Will Johnson’s Firsthand Report From D.C.
Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Radio. I'm your host, Barry Nussbaum. We have a dynamite show for you today. Joining us to discuss what went down in Washington, D.C. on January 6th and all of the aftermath, which just gets weirder and weirder every day.
Here is the dynamic, informed conservative Will Johnson, the founder of Unite America First. Will, are you there?
Will Johnson: I am here.
Barry Nussbaum: Welcome aboard. So glad to have you. We've got so much to talk about today. After watching what I saw on TV and realizing, having talked to you before the show, that all may not be as it seemed. I'm thrilled that you were there.
With your eyes in the crowd, you know what happened. So, let's start with an overview, Will Johnson. You were at the D.C. rally. As we talked before, it was reported 200,000 300,000, maybe as many as 400,000. You've got a different idea of the crowd. Why don't you give that to us?
Will Johnson: You know, when I was there, I saw so many people you couldn't even see the grass. The last time before this January 6th event, I was in D.C., and it was well over 100,000 people.
But the mainstream media said it was only 900 people, which is completely a lie. So, many people showed up on January 6th to stand up peacefully, mind you, and show support of President Trump, this nation. The left, those tyrants, they hate it. I mean, just beyond belief how much they hate it.
Barry Nussbaum: You know, as you and I have talked, they say the biggest crowd ever on the wall in D.C. was for Martin Luther King Jr. This was 50 something years ago. If you're right about your estimate on the number of people there, this is bigger.
In terms of recent American history, quite frankly, there's been nothing like it. Is there anything that compares to this kind of crowd?
Will Johnson: No, nothing at all. You know what the craziest thing about it is that the left, the mainstream media, they all know that there was more than me that were there.
No matter what, they refused to tell the truth. There was nothing like it. So many people showed up. It's because we see what is happening in our country. We see what they're doing. This is total destruction of our country—a betrayal at the highest level.
Barry Nussbaum: What is the purpose, or what do you make of the reasoning behind the fact that the crowd is being underreported? Why would they do that?
Will Johnson: The reason why I say that they are doing this is, they don't want people to know there are people actually standing up and for them to give people the idea that you should stand up. They don't want people to know that.
Oh, wait a minute, all these people are standing up peacefully, showing their presence, saying, hey, we don't want this tyranny. Yet, because that is taking place, they don't want people to know. So, they react by lying to the American people, like they've been doing.
Barry Nussbaum: Why did you go? Let's start with that. I mean, it's a big deal. You don't live there. It is a lot of aggravation. Obviously, going to D.C. with a million people at the same time must be a logistical nightmare. Right? Why did you do it?
Will Johnson: Well, I went because I love this country. I went because I wanted to document what is happening to our country. I've constantly said that if we don't re-elect President Trump, he is going to be; this is my opinion, I'm praying that I'm wrong.
But in my opinion, he's going to be the last decent President this nation will ever have, one that will always put Americans first. He is going to be the last one that brought in the jobs the way he did. He will be the last one that created the economy the way it was.
He is going to be the last one that didn't take a paycheck and donated his paycheck to the American people. He's going to be the last president. Now, with them trying to impeach him, they're trying to make sure to impeach him by bringing up the 25th Amendment, so that they can put him in handcuffs.
Then that way, they can silence him forever. Still, I would say over 80 million people support this president. It's more than that now because more Democrats are saying what is happening is not right.
The ones that actually care about this nation, the ones that actually care about the truth, know this is not right. They are speaking up as much as they can without being attacked by people that are on the left. A lot of them are just silent.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, let's talk about what happened. Let's start with this. I saw the shots on TV. I'm sure you saw it after you went home. It looked like a complete riot at the Capitol building. I didn't see the mass crowds with the mothers, fathers, grandparents, and grandchildren.
Because a number of our ATP people were sending me videos, it looked like the 4th of July. American flags, MAGA hats, picnics, everybody was loving on everybody else. I saw older people, young people, white people, black people, Hispanics, Asians.
I mean, it was a big cross-section of Americana. It looked like a 4th of July party, except for the fireworks. That wasn't on the press. Certainly not anywhere you could access it. You had to get a video before it got taken down that somebody like you shot on their cell phone. Right? Then, Will, you saw the Capitol, and it looked like World War III.
Will Johnson: You notice anything that's putting Trump supporters in a bad light, they are making sure everyone sees that. They are making sure everyone gets to view that. You even have the mainstream media right now calling any Trump supporter that was there a domestic terrorist. They're calling us terrorists!
Barry Nussbaum: Right. That's what I want to get at. That makes you a terrorist by association. What did you do other than peacefully assemble? That is your right under the Constitution. Speak your mind.
That's your right under the Constitution. Protesters or support your government. These are all rights guaranteed to you as an American. How do you feel, personally? What category of domestic terrorists?
Will Johnson: It is disgusting. It is absolutely disgusting. This country has been tormented by Antifa, the BLM, and these socialist-communist Democrats for the past four years.
Not a single time did any of these media outlets labeled them as domestic terrorists. I mean, literally being terrorized by the left, literally being killed by Antifa and BLM. They refuse to label them as terrorists. Here it is, we have the American people that went to the people's house, the so-called people's capital.
All of a sudden, these people are terrorists. They're calling Americans terrorists because we do not want these so-called kings and queens to turn our country into a communist country.
I mean, seriously, we pay their bills. They are supposed to answer to us. As far as the Constitution, I have been saying this for months, Barry. That these Democrats have already, and I'm going to repeat what they said.
They have already demonstrated it, and they've already said that the U.S. Constitution is an out of date document. It needs to be revised or either just completely done away with. The first thing they're going after is not the Second Amendment.
That's not the first thing. A lot of people say they're going to come for our guns. No. The first thing they're going after is the First Amendment. Your free speech. They are shutting down communication.
They are censoring people from having a civil conversation. They are shutting down people from just communicating with one another. They have already censored and blocked the current sitting president of the United States of America.
The first thing they are going for is our free speech. Once we are no longer able to communicate, tell your neighbor that they're coming for your Second Amendment. That is when they're going to do that. A lot of people do not recognize it.
Barry Nussbaum: I can't tell you how wrong I hope you are, my friend. That is the abrogation of the sacred rights granted to us in the 18th century under the most brilliant document in modern history, the American Constitution, and its amendments. That's all that protects us from turning into Venezuela, Russia, or North Korea.
Will Johnson: Our China.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, or China. That is one of the biggest players in this right now. Many people don't know that. They are one of the biggest players right now, the CCP.
Barry Nussbaum: How do you mean that?
Will Johnson: The Communist Chinese Party. They are one of the biggest players. Joe Biden has already been made known that he owes China. Hunter Biden, the pictures that they are censoring everyone from seeing.
All the information about Hunter Biden and his dealings with China. The big tech companies in the mainstream media are preventing everyone from seeing that information.
So, they wouldn't hold it against Joe Biden. The same thing that they did by saying, President Trump was colluding with Russia. It has completely been proven wrong. It is like the media doesn't care, and the law enforcement in this country doesn't care that Joe Biden had actually colluded with China.
The same thing they blamed Trump on. So, everything that they say that Trump is doing or anyone else is doing. They are actually doing it themselves. It is so frustrating right now. I don't know if you can tell in my voice right now, but I'm just so irritated. These people, Barry, are straight-up evil. All I want to say is they are doing these evil acts.
Barry Nussbaum: I totally hear it. I can tell you that if what you're paranoid about turns out not to be paranoia but a realistic expectation of what's on the agenda with these people. Look, Will, I thought this stuff might happen in a month or two. Biden's not even president yet. Right? They are not in control of everything yet, and this is happening.
Will Johnson: That is this part of the reason they want to impeach President Trump. They want to get him out of the way. What is President Trump doing? I almost feel like he's, I hate to say it, it is just a feeling. I'm almost feeling like he's abandoning us. Because we see what is happening, this is happening, and it is still under his watch.
Barry Nussbaum: I wish I knew. I do not, and I can not respond with some sort of intelligent observation as to what the hell is going on. Although I wish there had been something he could have done. Nothing seems to have worked.
In terms of preserving our rights, I'm sad to say. But there is still a week. Not that I'm hopeful at this point, right? We have got Melanie from Louisiana. She wants to ask us both a question, so let's see what she has on her mind, go ahead.
Melanie: It is more of a statement to touch on what Will was saying. Don't think that this is not planned out. I watch everything. I record everything. Do you think the Democrats leading those states did not have those businesses destroyed so Joe Biden can come in and save the day?
Or how about the land that has been sold in Texas and New York to Chinese people? They destroyed small business owners and the collective areas they had their businesses in, then turned around and sold the land cheaply.
Barry Nussbaum: I'm distressed, Melanie, that we don't have a mechanism in place to regulate enemies of the country, buying up assets of the United States. Once it goes in that direction, unwinding it becomes incredibly difficult.
Imagine if you would for a minute. American companies go into China to build their plants. Buy the land, get the factories built, and they make Toyotas, Fords in Beijing. That's illegal. You're not allowed.
Melanie: General Electric is already sold to China. That deal is already in play.
Barry Nussbaum: Oh, yeah. We are allowing the engine of America, farmland, factories, workers, technology to be exploited and exported. It doesn't have to leave the country. It can still be in Texas, Louisiana, or California.
Melanie: Oh, it is here. I live on the farmland. I can tell you how many acres have been sold to Chinese representatives through LLC and CCP companies. It is ridiculous, and you don't think that they want to grow food for Americans? Do you? No, they don't.
Barry Nussbaum: Oh God, no. They are running out of food.
Melanie: These people, no offense, Will, but I do feel sorry for minorities if China does because they don't like minorities. That scares the hell out of me. It does.
Will Johnson: You know what? Let me say this. It is not just minorities. They've already picked it up to attack white people. What do you think the attack on white people came from? The Chinese are using white people and black people, having us all at each other's throats.
Melanie: Exactly. That's what the playbook is. If you listen to the media, they have caused more divisions than anybody else in this world. Let us be straight. They are like echo chambers in saying the same thing over and over, going from channel to channel.
So people say all five of these channels say the same thing. It must be true. Right? That's what people who sit home watching this crap listen to. Instead of showing Antifa destroying Portland, mostly peaceful, they're going to focus on the capital.
Why didn't they focus on the capital when it was taken down by the women's march? They breached it. Where was the FBI? Where was the FBI in Portland when those cops lost their vision and people were killed on the streets? Where were they then?
Will Johnson: This is by design to create a scenario that does not exist by saying that Trump supporters are all domestic terrorists. It's not even those of us that were at the capital.
They're calling anyone who supports President Trump, a domestic terrorist. Before, they were calling everyone supporting President Trump, especially if you are white, a racist neo-Nazi. So, now it went from that to calling all of us domestic terrorists.
It's by design. They are already talking about not allowing conservatives even to hold a job. They created a hit list. They put me on the hitlist. BLM has me on a hitlist right now to take me out as soon as they can. What is being done about that?
Melanie: They did that to Cash too. Cash has a court document case coming up. For something, he did years ago. He's turned his life around. Now, they probably hurt his court case.
Barry Nussbaum: Melanie, thanks for calling. We appreciate it.
Barry Nussbaum: So, Will, I was reading some notes this morning from Robert Spencer, who we work with, and Robert says that he's gone over everything Trump said that there would not be any violence.
He didn't call from violence. He wasn't calling for some kind of coup. But all the media, the social media, the mainstream media, the tech giants. They're talking about what happened when you were there as if Trump was trying to install himself as dictator of America.
Based on the guy dressed up with horns, the other dope running around the Capitol building as if they're working for him. Do you know what I mean? What strikes me historically, as someone who studies history.
In 1933, after Hitler came to power, just four weeks after he was in office. The Reichstag, which is their parliament, the same as our capital, caught fire. They caught Dutch communists who probably did it. He had a mental incapacity.
He probably didn't know what he was doing. No one knows whether he did it with the Nazis or on his own. But they used that one incident of terrorism, which was arson, to blow it completely out of proportion. What did they do with that?
They enabled Hitler to become a dictator. They took away all the rights of the German people. The parallel right now is astounding. The rights of people like you, as we just talked about, are being severely limited in your ability to communicate.
To assemble, to give your opinions. Why? Because you're labeled one of the, quote, "domestic terrorists," which I find incredibly insulting, inappropriate, and un-American. What separates us as a country from these other countries, was our right to do these things.
Now you may not have those rights. I may not have those rights, and that scares the hell out of me. Doesn't it scare you to death?
Will Johnson: You're not alone, Barry. A lot of people keep thinking that everything's going to go back to the norm, everything's going to be normal. I did a video day before yesterday about an airline. It was Delta.
Where an airline was in the air, mind you. They're flying from one location to another. Somewhere during the flight, the Captain of the plane decided to do an emergency landing. The reason why he wanted to do that emergency landing is that they found out that there were Trump supporters on the plane, having a private conversation about how they supported President Trump. What does that sound like to you?
I just did the video report, and the lady in the terminal was crying. They made her get off the plane. They were having a private conversation, and they overheard her talking with another guy. They were just talking. You can tell she was with somebody. She's crying, and they kicked her off the plane. An emergency landing, mind you.
Barry Nussbaum: Holy cow. What that tells me is we're on our way to becoming North Korea, China, Russia, Venezuela, or Iran. Where you can say whatever you want, as long as it matches the party line. In every country I just mentioned, there's one party.
If you're not a member of that party, then you're on the outside. You're the opposition. You're by definition the enemy of the state. We have always prided ourselves on being able to talk about anything. Apparently not anymore.
Barry Nussbaum: We have Lynn from Florida. You have a question.
Lynn: Yes. I've heard several comments, not from Will shows, but on social media, etc., that we have communist Chinese warships on the east coast of the state lined up. So, can anybody verify that?
Will Johnson: I've heard rumors about that. I've heard rumors of Russian and Chinese soldiers on the southern border, even on the northern border. The problem is that they are putting out all this information, and half the time, actually, more than half the time, none of it is ever true.
They're doing that, trying to give us this false hope that something is going to change all of this. That communism is not here, but it is here.
Lynn: Look, what concerns me is MacDill Air Force Base is right across the bay from where I am, and we hear the F-15s and other kinds of planes every day. They're running across the state, so my concern is that I think they're out there, and the Air Force is being watched. They're watching.
Barry Nussbaum: You know, Lynn, the important thing is to listen to what Will said; there's so much disinformation, it creates confusion and overwhelms the mind of the listener to the point where you literally become paralyzed with so much junk floating through your head.
I've gotten dozens of emails in the last two days that Nancy Pelosi's in jail and the pope got arrested. Just one wacky report after another and don't kid yourself. Sometimes these things get forwarded ten thousand times in a day.
Leading people to believe they're true. They aren't always true. Thanks for calling, Lynn. We've got Roger up next. Roger has a question from California.
Roger: Hi Barry. Hi Will, how are you guys?
Will Johnson: We are good. Thanks.
Roger: Yeah, you know what? Back to your point, Barry, about misinformation. A lot of folks do get caught up in that. Unfortunately, what do we have left other than hope, right? I think everyone expected Trump to win on November 3rd.
Then waking up that morning and hearing about the elections being overturned. What more evidence do these Dems want, or what more does the public need to see? We got a video again of people pulling stuff out from under the tables.
We got shredding companies on site where there shouldn't be. I'm just concerned that this is going to affect future votes in elections. In essence, it is a pathway for the Dem to win. Naturally, every four years. The conservative base has lost its trust in the system.
There's no way they can restore that now if they go after your guns and all that other stuff. I mean, it's over. It's game over. I feel that is why there is that hope, that needs to trust in some of this wacky news.
Even myself, I'm a victim of that. You know, the Vatican, the blackouts, and whatnot. Where can we turn? I despise even turning on Fox. I despise turning on CNN. What do we do?
Barry Nussbaum: You made a very good point, Roger. Thank you for your question. I can tell you that people like Will and myself, I'll let him answer as well. We spend an inordinate amount of time sifting through news reports.
I think today I had nearly three hundred messages when I started looking at my inbox at 5:05 this morning. A lot of what I do is figure out the real from the sketchy or the made-up. I can tell you if you find sources like Unite America First, which is Will's, and American Truth Project, which is us. We employ and work with dozens of people to create news feeds that we're comfortable with.
When we're sure, we say we've got it. When we're wrong, we say we're were wrong. Unfortunately, the mainstream media doesn't do that for you. So, I would admonish all of you to have a bit of healthy skepticism. You have to look at who is giving you the report. Will you want to add to that?
Will Johnson: Yeah, I completely agree with that. I mean, you have to pay attention to who's relaying information. When people relay stuff to me like the back channels, I never come out and say, hey, this is going to happen, that's going to happen.
The main thing I'm constantly telling people is, we've got to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. That's just a common theme. You're right about the mainstream media, Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC. All of them are lying to the American people.
It feels bad. It almost feels like we've been let down. We see the corruption, and the law in the country is not doing a damn thing about it. Nothing. So, are we a country of laws or not?
It's like all of the laws that we thought we had, the U.S. Constitution, the First Amendment, the Second Amendment you alluded to. Once they come to take the guns, the game is over. Once Biden is inaugurated, it's already game over. When that day comes, we have truly lost American to communism.
Roger: I'm going to tell both of you guys, mixed with the whole COVID thing, which is depressing in itself, 2020 is nothing short of depression with covid and losing that freedom.
Like going out, hitting up the gym, getting your haircut. What worries me is all these new strains and all this talk. I knew this was coming. Once that vaccine comes out, all there will be is another strain. So, you know what?
We have to face reality right now. But adjust, and we have to coordinate. I truly tell you, if they go after your guns and the churches. The things that are sentimental to folks, it's literally time to not sit around. We have to do something.
I'm not talking about violence, but I do say that people need to congregate and discuss it. I think what Biden is saying is to bind people together. It's not happening right now. It's just not happening, and they have not even taken office.
Barry Nussbaum: If you haven't noticed, I'm being a little facetious, Roger. They have a different agenda. Thanks for calling in today. We've got Ann in the lineup. What's your question for us?
Ann: I'm glad you guys are on, and this is very informative. The question I have is, is it true that CCP had coital training in Canada? I think this is the first week of December.
Barry Nussbaum: I don't believe it. I did see that report that they were training on Canadian soil. I don't think it's true. The story went away. Will, do you know anything about it?
Will Johnson: I saw some video footage of Chinese soldiers marching, but there was no way to verify that it was actually in Canada.
Ann: Yeah, I saw that video, and it did look like Chinese people. But you couldn't make the GPS location, so. There's no telling where it was.
Barry Nussbaum: I appreciate the question. This is typical of how we operate. In other words, you asked a question that you saw something. You are asking two people that are well informed. We are giving you our feedback.
We are not jumping up and down screaming. Run for your guns. Do you know what I mean? This is the way we find out. So, thanks for your call. I appreciate it.
Ann: Can I make one more comment?
Barry Nussbaum: Yes, go ahead.
Ann: It was said in the article that I read, and this was a foreign article. It said that the government had canceled the training because China had kidnaped two Canadian citizens. Now, this was in a foreign article on the Internet that I read.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, I don't have any information on that at all. Will, do you?
Will Johnson: I don't have any on that either, but it goes right along with there's another report out there saying that the Chinese government, the CCP says, that they have Chinese soldiers on standby.
For a President Biden to put on the soil of America. So there are so many rumors and so many stories going on out there. I truly believe it's being put out there to cause disinformation, to mislead us, misguide us, to have us all confused as much as possible.
Ann: Will, can I text you a link that I have from that.
Barry Nussbaum: You can send it to Anni, our producer. She will look into it.
Barry Nussbaum: I just got a text message in response to your question from one of our contributors. I don't want to name her without her permission. She is a former CIA officer. She said that she understands that eight to nine senior CCP military officers trained in the People's Liberation Army did winter training in Canada.
Yes, there are Canadian citizens held in China right now. But the training was canceled after rebel news exposed it. So, that's directly from my inside source. That lady is rarely wrong. Let's go back to some other questions. Thanks for calling.
Barry Nussbaum: This is interesting, Will. The commercial response to what happened on January 2nd is bizarre and getting even weirder. Now, if I was to say Forbes' to you, or Forbes media to you, your normal response would be, Oh, Malcolm Forbes, Steve Forbes, conservative economy, leaning Republicans, free speech advocates, and so on.
When Steve Forbes ran for president, I had a very small private lunch with him. I found him extremely interesting. He is a very strong constitutionalist. As they say in Texas, come to find out, the Forbes family doesn't own Forbes anymore. They have new ownership, and their chief content officer is a guy named Randall Lane.
You're not going to believe what I'm going to read to you. This is a quote. Forbes Media is holding those who lied for Trump accountable. A true reckoning sounds like the re-education camps after the Chinese revolution, or the Vietnamese took over the North Vietnamese took over South Vietnam.
They had re-education camps where they sent people to these horrible torture places until they learned the truth: follow the state and what it dictates. Ignore personal liberties and rights because they don't exist anymore. Listen to what Forbes is going to do. He says that he singled out five senior White House officials.
That he portrayed as, quote, "the people paid by the people to inform the people." He mentioned Sean Spicer, former White House press secretary and co-host on Newsmax. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Stephanie Grisham, all in the press office, the current Presidential spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany, and former adviser to President Kellyanne Conway.
All people should be singled out in the media, so they never get hired by corporate America. Holy cow, Will, this is Forbes magazine, which people used to think were pro-rights, pro-freedom, pro-capitalism, and now, their stooges of the big deep state. Have I shocked you this morning?
Will Johnson: No, you haven't, because actually, they've been talking about making it to where Trump supporters or anyone in the Trump administration can never hold a job. This was under the radar. I saw it, and I've been talking about it.
The reason why I've been talking about it is that they've been saying it before now. They are coming out even more progressively, saying that they are going to do this. It's not going to stop with people that have worked in the Trump administration in the past. They are going to go even further with people who were outspoken.
Like yours truly. Those who have supported President Trump. I live just outside of Austin, Texas. There is a shop here that went on social media, and they said, if you're looking for a job and we find out that you have an account or had an account on Palor, we will not hire you.
So, this thing that we see here is about to get bad. So bad for conservatives that we're not going to be able to find jobs. I'm just waiting for them to go to the electrical company and start turning off the lights for anyone that they find out was supporting Trump, cutting their Internet, cutting any food supply. And when they bring in the vaccines, we could have an entirely whole three-hour show on that.
Once they bring it in and say that you don't have your papers, but in this case, it's going to be a vaccine. You won't able to buy anything, go to the movie theater, hold a job, get on an airplane, go to a federal building, down to the park, or go to your stinking mailbox. That's how far they're going to take this.
They're even going even further. They don't even want you to be in your home by yourself unless you get it. Because there might be a case or a time when you step outside your door, it is that bad. Some people still don't get it. Some people say they're not getting what is actually happening in the United States of America, which was the greatest nation in the history of the world.
They've literally destroyed it, Barry. They're destroying the country that has been the beacon of humanity, the light of freedom throughout the world, throughout history. They are literally destroying it.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, let me just pile on a little bit. There is a company that distributes a number of conservatives. I'm specifically referring to Ben Shapiro, Dan Bongino, and others. The company is called Cumulus Media.
Their head of content, executive Vice President Brian Phillips sent out a memo yesterday saying, they don't produce the shows, but they distribute them coast to coast. They said any on-air personality that alleges that there were improprieties with the presidential election in November, which is anybody with a brain is saying that.
If not saying it, you're deaf, dumb, blind, or somebody won't accept anyone but Biden winning. You can call that person whatever you want. This guy Brian Phillips said anybody that questions the election will be terminated.
They won't distribute their content anymore. He said we need help to induce national calm. We will not tolerate any suggestion on air that the election has not ended. He said the election is resolved, and there is no acceptable alternative path. If you transgress from this company policy, you can expect to separate from this company immediately.
That includes Levine, who's the biggest thing on Fox. He was talking about constitutional law. They told him to shut up. But on his Sunday night show, he still went after the media for exploiting the violence. He claimed President Trump did not incite the violence.
So, I'm wondering what is going to happen? It seems like there's a club that meets every night. This club of tech giants, corporate America, lawyers, political operatives, Hollywood stars are all, I hate to use the word conspire, but it sure seems like that's the right word.
To silence the Barrys and Wills of the world if they can go after Judge Jeanine. She has been pulled off the air twice in the last month after she filmed her show, Fox refused to air it. They didn't approve of her content. As if she's a whack job.
Will Johnson: What she's doing? Was she cursing? Was she violent?
Barry Nussbaum: No, much worse. She was defending President Trump. That's worse than child pornography. That’s where we're at right now.
Will Johnson: You know, Barry, I have many people sending me emails saying, Will, what do we do? People send me emails saying I'm terrified for my family, for my children. What do we do? I have seen reports where they're saying that you can't say anything about the 2020 election.
You can't speak out against it. You have to say it was all open and fair. You can't say anything is wrong, like the whole China regime forcing their people, communists, North Korea, everything. But you can say that the election wasn't fair in 2016. You can still talk about that election as if it wasn't fair.
Barry Nussbaum: Let me clarify. Are you telling me that you've seen information that says you can say that Hillary Clinton got robbed in 2016, and the election was fixed? Donald Trump is not my president, and Hillary Clinton should be president? And that's kosher?
Will Johnson: Yeah, I've seen that information, just like you have. For the past four years. At what point did the mainstream media and the Democrats apologize for the fake steel dossier? At what point did the mainstream media and the Democrats apologize for taking us down this million of dollars for the Russia collusion delusion?
Which came to find out was 100 percent fraudulent? At what point? We've all seen that they put the country through so much in the past four years. But now they are saying it is all over with, and you can't say anything.
You can't question what we are telling you. Because if you question what we're telling you, we are going to destroy you. That's what they are doing right now, and it's not what they want to do. It is what they're doing right now. Anyone who speaks out against them, anyone who tells the truth, is going to get the point, Barry, to where you can't even say anything bad about the government.
Because you say something bad about the government, that means you're talking about Kamala Harris, especially if you're white. And if you do it, that means you're racist. Then they're going to start putting people up for hate crimes, hate speech.
Barry Nussbaum: What are they going to call you, Will? You're blacker than she is.
Will Johnson: She's not even black. That is the whole point. That's why they went from calling Trump supporters, white supremacists, to neo-Nazis, to domestic terrorists. Because anyone who recognizes what is happening and is standing up to this, they are demonizing us.
Saying that we're bad for society, that we are the enemy of the state. Another reason they are doing this to shut people up. Shut up, and comply. I'm going to tell you this too. I was in D.C., and I know a lot of people in D.C., there is a person named Anthony Agresto. He was there. He lives in El Paso, Texas.
He was there among a whole bunch of other people that were there. He was reporting inside the Capitol building. The FBI was at his door when he got out of his uber at his home in El Paso. They started questioning him. Today he called me when the FBI wanted him to come back to the FBI, and this was almost six hours ago.
He said I'll give you a call when I get back out. This was six hours ago. To be honest with you, I don't trust the FBI. Look what they've done to people in the past. Look what they did to General Flynn. They're setting people up. This is the highest law in the land, and they're doing this to American citizens.
People don't understand where we are. Beyond this, I don't even take the FBI credible any longer. The only reason why people do is that they have the guns, and once they take all of our guns, we most definitely won't have a choice. That's exactly what was happening. It is China all over the place.
Barry Nussbaum: We've got Charlie here from Nashville. Thanks for joining us.
Charlie: Thank you so much. Well, I want to layout a point of view, and I would conservatively say that my point of view that I'm going to build for you here in 60 seconds. It is probably is shared by five, ten to twenty- million patriots in our country.
And who knows how many veterans besides those. You know, just like you said, the FBI, the CIA, and the DOJ are completely corrupt. As a result of Obama planting all of his people before he left. Nobody thought Hillary would lose. I'm a logical person, and I'm a college grad.
I'm well-read. I've had 30 years in business, respected by my peers. I'm a thinking person, and I was in the fourth grade when JFK was assassinated. I remember that day very well. Our teacher wheeled in a black and white television in Macon, Colorado. We didn't say a word and watched Dallas the rest of the afternoon.
I woke up that day, my little mind in the fourth grade knew something wasn't right. After 9/11, I got calls from several of my friends whose brothers or sisters or friends were in the CIA, the FBI, and they told my friend who called me and said it was an inside job. I was floored. I was devastated.
The more I looked at it, and of course, now we know, obviously it was an inside job. Cheney, calling down the Jets and all that. Here's the point. Any thinking person knows for sure that this election was stolen. The work that Sydney Powell and the others have done, all the videotape, the UPS driver that drove 200,000 ballots from New York to Philadelphia.
The question is, where is the military in this? Where is the military? White hats or black hats? The intel is logical now. What happened was when Trump gave his first speech and the second speech when he was trying to calm down the crowd.
What is true is that he did not concede. He did not call Biden. He basically said he'll make the transition to the new regime, which we think, is going to be him. He told the masses to go home, please go home, be safe, go home.
That was apparently a requirement before a president enacts the Insurrection Act or martial law. He has to put the word out for all the good people to go home. He did that. He did not concede. On the other point, he had to wait until Congress did their thing to see if, in fact, they were going to confirm Biden, which they did.
Of the hundreds of Republicans, there ended up being six who actually stood up for Trump. So, all those people were, quote-unquote, "traitors," If you're a Trump patriot. I listen to smart people. I listen to people that are in the know.
I pretty much stopped watching the cable news a long time ago. I know that Bill O'Reilly is compromise. I listen to is Dr. Jerome Corsi. I listened to Robert David Steele, and I do listen to Alex Jones. However, Alex Jones has not jumped on the bandwagon of any of this.
I mean, he's not saying that the troops are in Washington, that the Insurrection Act was called, but I am connected with a dozen very smart people that are deep within the government.
Will Johnson: If I may, Alex Jones has said there is Troops, and they have called martial law in D.C. The reason why they called martial law in D.C. is because of the inauguration. A lot of stuff you're saying I've heard, a lot of this information coming at me.
People have sent this information from everywhere. A lot of this information that you're talking about is from those Q drops. I got a lot of people on the Q, and the Q has done nothing but put information up there to get people to feel a certain way. Now, everything that you're saying, I want it to be true. I'm not fighting you on it. I want it to be true.
Charlie: You know, we've been told there's a 12-foot fence around Washington, and there are troops there. I saw the videotapes of state troopers bringing in three vans of Antifa. Virginia state troopers brought in Antifa.
We know that they were people inside the Senate that are compromised. They opened the doors and let people come on in. So, all I'm saying is to a thinking person is Trump had to wait. He didn't succeed, and he had to wait until all the evidence was in. So, a logical man would think that he has done the Insurrection Act.
He's going to do that. It's the only logical thing to do. This is the largest insurrection since 1776. Why do we not think that it's been done? Don't you think it's logical that he should do the insurrection right now? Don't you think it is logical?
Will Johnson: You're right. It is logical that he should do it. The problem is that we have law and order in this country. For the past four years, they have seen all the corruption and violence, and no one has been arrested, not a single person. The 160 thousand indictments that we are heard were coming down never took place.
Charlie: Barr was a traitor. Trump was surrounded by the enemy. Just look around. I mean, he was not right. He should have had a committee of 100 business people all across the country to give him feedback. What we are seeing, Trump was right.
You went to his rallies, and you know. I'm sure he knows a lot of people, but the information never got through to him. Like, for instance, Robert David Steele is a brilliant man. If you go on his website, you'll see he has tried to get through to him.
Cynthia McKinney is two of hundreds or thousands of patriots that are God-loving, American- Loving patriots. We love this country. We want to help.
Will Johnson: I think Barry has got to jump in here. We love this country. But I have to go out because I got to do my nightly broadcast.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah. I appreciate you. Thanks. I do want to make one comment—the military works for the commander in chief. We do not have a country where the military is independent.
So, like banana republics around the world, you get control of the military, then the troops march in and surround the palace, then bingo put in their own person, or the commander of the army. Thank God we don't have that kind of government.
The military does not make and should not make independent decisions. They report to the commander and chief. Should an insurrection act be declared? Oh, boy, you have seen nothing. The backlash it is going to cause.
As Will Johnson said, there's a whole lot of bad people that need to get picked up and sent away. Whether it happens or not, honest to God, I don't know. Although I can tell you that there's a lot of people hoping for it. But it hasn't happened.
Let me talk about something else real quick. Will, you were talking a minute ago about what's going to happen is all these conglomerates are unifying to shut down conservatives. It's in Congress, and it's in the Senate, it's local governments like I said, it's every major broadcast media, most importantly and most recently, the tech giants.
You know who I'm talking about, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, and so on. Tech giants turned off Parler. Here's what's interesting. Capitalism, in its infinite genius, creates alternative paths to the same place. Since people have gotten freaked out about the messaging services in the last three days, Telegram announced today they'd added 25 million new users to their platform.
Because of what happened to Parler and Twitter, twenty-five million sign-ups. It's never been done in history. The stock market has reacted.
Will Johnson: Twenty-five million?
Barry Nussbaum: Twenty-five million sign-ups in the last three days.
Will Johnson: Which platform?
Barry Nussbaum: Telegram.
Will Johnson: I just want to make sure I heard it.
Barry Nussbaum: I might also add that Parler, having been the de-platformed by Google, Google phones, Apple phones, those are the two big tech giants that run all the phones in America. Amazon Web Services for email are off, but they filed a gazillion dollar lawsuit against all the companies.
The backlash is continuing. I don't know if you've heard of some of these banks, but I was going to mention, JPMorgan Chase, the nation's largest bank, is not allowing donations now into politics. Citigroup, the third-largest, is pausing. Goldman Sachs, the largest investment bank, because they're not happy with certain things, but here's where it gets weird.
There's an app called Stripe, which is the preferred payment processor of online merchants. So, if you buy something online, they process your credit card. They have suspended Trump and anything connected to Trump. Making it impossible for anyone to support Trump or any of his endeavors online.
They handle payments for millions of businesses. Including Shopify, and all of those have been shut down. All campaign contributions to Trump have been shut down. According to them, anyone connected to Trump is a, quote, "high-risk activity," unquote.
So, they have previously de-platform other groups that we're raising money or consciousness like Gabb. They fired them off. Yet, all of these businesses continue to support and work with platforms that have hate speech everywhere.
Will Johnson: Yep, they were calling for the assassination of President Trump. They were calling for the death of Trump supporters. None of that ever happened. You know Andy Ngo out of Portland. He is always exposing, and he is releasing a book.
There's a particular bookstore in Portland where Antifa has gone every day to shut down a bookstore so that bookstore would not sell his book. If they could get their hands on his books, they will put him in a pile and burn them.
They would literally burn them. That's what they're wanting. They want this book so that they can burn them. It reminds you of anything from the 1930s.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeh, sounds like Germany.
Will Johnson: I want to thank you so much for allowing me to come on and being with you for this hour. I got to jump over so I can do my nightly broadcast. It's been a real honor and a pleasure to be on with you.
Barry Nussbaum: For everyone before Will runs away to be more famous. Will tell people where they can find you, please.
Will Johnson: As of right now, you can find me UnitesAmericaFirst.com., but there they're attacking me at a level I've never seen before. So, right now, UnitesAmericaFirst.com.
Barry Nussbaum: God bless you. Thank you for joining us today. I'm going to stay on. I've got some more news to cover for our audience, but everybody out there says thank you to Will Johnson. We love and appreciate you, my friend.
Will Johnson: Thank you.
Barry Nussbaum: All right, let's move on. It strikes me as an almost obscene contradiction in political theory that the great murderers of the world, like, for example, Iran. Every country in the world knows they're the leading sponsor of terror in the world.
They support vicious groups all over the Middle East and elsewhere in the world. They work aggressively to kill people. Americans all over the world in uniform. All the Jews in Israel, not to mention the troops in Israel.
They're destabilizing country after country, and yet America, the supreme leader, Khamenei, still has a Twitter feed. Donald Trump, the president of the United States, doesn't have a Twitter feed. He hasn't called for death to America.
He hasn't called for death to Israel. He's not calling for assassinations, etc., but he lost his Twitter feed. Iran didn't. The Chinese can have their feeds, Cuba has it, Venezuela has it, but not Donald Trump. Doesn't that strike you as incredibly bizarre?
Yet all of these other companies have spent billions in the United States supporting Black Lives Matter. Let's talk about that for a second. All summer long, America burned. People were killed. People were brutalized. Cops were targeted, killed, and assassinated.
In spite of what you knew was happening, you also at the same time watched the completely insane media. I've seen dozens of these reports. Oh, look, the peaceful protests got a little bit rambunctious. Meanwhile, the camera pans, and three blocks of a city like Portland is burning.
Or Minneapolis, where people are looting like maniacs. Where Fifth Avenue in New York, premier shopping district of America, building after building, is being ransacked. Corporate America is sending billions to Black Lives Matter, of which none of that money has gone to blacks.
It's an insurrection organization that promotes communist ideology over capitalism. It has nothing to do with black lives. The title sounds good, but that's not where the money went. Yet, they still have donations.
They are on corporate America billboards, T-shirts, and signs in front of businesses. Their violence is OK, but the president isn't. So, the largest company in America that does database management, you've probably heard of them, it's called Salesforce.
They do everything for databases. So, in other words, names, addresses, emails, and money, it's a very, very successful company. Right? Well, they have de-platformed President Trump since January six. So, the RNC can't send out any emails.
They're going to have to switch all their data over somewhere else. That's not getting reported, is it? Nope. Facebook yesterday announced that they are going to de-platform all content that contains the phrase "Stop the steel."
Why? Because they don't agree with it. They don't want it being publicized. Facebook, as I said, is very strongly in favor of it. Just like North Korea, Venezuela, Russia, China, Iran, and elsewhere.
You can speak out all you want as long as it's a party line. So, at some point, America, when you get mad enough and demand your First Amendment, your Second Amendment, and so on.
Here's something weird. Jack Dorsey, the CEO of Twitter, has been under constant fire for his relentless attacks on President Trump because President Trump is such an evil man. He just banned COVID denial. Meaning, you can't tweet something that disputes the official numbers on COVID or disputes the vaccine's efficacy, vaccine side effects, whether or not the vaccine works on version two, three, four, or five of COVID.
Which there are that many now. You're not allowed to say things that sound hateful. Yet, according to the Lawfare project, you can be a neo-Nazi. You can question the most hideous mass murder in human history, the Holocaust.
You can say supporting things about the Holocaust, or you can say it never happened. You can promote a Nazi ideology, and you keep your Twitter account. The Lawfare project came out and said if you can't deny COVID, where a million people have died around the world. How can you promote the Holocaust where six million people died?
It's disgusting. Yet, there's an interesting backlash occurring today. World leaders are now denouncing big, tech censorship of President Trump. I'm serious. This is President Trump, banned from Twitter, banned from Facebook, banned from Pinterest, banned from Snapchat, banned from Reddit, and banned from Instagram. German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who's no Trump fan, trust me, said the banning of Trump is problematic.
Freedom of opinion is an essential right for elementary significance. Well done, Chancellor Merkel. But there's more. Her spokesperson said the fundamental right could be intervened in. But according to the law and within the framework divide defined by legislators, you cannot make a decision by the management of social media platforms to stifle free speech.
Bloomberg said yesterday there needs to be public regulation of the big online platforms. Yes, Bloomberg, there does. The French finance minister said tech giants were part of a digital oligarchy that was a threat to democracy.
I agree. The leader of the European People's Party, it's a center-right political party, echoed that and called for big tech firms to be regulated. Here's a quote from Mr. Weber, the head of the party. He said, "we cannot leave it to American big tech to decide how we can or cannot discuss politics online.
Today's mechanisms destroy the compromise, searching, and consensus-building crucial in free and democratic societies. We need a stricter regulatory approach," she said yesterday. The far-left Labor Party in Norway said big tech censorship threatens political freedom around the world.
He called the ban on Trump censorship, that's the left progressive party in Norway. You see a backlash from places you didn't expect it. The Mexican President, Manuel Lopez Obrador, said Reuters reported it was a bad sign when private companies try to censor opinion. He says censorship is like an inquisition to manage public opinion.
He said, "I don't like anybody being censored or taking away the right to post on Twitter or Facebook." Even Russia, the opposition leader Navalny said Trump's ban was an unacceptable form of censorship. It was based not on a genuine need but rather on Twitter's political preferences.
He said, "Don't tell me Trump was banned for violating Twitter rules. I get death threats here every day for many years, and Twitter doesn't ban anyone for that." Interesting, isn't it? So, the world from the left and the right is coming out to defend Trump. Not because they think Trump is right, but that they think censorship is wrong. They are correct. We need to listen to them.
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