The Shocking Plan to Destroy America!
Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. I'm Barry Nussbaum. We are honored and so happy to have back with us National security expert Clare Lopez.
Clare is the founder of Lopez Liberty, LLC. She's got a background in American foreign service. She's a national security expert. She's a former CIA big shot and we're thrilled to have her back. Hello, Clare.
Clare Lopez: Hey, Barry. Thank you very much. I'm glad to be back with you anytime.
Barry Nussbaum: I want to tell our audience that I am astounded by the theories and evidence to back your theory that you have sent to me. I consider the show we are about to do and we're going to do a follow-up after one of the most important things you and I have ever discussed and may be out of the thousand-plus shows ATP has done, this is in the top one or two percent.
You have come up with an understanding of what's happening in America that was predicted a generation ago by some really, really bad people. Everything that was written and predicted has come true. Tell us. In brief, what the heck I'm so upset about?
Clare Lopez: Well, Barry, what we're talking about was written in a book called The Naked Communist. The Naked Communist is a book that was written in 1958 by a former FBI agent named W. Cleon Skousen, from his at that point in time, decades of experience with the FBI and up against communism.
As well as his understanding of the testimony that I think he either heard or read about or took notes about in the congressional hearings earlier in the nineteen fifties by communists and former communists who came to testify as witnesses in front of the House’s un-American Activities Committee and also in the Senate, Senator Joseph McCarthy's Committee.
He put together the book because he wanted to sort of consolidate in one place for Americans to have easy access to read and understand what he had come to understand about the communist threat that was infiltrating the U.S. Government and every sector of American society.
Barry Nussbaum: Clare, let's kick it off on this segment with numbers twenty and twenty-one. Twenty is ‘Infiltrate the press, get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, and policy-making decisions.’
Number twenty-one ‘Is gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.’ Obviously, now we have social media. I think both of these have happened, haven't they?
Clare Lopez: Exactly, you know, back at the time of the founding fathers, I don't think they could possibly have foreseen the rise of the tech giants we have today and their domination of every form of media. But that's what we're looking at right now.
Those media have all been infiltrated and influenced by the hard, hard left communist Marxist ideology right here, laid out as the objective back in 1958.
Barry Nussbaum: When you add in Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, oh, my gosh, they are creating the reality, because if it's not being reported by them for 90 plus percent of the population, they don't know there is an alternative reality.
Clare Lopez: Yeah, that's right. Unfortunately. I mean, we are talking about legacy print media. We're talking about much of television, be it, you know, the old channels or the cable channels. We're talking, of course, online. You mentioned Facebook, Twitter, YouTube on and on.
These have all been taken over by communist Marxist interests, powerful interests. And there's very little that can push back against them except for in some measure, talk radio, perhaps not a lot else.
Barry Nussbaum: Number twenty-two, ‘To continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression and,’ like they said, ‘eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings and substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.’
I would include in this one number 22 all the historical statues that have come down Washington, Lincoln, Frederick Douglass, the abolitionists, anything American in our past, even if it's black people that were freeing black people or white people, that we're freeing black people.
All of them are racists. All of them need to come down and our history needs to become meaningless. Has that already happened?
Clare Lopez: That's exactly what's been happening. Terms and names like racism, white supremacy really don't mean what the dictionary says they mean anymore. They've become buzzwords in a way. But the point here of this number twenty-two and also a couple of more further down in the list, you know, including twenty-five, including some of the others.
It is a degradation of a deliberate, targeted degradation of everything that's wholesome and solid and Judeo-Christian based in our foundation to include, as you said, Barry the statues and anything that reminds people of who we are. Really who we are and where we come from. All of that has to be destroyed.
I will mention a term in German that is in German because the Communist Party of Germany back in the early 1900s termed it or coined the term ‘Aufheben der Kultur’ means destroy the culture. In modern parlance do what we say? Council culture, exactly.
Barry Nussbaum: Same thing. Twenty-four and twenty-five I think have happened. ‘Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them censorship and a violation of free speech.’
Breakdown, number twenty-five, ‘Breakdown cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, TV.’ Hey, would that be a drag queen story hour to start with?
Clare Lopez: That's one awful example, isn't it? For little tots in our local communities across America for preschoolers, this is going on in our libraries. Why do library board elections matter?
And then, you know, the other part of the curriculum that's taught in schools, the sex education, that is incredibly explicit. If it were anywhere else, it would be called pornography. But no, we're not to say that anymore because it's all okay now.
Barry Nussbaum: You know when I look at this as kind of a big picture Clare. I'm stunned that as far as I know, you're the only one yelling out into the world. Hey, guys, open your eyes. We've been taken over and subverted by a plan that started a long time ago and now it's in the schools.
I mean, you've got six-year-old kids learning to be drag queens. You're on the college campuses and the Constitution is a stupid, nonrelevant document written by racist men who are white from the 18th century and ought to be discarded.
Even the United States Congress Clare where you've got senators saying, “I don't get why we need that Constitution anymore.” Oh, my God, without that, we're not a country. We're certainly not this country anymore. What should the normal person out there do that is watching the show that ought to be freaking out right now?
Clare Lopez: Well, I first think anyone who everyone who is watching, because it's incredibly important, I think, get a copy of The Naked Communist. Look at Chapter 13: The Forty-Five Goals of Communism. Also take a look at the report, the final report of the 1776 Commission.
Get our local school boards back to promoting the Founding Fathers, our foundational principles, accurate representation of American history and culture, and civics. This is a battle that's going to be fought at the local level. Why school board elections and city council elections are so incredibly important is because that's where this is going to be.
This is where the fight is. This is how we take it back. This is how we restore our constitutional republic and restore it to a position of honor for our heroes, the founding fathers, and all who made this country great. This has to be turned around, but it can be. It will be by local citizen patriots at the local level.
But pay attention to your local electoral races and I mean school board. I mean county commissioners, I mean, city councils. The school board above all, perhaps that is where the fight has to go.
Barry Nussbaum: You know, I'm reminded as I'm listening to you, Clare going all the way back to my political science days. I went to a conservative school that, well, we learned the Constitution. What I'm thinking about right now as I listen to you is the misunderstanding that most Americans have as to why we have a constitution.
Most people think that the Constitution is to protect each other and the government from the people when in reality it's to protect the people from the abuses of the government. That is why there's a Bill of Rights and that's why the Bill of Rights was tacked on to the Constitution.
Oh, my gosh, so many of those freedoms that built this country are being stepped on, disregarded, and disrespected to the point where, well, you know, it's some ancient history from hundreds of years ago written by racists. We don't need it anymore. Clare, I think you make it very clear we need it now more than ever before.
Clare Lopez: Yeah, we absolutely do. You know, people may have thought that the Soviet Union came apart geographically in 1991, but communism did not. Communism and Marxism continue their long march through the institutions and have wreaked horrific destruction. But we can get it back. But it starts at the local level with parents, with citizen patriots.
Barry Nussbaum: Well said, Clare. Where can people find out about you?
Clare Lopez: Well, I do have a regular blog at Newsmax.com. I also post my writing and my videos at Citizens Commission on National Security, at Brannon Houses World View Weekend, of course, the United West and American Truth Project. I also am online on social media at Clare M Lopez, on Twitter, Facebook, Paley, and Telegram.
Barry Nussbaum: So far that's a lot, I don't know how you sleep. Thanks for coming on today. We sure appreciate it. I want to remind everybody out there that hasn't yet subscribed, sign up for our text message alert system, please.
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