable for not standing against Iran’s regime and the open arrogance, making it very clear we’re building nuclear weapons.
There isn’t anything you can do about it. Then a middle finger comes up, and we, as you said, sent out in the hall hoping to be told what’s being negotiated. I’m disgusted. I really am. Clare, tell people where they can find out about you.
Clare Lopez: Well, certainly right here at American Truth Project, and you heard Barry give the cell phone text number, 88202, which if you put that into your cell phone, and text it to my name L-O-P-E-Z, you’ll get announcements, text messages for my specific videos like this one that we’re doing today.
Also, I publish at the Citizens Commission on National Security. I write at the David Horowitz Freedom Center’s online, FrontPage magazine. Join Jamie Glazov on the Glazov Gang now and then. You can find me on social media too @ClareM Lopez on Twitter. Also, my name at Facebook, and Lopez Liberty on Telegram. One more before I forget, and that is The United West.
Barry Nussbaum: The ubiquitous Clare Lopez, she is everywhere. Thanks for coming on today, Clare, and thank you out there in ATP Land for joining us on a very special episode. Listen to Clare Lopez. Send Lopez to 88202, and push send. You’ll get all of her stuff absolutely free. For ATP Report, thanks for joining us today. I’m Barry Nussbaum.
Anni Cyrus Explains Why Islamic Elected Officials Will Not Follow U.S. Law
Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP Report. I’m Barry Nussbaum. We have a wonderful family member guest today, but before I bring her on, I want to remind all of you in ATP land. Please take out your cell phone; if you haven’t already done it. Text the simple message truth in the message box, and send it to the number 88202. When you push send, you’ll automatically be subscribed to our text message alert system. It’s always free. You’ll get all of our content like today’s show in the palm of your hand every time we release something, and you’ll never pay for it. Ok, hopefully, you did it.
Let me bring on Anni Cyrus. Anni Cyrus, as all of you know, is the national expert on what happens to a woman in Islam. She’s an escapee from the Islamic Republic of Iran. She has a story that is like no other. She has founded to Live Up to Freedom. She happens to be the editor of everything we do here, and she’s been with us since the very beginning. Welcome back, Anni.
Aynaz Anni Cyrus: My pleasure. Thanks for having me back, Barry.
Barry Nussbaum: Let’s start with what’s going on in the political news vis Islam in the United States. Hamtramck, if I say that right in Michigan, has a six-member city council; they were just elected. Every single one of the members in this Michigan small town is a Muslim, and the mayor is as well. They are now taking office in January.
It’s believed to be the first all Muslim administration in the United States and this town. Its officials now say even though they’re of the Islamic faith, all of the members have vowed their religion would not impinge upon their duties as councilmen.
So, here’s the question that no one but you and I seem to be asking, which is if all six of these council people and the mayor are really practicing Muslims. Doesn’t their religion, Islam require them to follow Islam over the laws of the land when there’s a contradiction? If they choose Islam over Michigan law or United States law, what happens next?
Aynaz Anni Cyrus: Well, let me start here, Barry. You said they have all vowed that their religion will not affect their job. If that’s the case, why is it so important for them to repeatedly say we are Muslim? Why is it so important to wear their religion on their sleeve? Why is it so important to say the first all-Muslim council in America? That right there tells me that their being Muslim has everything to do with what they’re planning to do.
Personal opinion or just a question. As far as me believing they’re not practicing Muslims, as I said they are. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t wear it on their sleeve. Now, because they’re practicing Muslims because they’re very proud of being Muslim they will follow what is ordered, and the order is you follow the law of the land until it goes against the words of Allah or Sharia.
We have discussed this many times in the past few years, you and I, Barry, that Sharia goes completely against our Constitution, which means our Constitution goes against Sharia. So, they will be put in positions where they have to choose. If they claim to be Muslims, then they have to choose Sharia. Therefore, let’s say if a woman is involved with an argument, and the man is involved, they’re going to have to take the man’s word over the woman because, well, under Sharia, a Women’s word is counted as a half of a person.
Barry Nussbaum: All right, let’s make the news even bigger and more horrible, shall we? Based on your answer. The election of Muslim candidates across the United States has just broken the all-time record, and here are some examples. Tania Anderson is a Muslim lady elected to the Boston City Council in Massachusetts. Etel Haxhiaj was elected to Worchester City Council in Massachusetts.
Abdullah Hammoud is now the mayor of Dearborn, Michigan. Amer Ghalib is the mayor of Hamtramck, Michigan, as we just talked about, and Azrin Awal is elected to the Duluth City Council. Shamar Haider is elected to the New Jersey state legislature. Omar Mohamed is on the Galloway City Council. Shahana Hanif is the New York City Council member. I mean, it goes on and on.
Now, I assume all of these elected officials, as is normal and customary in United States politics, will take an oath, usually on the Bible. Although I imagine these people will swear on the Quran to uphold the local law, the state law, and the National Constitution. How can they honestly do that in light of what you just told us?
If they are acting contrary to the laws of Islam they have to switch from the laws of the land to Islam. Now isn’t it true that when there’s a contradiction between the laws of the land and the words of the prophet or Sharia, they must choose Islam? What happens then if they make that choice?
Aynaz Anni Cyrus: Well, I can give you a very simple answer, which is, you just named 11 people. So, imagine 11 more Ilhan Omar’s and Rashida Tlaib’s Boom, you have the answer, but I’m going to expand a little bit just to make sure no one who’s watching this video would go on their impression in any shape or form that we have any problem with Muslims, we don’t.
The conflict here is the fact that, for example, when Keith Ellison was taking office, when Ilhan Omar was doing it when Rashida Tlaib was doing it, and when Hussein Obama was doing it. They all have said the same thing; they did.
When it came to it, Hussein Obama opened the White House door and let the Muslim Brotherhood in. When it came to it, Ilhan Omar forced Congress to lift one 108-year-old ban to let her in with her religious wearing hijab. When it came to it, Keith Ellison got away with beating his girlfriend because, under Sharia, that’s allowed. You see where I’m going, right Barry?
Barry Nussbaum: Oh, absolutely, Anni, but here’s the more complex question. If you remember, we talked about this several years ago. Thomas Jefferson was so concerned about the conflict philosophically and religiously between the Book of the Mohammedans, as he called Islam and the laws of the new land.
He said, ‘unless they walk away from that book, they can’t be Americans’ because he saw the conflict in the 18th century. What’s going to happen when they’re asked to choose? How will they choose?
Aynaz Anni Cyrus: Oh, they will choose Sharia. They will choose Islam. Remember, I say this with such confidence, not because I’m an Islamophobe. No, I say this because I decided to choose American freedom over Islam. Guess what? I got bounties on my head.
They want me dead for it. So, there is no other choice. If they choose to follow the Constitution, respect our freedom and liberties here they will put their own head out there, possibly being chopped off or doing what they did.
So, knowingly or unknowingly, they will end up choosing Sharia and Islam. Again, if this was like, I don’t know, 15 or 20 years ago, this would have been a guesstimate, but as I brought up examples, they have proven to come in, and when they are sworn in, they do use the Quran.
They come in, and they end up being practicing Muslims. Now, they will just get more powerful going back to Quran 47:35, where it says: “Do not call for peace when you are superior in numbers.”
Last year, in 2020, we had 89 Muslims elected to office. This year in November, we had 11. Comes 2022, CAIR is encouraging more than 200 candidates to run. It’s just a matter of time until they are superior in number than the blasphemy law comes in. Then the First Amendment will be revoked.
The second, and before you know it, as I called it in 2015, we will be saying, welcome to the Islamic Republic of America. I know it’s dramatically hard for most Americans to wrap their head around it, but I come from it.
The Islamic Republic of Iran was Iran by itself, known as Mini America, in the Middle East. Now, for the last 43 years, it’s the Islamic Republic of Iran. Very recently, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, right. So, that’s where it’s going to go. That’s what’s going to happen unless we all do something about it. I’m sorry to be brutally bringing bad news. It is the reality.
Barry Nussbaum: Anni, I can’t argue with your logic. Skipping over across the pond to Liverpool, England. A taxi driver is the hero of Great Britain after he witnessed a jihadi in the backseat of his taxi. Get this, assembling a bomb! He slammed on the brakes, jumped out, locked the door, and the bomb detonated. It killed the terrorist. Britain is now on nationwide high alert, expecting another attack.
So, here’s the part I don’t get. The British borders are virtually wide open. Immigration from the Middle East, mostly Afghanistan and Somalia, is unchecked. Nobody is being vetted. There are no background checks. These people are flowing in by the tens of thousands. After what happened, and Great Britain has intelligence that more attacks were coming. Why don’t they close their borders?
Aynaz Anni Cyrus: Because if they do, then there will be no more terror attacks? I’m sorry. Bad joke, probably. Let me add something real quick for our audience, who have now followed the news on the Liverpool taxi bombing. This happened in front of a woman’s hospital. In front of the entrance, I believe it’s called the Labor Ward, where are all the pregnant women are.
This Muslim jihadi was about to take out mothers and their babies. For anyone who thinks they are peaceful. That is the extent of the inhuman act he was about to commit, as to why they’re not closing the border?
Genuinely, honestly, I know this sounds like a ridiculous joke, but because they don’t want to be Islamophobes. Because they don’t want to provoke Muslims, they will look the other way. They will run to cameras and announce this had nothing to do with Islam. Knowing it had everything to do with Islam because the guy was whispering Allah Akbar as he installed and put together that bomb.
Still, they will do everything in their power to not be Islamophobic and not provoke Muslims, especially under the circumstances of ISIS being back in power. They are too afraid. They are cowards. They don’t want to face reality and fight back.
Barry Nussbaum: You might be right, and it’s very sad because there will be more attacks, according to British intelligence. Anni, tell our viewers where they can get in touch with you and follow your work,
Aynaz Anni Cyrus: LiveUpToFreedom.com is my website, LiveUpToFreedom.com. Also, I come in and have a good chat with Barry Nussbaum about every other week on AmericanTruthProject.org. So, those are the two places you can find.
Barry Nussbaum: Well said. I urge all of you to follow her. She’s a brilliant and courageous young lady. Please remind yourself if you haven’t done it. Sign up for our message alert system by simply messaging the word truth to the number 88202 and push send. You’ll be signed up, and you’ll get all of our stuff like the wonderful Anni Cyrus, absolutely for free. Thanks for coming on to watch us today. For ATP Report. I’m
Robert Spencer: Palestinian Authority Honors Female Terrorist Killers As Proof Of Women’s Equality!
Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP Report. I’m Barry Nussbaum. We’ve got a very special friend of the family, back again today to educate us on things we absolutely need to know, but first housekeeping.
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Let’s bring out Robert Spencer. Robert Spencer is the founder of Jihad Watch. It is the source of jihad not only around the world but especially here in the United States. He’s the editor of Jihad Watch. He is the author of some two dozen books. He is the man to ask. He is our scholar on jihad, and we welcome you back today, Robert.
Robert Spencer: Always good to talk to you, Barry. Thank you.
Barry Nussbaum: Let’s jump right in, shall we? The belligerence of Iran internationally, and especially vis-a-vis the United States, is growing weekly. They antagonize everybody in the Middle East, in their region, and it has grown tremendously since Biden took office.
They are supposed to rejoin the talks to reenter the JCPOA, the Iran nuclear deal, but just ahead of that, they have a monster military exercise going on in the Gulf of Oman. They have ships, planes, manned aircraft, special forces, defensive and offensive missile systems, and they’re flying the Israeli flag in the background of the videos they’re putting out.
What is their intent to fly the Israeli flag? What message are they sending?
Robert Spencer: Well, the message is very clear. These war games are intended to prepare the Iranian military for their ultimate operation which will be directed toward destroying Israel altogether.
That’s why they are practicing, and that’s the message that they want to send. This is all about their genocidal rhetoric to destroy Israel that they had been repeating for years.
Now, because they see the Biden administration as weak, they are emboldened, and so they’re stepping it up. It’s a net full-scale war game, and it presages further aggression on the part of the Islamic Republic in the near future.
Barry Nussbaum: If you had to make a prediction, Robert, is it going to go beyond war games?
Robert Spencer: Oh, sure, eventually, it will. The Islamic Republic of Iran has considered itself on a war footing with Israel ever since it was founded in 1979 and with the United States. The problem is, of course, that the Iranians are not idiots. They know that they would probably lose in a military confrontation with either one of those.
However, now with our woke, useless, laughably ridiculous military in the United States, and the Biden administration’s increasing hostility to Israel Iran sees its chance and may well take it.
Barry Nussbaum: You wrote an interesting article in your publication, Jihad Watch, which just astounded me, and I want our viewers to hear about it. You talked about Palestinian women are now being honored for their role as terrorists.
National Palestinian Women’s Day just took place. The PA Minister of Women’s Affairs, Amal Hamad, highlighted female martyrs and mass murderers as proof of gender equality in Palestinian society.
In other words, they have these various events where women have blown themselves up, have killed lots of Israelis like Dalal al-Mughrabi, who killed 37 Israeli civilians, including 12 children in 1978, and because they blow themselves up, as I understand it, that makes them equal.
I mean, except for the part about the husbands can beat them, have numerous wives, forcing them to cover up, and genital mutilation. I mean, forget all that stuff, but in terms of equality, if they die trying to kill Jews, they’re equal. Is anybody buying this?
Robert Spencer: Well, they believe it because they celebrate these people as heroes. If you were to go to Gaza or the Palestinian Authority holdings in Judea and Samaria you would see that the jihad terrorists who have murdered Israeli civilians are on posters on the wall and are taught in schools as heroes.
It’s ridiculous that this is being held up as a sign that the Palestinians believe in gender equality, but as far as they’re concerned, that’s really what it is. They celebrate female murderers as well as male murderers. So, see, women have rights.
It’s ridiculous, of course, in light of your allusion to the wife-beating and the other aspects of the Islamic law that deny equality of rights to women. It’s also likely that Western leftists will fall for this because they have always been unwilling to confront the plight of women in Islamic law.
It’s very clear that the idea of multiculturalism, respect for Islam, and the fear of so-called Islamophobia trumps any real concern for women’s rights. This is likely to be no different.
Barry Nussbaum: Well said, and the stupidity and the ignorance around the world regarding this subject matter are just discouraging. There is some good news; Republican senators in the United States have reintroduced the Muslim Brotherhood Terror Act.
The draft bill is now out and has sparked a huge controversy because Senators Cruz, Inhofe, and Johnson are leading this movement in the Senate to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization that is in most countries around the world.
But for some reason, in the United States, holding these people accountable for their terror around the world seems to be inappropriate, I guess. They want to withhold $130 million in military aid to Egypt. They are the opponents because they want Egypt, the opponents of this bill, to release Muslim Brotherhood terrorists from Egyptian jails. Who’s on the right path here?
Robert Spencer: Well, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist designation is never likely to pass because there is so much Muslim Brotherhood alliance and infiltration in the American government. Remember a few years ago, former Congresswoman Michele Bachmann introduced a bill to compel the United States to examine and investigate Muslim Brotherhood infiltration into the U.S. government.
She was denounced on the Senate floor by John McCain, denounced by the establishment media as Islamophobic and racist, and there was never any investigation.
Meanwhile, an Egyptian paper, Roselle Yusuf in the at the end of 2012, at the time the Muslim Brotherhood regime was in power there was celebrating the fact that there were Muslim Brotherhood operatives in the U.S. government and had turned the U.S. around from being hostile to the brotherhood to favoring it.
Now, those people are still in place and still in power. Remember Joe Biden last summer when he was doing his facsimile of a presidential campaign, he appeared on Zoom at a Muslim Brotherhood-linked organizations conference and promised that Muslims would be appointed to every level of his administration.
Given the fact that its people are connected to Brotherhood-linked organizations like the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Islamic Society of North America who is guiding those appointments, he was saying essentially that he’d be putting more brotherhood operatives in the government.
Now, with Brotherhood operatives in the government and their allies in the government how are you going to get the Brotherhood designated a terrorist organization?
So, I applaud the reintroduction of the bill, but it doesn’t have a chance.
Barry Nussbaum: Discouraging, to say the least. Speaking of a terror organization, the Palestinian Authority, and its military arm, Fatah has been under orders from chairman/dictator for life, Mahmoud Abbas, to build embassies all over the world.
They’ve built about 100 of them. The new one in Tunisia has just opened, and there’s a huge monument in front of the new embassy in Tunisia that has a map of Palestine. Except it’s the map of Israel, but it’s labeled Palestine, so the official governmental authority for the Palestinians is saying there is no Israel.
There is only Palestine, and it’s our country. Is it any surprise that Israel does not have a peace partner when they are the designated representative? They are the organization Israel is supposed to be negotiating a permanent peace treaty with, yet they deny the existence of the State of Israel. Is that a good peace partner?
Robert Spencer: Well, you’re right, Barry. This is part of the cognitive dissonance of the American government. Barack Obama, in his first two terms and now in his third term, has insisted that the Palestinian Authority, led by Mahmoud Abbas, was the peace partner for the Israelis. Never acknowledging the repeated genocidal rhetoric, absolute intransigence of Abbas, and other Palestinian Authority leaders in calling for the total destruction of Israel.
Making it very clear that not only did they want Israel destroyed, but that no Jew would live in a Palestinian state, and they’re the peace partners? So, it’s very clear why there’s no peace. It’s all on the side of the Palestinians, and their intransigence that comes from the jihad doctrine; drive them out from where they drove you out. Which is in the Quran Chapter 2:190. This is the complete, all-encompassing obstacle to peace that makes all of the negotiations an empty exercise.
Barry Nussbaum: Quite frankly, as a parting thought, the word from the territories, the Palestinian territories, is if Abbas ever would become a little bit conciliatory before he dies. They’ll kill him. So, he’s between a rock and a hard place, so to speak. Robert, tell our viewers today where they can follow you and read your stuff.
Robert Spencer: Yeah. I am on JihadWatch.org online and @JihadWatchRS on Twitter. There is a Facebook page if you can find it, but it’s very hard because Facebook doesn’t want you to know about the nature and magnitude of the jihad threat today.
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