Robert Spencer: CAIR Executive Labels Nearly All Of American Jewry As Enemies
Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP Report. I'm Barry Nussbaum. Our very special friend of the family and ATP regular guest will be on in just a second. But first, I want to remind you all out in ATP land to please subscribe using your cell phone. It's absolutely for free. You can sign up by simply opening a blank text message and sending the word TRUTH in the message box. Address it to 88202. When you push send, you'll be signed up for free. It'll take about four to five seconds.
We never charge for content, so that very special guest I was alluding to is Robert Spencer. Good morning to Robert. He is the founder of Jihad Watch. He's written 22 best-selling books. He is the nation's best-selling author and an expert on jihad in the United States and around the world. He's the scholar on the subject. Welcome back, Robert.
Robert Spencer: Always good to talk to you, Barry. Thank you.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, let's get right into it. I have spent the last four or five hours reading Jihad Watch, which I normally do, but in preparation today, you had some astounding reporting in the last couple of days.
Let's start with Zahra Billoo, from the speech that she made in front of the American Muslims for Palestine's 14th annual conference in Chicago. Now, the media ignored her commentary, but you didn't, and thank you for calling that to our attention. She made a horrible speech linking Islamophobia and Zionism.
She said Zionist organizations want to ban all Muslims and all kinds of other things. I mean, she literally says that the audience should oppose fascists and oppose even the polite Zionists. The polite Zionists are the people that support the ADL, The Campus Jewish organizations, Jewish Federation synagogues, and so on. She said all American Jews are your enemies.
So, Robert, I could go on and on and on, and you quoted extensively from her horrific speech. Who is she, and why should we care about what she says? Then I want to ask you, why are you the only one reporting this?
Robert Spencer: Barry, Zahra Billoo is the chapter leader of the San Francisco chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the leading Islamic advocacy group in the United States and a group that the Justice Department has established as ties to Hamas.
Now, the Council on American-Islamic Relations accordingly is deeply inveterately anti-Israel. Also, because we're talking about hardline Sharia adherent Muslims, it's very likely that many, if not most, of them have imbibed the anti-Semitism that is deeply embedded in the Quran and the example of Mohammed.
So, Zahra Billoo comes out with a speech. It's interesting to note that it's gotten very little coverage, as you have pointed out, but I have not been the only one who reported on it. The Middle East Media Research Institute did so, and several others, the Jerusalem Post and so on.
What is noteworthy is that she is now taking a sabbatical, which indicates that the Council on American-Islamic Relations, CAIR, is feeling the heat. They should be feeling the heat from this because even the ADL, which is very far to the left and has always been on the side of CAIR, on the side of the idea that there is some kind of Islamophobia in American society, which she was talking about at the American Muslims for Palestine conference.
Even they found her speech a bridge too far and denounced it. Asking her for an apology, and so on. So, it's interesting they're taking her out of the limelight for a while, hoping that this is all going to blow over, but what she's done is reveal the deep-rooted Islamic anti-Semitism that all too many Muslims in the United States hold to. That is based on the Quran, which says, among many other things, about the Jews that they are the worst enemies of the Muslims. That's Chapter 5:82.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, said, and thank you again for publicizing this because the mainstream media doesn't consider this newsworthy, I guess. So, the White House has stepped in it this week, and now it's getting worse because the president's horrific commentary on the winter of COVID has now been reflected by White House spokespeople.
They are saying, "We are intent on not letting Omicron disrupt work and school for the vaccinated. You've done the right things. For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death for you, your families, and the hospitals."
I mean, they're quoting Biden, who said that a couple of days ago, word for word. It's like the Black Plague is striking down Americans by the tens of thousands, and this is while vaccines are now being said to cause all kinds of problems and health side effects that were never mentioned before.
So, here's my question, Robert. If the vaccine doesn't prevent COVID, and three vaccines, you know, vaccine one, two plus booster, don't prevent COVID. Why the ominous prediction from the president? Could he be hoping that millions do get sick and die?
Robert Spencer: You know, Barry, I hate to say this, but I really do think they are hoping for that because it would be vindication for the White House. The White House has said that you'll be all right if you get vaccinated. Now, as time goes by and more vaccinated people get COVID. That has proven not to be the case, but they've dug in now.
So, they feel they have no choice but to double down and say, well, it would be a lot worse if you hadn't been vaccinated, which is a completely unproven and unprovable proposition. But ultimately, the only thing that will prove them right now in all their dire predictions is if there is a winter of mass illness and death.
So, we're in a very peculiar position where an American administration that should be caring for the American people has painted itself into a corner and is hoping that millions of Americans are going to die so that they will be proven correct in what they have been telling us all this time.
Barry Nussbaum: What a horror story, and you know, I'm an NFL football fan. I don't know if you are. There's a requirement in the NFL that everyone gets vaccinated, and these are the world's greatest athletes. Football player after football player, team after team, is getting sick with COVID, but they're vaccinated.
I don't get it. Still, the President's going to say millions could die this winter without the vaccine. Oh, thanks for commenting on that. I'm just so frustrated. So, let's talk about a story that's getting no coverage except for Jihad Watch, your site. There's this group, the li-Da'awati terrorist group, that every week in Nigeria and the surrounding territories seem to be slaughtering Christians. They surround churches as the Christians are worshiping. They kill the men, women, and children.
Unless they happen to spare somebody to take them away to be soldiers for them under penalty of death if they don't cooperate, they're slaughtering various Islamic terror groups left and right across Africa. The numbers of Christians slaughtered are dramatic and go up like a skyscraper straight to the sun.
Why is it that there's no press coverage, it seems, except for Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch? Will the world just watch and do nothing as Christians are slaughtered every week?
Robert Spencer: Yeah, I think that's true. That what they're going to do, Barry, nothing. I see this on Twitter all the time. When I post these stories about the Muslim massacres, jihad, massacres of Christians in Nigeria, Nigerians write to me. They thank me for covering this saying, nobody in the West is paying any attention to this.
I think it's because here again, as I noted earlier, it doesn't fit the narrative. The establishment media has a paradigm, a template for stories revolving around Muslims and Christians. The Muslims are always the victims, and the Christians are always white supremacists, racist bigots, and aggressors.
If it's a story that doesn't fit that paradigm, then it just doesn't exist. So, in Nigeria, you have Muslims who are black, murdering Christians who are black. Avowedly because of Islamic principles, and an Islamic government that is turning a blind eye because it has many people who sympathize with this jihad in the government, but it doesn't fit the paradigm because there's no way you can portray these Christians as being the aggressors.
They're not white, so down the memory hole. It doesn't exist.
Barry Nussbaum: I got to tell our viewers the stuff you publish is startling. It's horrific, and it makes me incredibly sad not only that this mass murder goes on a regular basis. It seems every other day I'm reading an article you post, but nobody seems to care. Nobody seems to care.
Robert Spencer: Well, another thing is the Islamic advocacy groups like CAIR that we were discussing before. They've done a number on us, and they've made most Americans assume that you just can't talk about this. You can't discuss jihad terror activity because it would be Islamophobic. So, they don't. It just doesn't exist.
Barry Nussbaum: You're right. The IOC, which is the International Olympic Committee, said in a letter this week that they're canceling international competitions now in host countries that do not allow Israel to compete. I was shocked when Malaysia would not let Israeli athletes come in for a world championship in their country.
This is where the former prime minister once said he was glad to be labeled anti-Semitic, and in the face of that, I'm really shocked. The International Olympic Committee said international sports associations must receive written confirmation from the host country. They'll allow every country, including Israel, to participate. If not, there will not be a competition. What will the majority of Muslim countries do now? Not compete or invite the Israelis?
Robert Spencer: Probably some will do a bit of both. The Sharia states, notably the Islamic Republic of Iran, will almost certainly pull out. I would be shocked, absolutely to the core, if they say, okay, we will go ahead and compete with the Israelis. There are some other states on that level that I would be very surprised to see competing with Israelis. Pakistan, the Taliban's Afghanistan, and so on, but some of the countries in the Abraham Accords, may well go ahead.
On the other hand, they are under pressure now from the other countries that didn't enter into the Abraham Accords to repudiate them and to return to the Islamic fold. So, we'll have to see how that plays out. I think that probably some will go ahead and compete, but probably more will pull out.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, we've got the Olympics coming up and a lot of championships after that. It's going to be interesting to see which side some of these, as you said, the majority of Muslim countries, side with. Robert, tell people how they can learn about what you do and follow your brilliant writings, please.
Robert Spencer: Thanks, Barry. JihadWatch.org is the only news site about jihad activity in the United States and around the world. Then I'm @JihadWatchRS on Twitter, and there is also a Facebook page. You can also find my author page, and all my books on Amazon.com, at least for now.
Barry Nussbaum: Well said, and I advise all of our listeners around the world who follow ATP. Robert Spencer is the expert. Please, follow him on all of his platforms. You do not want to miss anything he says on a daily basis because the news just keeps coming, and he is the guy that puts it out there for you.
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