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Inauguration Eve with Katie and Barry



Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP Radio. I’m Barry Nussbaum. We have so much to talk about today. Let’s just go for it.

We have a very special guest. Our ATP Truth Ambassador Katie Hopkins is with us today. Katie has flown from the UK to Washington, D.C., to be a witness to what’s going on in D.C. this week. Katie, are you there?

Katie Hopkins: I am, and I think you can hear what’s in the background for me as I sit here in Chinatown. The helicopters buzzing overhead are getting louder and louder.

Of course, we’re just waiting for the Biden/Harris Event at the Lincoln Memorial. A sort of memorial tonight for the victims of COVID. So, the skies around D.C. right now are just filled with the noise of helicopters, which I’m assuming is additional security for that memorial event.

Barry Nussbaum: Wow. Maybe that’s one of the events that the incoming administration will allow people to come to; neither one of them, president-elect or vice president-elect, seems to be familiar with speaking in front of large crowds.

They came through a campaign that was run from the basement in Delaware. A whole lot of virtual appearances in front of half a dozen or so handpicked people sitting in chairs with circles around them.

Let’s see how they operate when there’s no monitor to read from, no talking points on a computer screen, and you have to talk to real people in real-time, and in-person.

Katie Hopkins: Well, Barry funny enough, or maybe not so funny enough,  just watching the live feed as we speak as I sat here listening to the helicopters. There were maybe four or five people at the Lincoln Memorial. S

o again, they will not be speaking to anybody. There are no people there. If I try to get in, as I did this morning, you can not get near it. There is only their two-member staff or security.

There are no people at the Lincoln Memorial. Not a soul in sight. It’s very sad. It is a sad image to see. It will just be Biden and Harris again. No one is there to hear them.

Barry Nussbaum: It’s like a T.V. show where you zoom in on the people on the set. It looks like it’s live, it’s real, and it’s exciting.  But if the cameraman is not part of the team, he happens to want to report the news.

He pans left or right to show who’s there, nobody. Wow, that’s got to be embarrassing. It sure ruins the narrative, doesn’t it, Katie?

Katie Hopkins: Oh, absolutely. That’s what we’re seeing. There is nobody at the Lincoln Memorial. There is going to be a camera shot, I’m assuming, of Biden. Then you’ve got the helicopter eye-level shots of the mall that they’ve had to fill with flags because there are no people to put on the mall.

They’ve used fifty-six bands of light, but there is no one to hear them, no one to watch, and no one allowed near the place. It’s very surreal and very bizarre. The question is, what’s the point of standing at the Lincoln Memorial if no one else is allowed to be there?

Barry Nussbaum: I think the point is clear to me- you’re creating a narrative that is not real. But, somebody in the campaign, the office, or the P.R. office came up with the concoctions of, geez, what would look good on a T.V. screen?

What would look good on a soundbite? If we make sure that there are no witnesses, nobody can tell the truth of what’s out there.  This is a great story. So, Katie, tell our listeners what the heck happened today with you and Al Jazeera.

For those who don’t know, Al Jazeera is the propaganda international television network of the radical Arabs in the world. It is funded by the billionaires in Qatar.

They broadcast their special news interpretation from everywhere on the planet, and they don’t like us very much, Katie. Tell us what happened.

Katie Hopkins: That’s right, Barry. They don’t like me very much either. Coming from the UK, where we are rapidly becoming a Muslim majority country. Al-Jazeera has significant audience impact and funding.

I also know that the channel, for example, is largely celebrated when things happened, like when Notre Dame burned down. So, that’s the kind of back story. Today, I’m delivering the truth for ATP on the ground here in D.C.

It’s the reason I’m here. I’m just trying to show things as I see them. What I see is a lot of camera crews manipulating D.C. to make it look a lot more dramatic than it is. Don’t get me wrong. This is a militarized zone.

There are twenty-five thousand National Guard. When I came down the elevator to my hotel foyer this morning in the lobby, there were probably one hundred National Guard individuals there. Very lovely individuals. D.C. is locked down.

But what all of these lazy journalists are doing is finding a military truck or vehicle. They are finding National Guardsmen or women with their weapons, and they are stationing themselves right in front of that.

So, it looks as dramatic as it can, it looks like they are under immediate threat, and Al Jazeera was doing exactly that. It’s very lazy journalism. It’s not delivering the truth of D.C., which is, it is largely empty.

There’s nobody else here, and you can walk around, it’s no problem at all. It’s not frightening in any way. I approached Al-Jazeera. I showed and demonstrated how they’ve set up their shop to give a certain impression when the opposite is true.

Al Jazeera was not impressed that I highlighted the frauds they’re trying to sell to their viewers. They gave me a shove out of the way. They shoved me repeatedly. They called me a racist because I identified myself as being British.

They tried to get the National Guard to come and have me removed. Then they threatened to call 911. All because a little lady, myself, stood with her phone, simply demonstrating what they were trying to show versus the reality.

I think that that’s a good example of how it is when we’re trying to tell the truth today. That is, you are intimidated, you are threatened, and people try to have you arrested just for showing how it is.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, I’ve got to tell you, I saw the video earlier today. We can’t show it on the radio, but we will put it out today on ATP Report. You’re a very brave lady, and these are very aggressive Arab guys who called you names.

I guess they’re watching American liberal media because the buzz word crazy, and then the buzz word racist was used repeatedly while you’re filming them. Against you for telling the story that they’re making up a story. As a result, you, Katie Hopkins, are a crazy lady and a racist. Delightful fake news on camera, documented by you.

Katie Hopkins: I know. It is such a strange thing. I’m walking down the street dressed very normally. I’m not dressed in a vicious manner at all, and I’ve got my sneakers on. I’ve just been to Wal-Mart to pick up a couple of things.

That’s how normal life is in D.C. There are still people trying to go about their daily business. Then you’re standing there trying to demonstrate that the media are perpetuating a myth.

That it is utterly terrifying here that those white terrorists are everywhere. I’m just highlighting that is not true. They feel the need to have physical violence and verbal violence, push me around and try to get the guards to come over.

I suppose what’s joyful is the National Guard just looked over and completely ignored them. It doesn’t matter to me, particularly what they do to me. I think it’s really useful for ATP in our job that you and your team are trying to provide, giving your listener and your viewer another angle.

It’s true, and it’s just showing it plainly. Let people make their own opinion. It’s what journalism was supposed to be before everything becomes just someone’s opinion back in the studio.

Barry Nussbaum: Well said, and you’re right. That’s what ATP is about, American Truth Project, bringing the truth to the people to make their own decisions. So, let’s dive in. I’ve got about a gazillion subjects in no specific order. Let’s chat about it, shall we?

To begin with, the leader of the Republican Party in the Senate is Mitch McConnell. The leader of the Republican Party in the House, Kevin McCarthy. Here’s a shocker.

They are both going to skip President Trump’s departure ceremony tomorrow. Not a joke, and instead, they’re going to go to preinaugural Catholic Church service with Joe Biden. Why and what do you make of that?

Katie Hopkins: Oh, you probably feel it more intensely than even I do, because as I always acknowledge, I’m a foreigner, an outsider, and a respectful one at that. It’s so galling because we know, don’t we, that if Trump had been successful, the election had run how we think it probably went, and Trump had been elected for another four years.

Republicans up and down the ticket, Republicans all over the place would be groveling in front of Trump, trying to secure the very best for themselves. Instead, they see that their political and financial fortunes now lie with Biden.

They are willing to be disrespectful in this last act of the Trump presidency. It drives me crazy. Where is loyalty? Where is moral courage? Where is the sense of fiber or respect for the people that elected those Republicans into office?

Surely you stay with your leader until the end. That would be what I was brought up with at the military academy. That’s what you get schooled at as a kid. This is duplicitousness, and it’s just hard to stomach. I think.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah. To make matters worse, neither of these guys have had much of a realistic interpretation of the second circus, which they call in the House, the impeachment, and haven’t quite decided where they stand.

Should there be a trial? Should Trump be removed? I’m shocked nobody seems to think that it’s a charade, and they ought to call it what it is. These are the leaders of the party in the House and the Senate. Frankly, from my perspective, I’m disappointed.

They’re not skipping Trump’s departure to be at the inauguration. They’re going to church, and it’s Wednesday. It’s not like it’s a religious thing. They’re showing their loyalty to the new President, and they’re showing their disloyalty to the departing President. So, I don’t get it.

Katie Hopkins: Yes. I think that’s exactly right. I also think there are two separate things out there. I think they are easily forgotten. The nation and the media circus around Trump have made it all about one man. There are still two separate things.

One is Trump, and one is the office of President. I think it’s the office of the President that’s being left in the morning and it’s to that office, that one should accord respect.

That seems to me where those leaders, I say that in the loosest possible sense, should accord respect to the office of President right up until the point that he is no longer President, like you say, it’s almost like they’re hiding in the church.

It’s this idea of the kind of baptism of oneself in the fountain of Biden. To absolve one of one sin, that’s the kind of thing that’s being played out here. I also think at a personal level, loving Trump as I do, seeing this guy is so cute with his children and his grandchildren. He’s just a sweet pea, really at heart.

I think behind the tough guy it’s got to be a lonely road he is walking now. I mean, how he looks in his tomorrow and the day after tomorrow and faces it still, I have no idea. The disloyalty has got to be impacting him somewhere. I’m very sorry for that as well.

Barry Nussbaum: As am I. Let’s change the subject a second. We talked about this before, and while we were getting ready to come on the radio, I did some more research on it. Joe Biden has promised that, as soon as he gets inaugurated tomorrow, he will work very quickly on federal guidance to revoke what Trump implemented by executive order.

These would-be men’s and women’s athletics and all that it relates to, in a nutshell. The announcement of who will be Undersecretary of HHS, Health and Human Services have shocked many people who were supportive of President Trump’s policies.

There’s this person in Pennsylvania named Rachel Levine. The first nationally recognized transgender state officer is now going to be head of the department within HHS. They make certain determinations that are going to have a profound impact on collegiate sports as an example.

The policy that they say is going to come out is going to revoke what Trump did. Which was, if you’re a biological female, you can do sports, you go to the women’s locker room, you go to the women’s bathroom. If you’re a biological male and you want to participate in sports, and it’s a ported university with federal funds, the federal government can get involved, you go to the men’s team.

You go to the men’s locker room; you go to the men’s bathroom. Now, from what I’m reading Rachel Levine is coming from Pennsylvania, where she is Undersecretary of HHS.

The Undersecretary of HHS on a national level is going to implement this policy that everything’s going to change. So, if you want to run track, your name is Dave, and you’ve decided that you want to be referred to now as, say, Bonnie.

You self-identify as Bonnie. You can be in track and field, wrestling, tennis, or whatever the sport. Get this. I know you’re going to love this as the mother of a daughter, as I am the father of a daughter.

That means that Bruce, who is now a Bonnie, can shower in the same locker room with your daughter or my daughter if they happen to be on the team. For me, that’s unsettling. How do you react to that?

Katie Hopkins: Part of me wonders, and I say this because I’ve got children. I don’t know if it’s a phrase used often in America but are they on the wind-up?

Are they saying all of this stuff just to be deliberately as antagonistic, and as controversial as they can possibly be? I feel a bit like someone sat in a room and said, what’s the top 10 list of things that we could do on day one that will the most annoying middle America/MEGA America/ the other side.

Top on that list was a trans individual in assistant health, and let’s reverse all the policies around trans that made mothers and fathers feel safer about their kids. Then whatever else we’re going to see. It’s just abhorrent.

This is my personal view, and I feel free to explore it here. Even when I look visually at this inverted Rachel individual, my skin crawls. I can’t bear that we’re supposed to address this thing as she.

She would be in charge of deciding that my children, my young daughter, could end up in a bathroom with a male. Someone who could be a predatory male.  Someone who could be there specifically to attack my child.

I mean, it’s just disgusting. It’s morally abhorrent. It’s a fast descent into the madness. Let alone before we even talk about sports, where you’re taking away fairness. If the left, the Democrats, are supposed to be about fairness, how on earth is it fair that some muscular male now calling himself Florence can run against any of our girls?

I mean, it is just vileness. I do wonder. Barry, do you think they just came up with a list of what are the worst things we could do? Okay, let’s do them.

Barry Nussbaum: I’m hesitating because I honestly don’t know if this is something they believe. As if it makes some sort of logical sense in some twisted view of how the world should be or is. You know, I was thinking the other day, I was in Target.

In the Target near my house there are the men’s restrooms and the women’s restrooms. I walked past the women’s restroom to go into the men’s, and there was a father who walked his daughter, maybe about eight years old, to the door of the women’s restroom. He said, “Honey, I’ll be right here waiting for you.”

She said, “Okay, Dad.” She went in, and he stood there. I said, “Hi,” and he said, “Hi”. When I came out, he was still standing there. About a second later, the daughter came out, he put his arm around her, and they went back to shopping.

He’s a good dad. In his mind, he just wanted to make sure everything was okay as he should as a parent. He didn’t want to take her into the men’s room. He couldn’t go into the woman’s room. You know what? I’m fine with all of that.

But if I was that dad and my little girl were going into the restroom, and right after that little girl, a guy as big as that guy walked in, and that guy self identifies as Florence. I would lose my; you know what, with good reason.

A parent’s responsibility is to protect their children. That’s the first job of a parent. If you are so concerned, as you should be, that a six-foot, two-hundred-pound man just walked into the restroom after your nine-year-old girl.

You should be upset. I don’t care about how that person self-identifies. I honestly don’t care. At the same time, I’m not going to make somebody wrong for self-identifying as whatever. I mean, there are all these stories all over YouTube.

This person self identifies as a deer, and this person self identifies as a giraffe. I’m not making this up. The videos are out there. There are people that do all kinds of crazy stuff.

I have a problem when they take their crazy stuff, and they want my family to be subject to their interpretation of the world that’s, well, not compatible with mine. What do you think?

Katie Hopkins: I think that’s right. There’s no chance. If I’m in America and this is all changing, I don’t care what age they are. I’ll be going in with them.

I’ll be sending someone in with them, or I’ll be standing at the door you use to enter the bathroom area. I’ll be standing there with that door open. That’s what happens. Policies like this mean that what would normally be a normal interaction, the way we operate in society, has to change.

Mothers and fathers have to become the police because we’re worried about the safety of our children. It’s craziness. I know, but it’s a real truth. We have stories.

I don’t think I need to go into the explicit details of what happens. Because Trans individuals, male prisoners are allowed to decide they identify as female.

Once they’ve been prosecuted and imprisoned, they are now put into the female wings of prisons in the UK. Of course, you know what happens next. Then we have to use the term her when relating to genitals and their manhood.

We have to use the pronoun her, this, or that. This is the level of madness to which we rapidly descend. As an outsider, Barry as well, the sadness of this is that I always look to America to be somewhere that I hold on to for hope.

My country’s been going down a dark path for a long time. America under Trump was somewhere for us to look to that was sane, had reasonable rules, and a respect for law and order.

Now to see that go from America, possibly, for the next two or four years. That is a very dark moment as well. Who do we look to for hope?

Barry Nussbaum: Yep. I agree. There is even a corollary issue. That is the following. I am familiar with many people, male and female. By the time they got to the University, they had been training in X, Y, Z sport for 10, 15 years.

Many of them worked their whole lives at it. They go to school. They do their sport, and they sleep. That’s all the time there is if you’re going to be good at something. Golf, tennis, track and field, wrestling, or whatever the sport.

If you go to college, or even high school, you’re very good at your sport. You happen to be female, I mean biologically female, and you’re doing a great job at your sport.

You’re excelling. Let’s pick a sport that has strengths involved in it. Like sprinting, javelin or shot-put, and there’s somebody next to you that has massive amounts of testosterone.

Because he’s a guy biologically, more muscle, thicker muscle density, more bone mass, more overall strength, more endurance, and I’m not being sexist. It’s biological. Men are stronger than women, and they are better, stronger athletes as a result.

This is why historically, over time, throughout all of mankind’s history. Sorry for using such a banned term. I apologize, Nancy Pelosi. The sexes don’t compete against each other because it’s not fair. Look, I’m a decent golfer against guys.

Against girls, it’s not much of a competition. Because I can hit the ball 50 yards farther, that is not even a strength sport. When you get into the strength sports, the dominance is worse.

So, how would you feel as a female athlete, Katie, that you finally made it to the top of your sport, and you are throwing the javelin at the University, and Bruce, who’s now Florence, is sitting next to you in the warm-ups, 50 pounds heavier with muscle mass, 50 percent more defined?

Katie Hopkins: Yeah, it makes you feel that you’d want just to weep. I have been involved in a few of these epic battles before on Twitter before I was removed from that platform.

We had exactly this in the female cycling. I think it was indoor cycling championships. A brilliant British cyclist, I love her. She was there on the podium, but of course, she was second.

Because of a trans athlete, I also believe has the name of Rachel. Rachel must be a popular name for men who now want to be a woman. Rachel was on the podium and had won the event.

Unsurprisingly, given she is a man. Of course, when you look at the visual, we all know what a podium looks like with first, second, and third.

You expect to see these beautiful athletes on there looking fantastic. Well, what you saw was two lovely cyclist ladies looking amazing. But then this huge Goliath of an individual, a man now called Rachel, who had won.

Nothing about it added up. Not the visual of the muscular physique, not from an equitable or equality perspective. It didn’t add up. Then even in an emotional reading of that image to the little face of the lady who came second, whom I love.

Knowing that she hadn’t come second, of course, she had first stolen from her. At what would have been possibly the one moment, as you know, Barry, there’s a very narrow window where you can be the world champion.

She had that stolen from her by a man. Maybe you can answer this, Barry. Why do men think it’s okay to do this to women? What part of a man thinks, I know, I can win if I beat women?

What goes on in a male psyche to think, I know I can be world champion if I pretend to be female today? What happens there?

Barry Nussbaum: I’m not a psychologist, and I don’t know the psychology mentally of what goes into that thought process. As I said, I don’t care what somebody self-identifies as, and I don’t care.

I’m very libertarian in that. As long as that person, male, female, deer, giraffe, whatever the self-identification is, it’s fine, I don’t care, doesn’t impose their interpretation of biology on others.

I don’t want people that have different parts in a bathroom with people that want and expect privacy. I don’t want people with different parts competing on what is interpreted as a level playing field, even though somebody has a distinct, overwhelming physiological advantage because of their native biology.

I just don’t think it’s fair, period. I was thrilled when Trump changed it. I’m horrified within a day or two. It’s going to be changed back. It will destroy the level playing field in sports and, maybe more importantly, because it will affect more people the privacy issue at every Target, every other store, restaurant, and public restroom in the U.S., will be forever weird.

I’m not comfortable with it. Let’s go to our next segment. You touched a minute ago, Katie, on Twitter not liking you. They don’t like a whole lot of people. You are one of the first, but now you’re in some very good company.

Your brand just got locked out. I’m referring to Marjorie Taylor Green. She’s the congresswoman from Georgia. They locked her out of Twitter for multiple violations of the civic integrity policy.

Apparently, the civic integrity policy, in this case, was because she had the audacity to say, “I’m not sure the election was fair. Let’s investigate”. To Twitter, that’s one step removed from anarchy, and bam, you’re out. Tell us about your new friend, Marjorie Taylor Green.

Katie Hopkins: Yes. So, having been kicked off Twitter in the UK, or at least my account is based in the UK, I was kicked off shortly after Trump retweeted me four or five times.

That was enough for them to say, “Right, she’s got to go, 1.2 Million followers, we’ve got to get rid of her.” So, it’s quite nice now to have more company on the ban list, including Trump, and including others, like you say, Marjorie Taylor Green.

I was with Marjorie just last week in her office and with her staff. Her head of communications saw me passing by to speak to someone else and grabbed me and said, “Oh, you must come and see Marjorie. She loves what you guys do.”

So, ATP is definitely making inroads. People are noticing what we’re doing. I went to see her. She is a pocket rocket, an absolute firebrand. She is one of us, and she’s more grassroots than grassroots. She is the woman I would expect to bump into in Walgreen’s shopping for her kids, doing some chores, sorting errands, running past you in her sneakers, and her hair tied up.

She’s that woman. She’s so true to the Trump supporters that I know, and I love. Those I meet out on the ground. That feels like strength. We all knew it with Trump because he wasn’t a politician. I mean, in the most respectful way to Marjorie, she’s not a politician.

She’s a woman’s woman and a man’s man. She’s handy with her weapon, she is handy with her voice, and she is handy physically. So, she’s an absolute gift to our side. I think she could care less if Twitter removed her.

It would incentivize her to keep doing what she does and become louder than before. I see her active Gab. I know she’ll be active on Parler. I know for certain Marjorie Taylor Green is not a voice that will be silenced any time soon.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, it’s not just going to be her. As you know, Project Veritas sent in an operative who got a recording of Twitter’s CEO, Jack Dorsey, saying, I’m going to read you the quote, “We know we are focused on one account right now,” referring to Trump’s account that he had just banned.

“But this is going to be much bigger than just one account. It’s going to go on for much longer than just this day, this week, the next few weeks, and will go on beyond the inauguration.”

He is warning the public that he plans to have his platform, Twitter, close down the accounts of the people they disagree with; in my mind, that makes him a publisher. Not an open platform. He ought to have his immunity revoked. What do you think?

Katie Hopkins: Well, I completely agree with you. I take some joy in the fact that that is what we’re going to see, and what we see at the moment is the Twitter share price plummeting.

They have gone into this sort of mode where Jack believes he’s the emperor. He is the overseer of it all, the master of all he surveys. He has everybody desperate to use his platform. But I think we are going to see the emperor hasn’t got that many clothes.

People were on Twitter to see what Trump had to say. People were on Twitter because they cared about a few other voices and what they had to say. As those voices depart, people are not that interested anymore. It takes away the incentive to be on Twitter, and of course, at a certain demographic, Twitter is completely irrelevant.

Ask any under 20-year-old, and they’ll say it’s a platform for the oldies. So, I think the life expectancy for Twitter is time-bound. I think we’re going to see the share price fall, which will be glorious.

One of the interesting examples was that WhatsApp is going to start sharing their data with Facebook. Because of the massive flight of users from WhatsApp to Signal they decided to hold back on that new policy.

They were frightened by the sheer loss in the user base that they had. I think we’re about to teach Twitter a lesson. In a way, the more people they remove, the faster, the quicker we will migrate to other platforms.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, you mentioned WhatsApp, and they changed their terms and conditions. WhatsApp became a monster platform because it’s encrypted.

They don’t data mine. Who you talk to or when you talk to them, where you call them from, and so on it was never, ever shared with the platform. They changed it.

They are owned by Facebook. It’s a Zuckerberg company. They changed, as you said, the terms of service so they could get all your data. Who you’re talking to and when you’re talking to them, where you’re located, where you make your calls from, and where your phone is?

All the big brother stuff that people don’t want to share with others. What happened? The uproar was so huge that they backed off and said they’re not going to do it in January, but they will do it in March.

By the time March gets here, you may see a flight from WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, and others. Why? Because the consumers are voting by where they use services and rightly so.

Katie Hopkins: Absolutely. I think that’s a good thing.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, let’s talk about one more thing before we leave the subject of Marjorie. She announced last week that she is filing articles of impeachment on the House floor against Joe Biden within a week of him taking office. Is this going to happen?

Katie Hopkins: Oh, my goodness. Isn’t she just a dream? She knows how to keep coming at them and give them some of their own medicine.  She says she’s going to file these articles of impeachment to remove him from office because of the abuse of power.

She said that she wants to remove him because we can’t have the office of President so easily bought off by a foreign government. So, whatever comes of that, even if it’s nothing, she is flagging too, MEGA, at least, or for America First.

For people who believe in America First. She’s flagging to people, listen, this fight is not over. We’re not all lying down and taking it. We are not all going to take a knee to Joe Biden as other Republicans seem to be.

That’s part of the joy. That we know that the Freedom Caucus, particularly Gohmert, Taylor Green, Matt Gates, and others, are still fighting the good fight. They have put their heads up high above the parapet. I can’t imagine how uncomfortable their lives are being made right now. I can’t imagine it’s a very friendly place for them, up there on Capitol Hill.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, let’s talk about that. We’ve got a question from a listener. Do you think they will try and impeach Marjorie? You know, there are two ways that could happen. The first way is the House does it, which is extremely rare.

I would put nothing past Nancy Pelosi. In her extremism to punish the crazies that think Donald Trump was a decent president or having the audacity to be Republicans in her House.

It could come from the voters in several years, voting her out of office. I think the listener is talking about the fact that pro-Trump conservatives in the House and the Senate may face removal from office, threats from their contemporaries. I find that despicable. What do you think?

Katie Hopkins: Yeah, and Margaret was quite clear about this when I met her. So, this was her third day in the office. She and her team, who I sat with, discussed that they now feel they would be ousted.

That the people they work amongst and supposedly with are trying to oust them from office already. They will take two routes to try and do that. One route will be this idea of insurrection.

So, pursuing the idea that people like Margaret Green were directly responsible for the attack on the Capitol building. Therefore, under that, they can be removed. The second, and this seems to be the route that feels more Pelosi to me.

They want to try and get her for some sort of infringement of rules. Of course, as any congressman would know much better than I, one of the most difficult things about being a congressperson, as I understand it, is trying to keep within all the rules.

There are so many of them. Someone like Marjorie, because she’s a free-spirited individual, doesn’t want to wear a face mask, nor does she want to go through the scanner they put it, nor does she want to do this or that.

They are trying to come for her on infringement of basic rules. So, they are on their guard. They are on the watch. But she believes they will try and oust her before she even gets to the end of her first few months in office.

When she had come back from the canteen, someone was not just unkind, but she was treated with absolute hostility. Wherever she goes inside the Capitol building, even into the canteen. That is not an easy position to try and do your work.

Barry Nussbaum: That’s horrible. I’ve been in the Capital a number of times with both senators and representatives. The Republicans and the Democrats, when I was there, were respectful of each other. They chatted each other up.

They might have had grossly different political viewpoints on spending, social programs, the Defense Department, and war. You name it. There are a zillion issues. But they were colleagues, they were respectful, and they would have lunch together.

That seems to be historically the last century. Now, if you are on the other side of the line, you’re the bad guy, and you’re the devil. This poor girl has been in office three days, and they’re already talking about removing her.

Because she had the audacity to exercise her rights to say constitutionally, let’s take a look at the election. In every election of the last decade or two, when the Republicans won, the Democrats stood up and said, “I’d like to question it.”

When the Democrats won, the Republicans said, “I’d like to question it.” It’s expected, they do it every four years. But now, it’s a crime against humanity? Is that crazy to you, Katie?

Katie Hopkins: It’s so crazy, isn’t it? I think you’re right. I was thinking about Marjorie’s office. The weird thing about it is her office. She’s been in the office for three days when I was there.

They have not unpacked. The boxes are piled high. Same with Louie Gohmert’s office. Boxes are everywhere. So, Marjorie is there with her team, and no one’s unpacked properly.

They haven’t settled in; they haven’t got their feet under the table, as we would say. Yet they’re already having direct hostility against them in the canteen. They know that Pelosi is trying to work out which rule they can get them on to get them kicked out.

That’s before they have even unpacked their office. Ridiculous, and to your story of the Democrats and Republicans historically getting along. Down the road, where everyone has to sit outside at minus two to drink a beer.

I don’t see the pleasure in it, but I’m British, so I’m obliged to. I bumped into the Chief of Staff for the gentleman next door to Louie Gohmert. I was telling him I’m a massive fan of Louie Gohmert.

He was saying, “Ooh, yes, Louie. He cooks ribs in his office, sometimes in the Capitol building.” He goes next door and gives them to the Chief of Staff or one of the Democrat congressmen because that’s the relationship they had.

Friendship, they’re all working in the same place, even if they’re on different sides. I think you’re exactly right. That is over, and the hostility is real. You are no longer allowed to be friends with or talk to anybody from the Trump administration.

I think we’re seeing that witch hunt extends to other members of staff as well. We were seeing people in the media saying we will never employ anybody that was favorable to Trump. Those people are now unemployable.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, isn’t that true? Katie, there’s a question for you from a listener. She asks Katie, do you feel any different coming to America this time around after the election? You were here before, and now you’re hereafter. What do you think?

Katie Hopkins: Thank you for that question. I was here on the road three months following the Trump campaign. I was moving with the MEGA movement and also with our opposition.

I was spending time in Minnesota, George Floyd, and other places to understand properly. To the best of my ability, where we were at was this power when I was here last time. It was almost like you could plug into it.

This vibrating mass of people who, almost by sheer will alone, were going to put Trump back in power, I was with them, and it felt like there might be fraud, there would be fraud.

There were all of these mail-in ballots. But somehow, our win was going to be big enough. I believed that, and I still believe that. That our win was going to be bigger than the fraud,  there was always this sense of, together we were going to prevail.

Two days before the election, I left feeling fairly confident that we were going to prevail. So, to come back now and see everybody broken-hearted. Believe me. I’m all one for being the cheerleader, the positive, getting back out there and fighting the good fight.

I feel the pain here. In the empty streets of D.C., the emptiness hit. The last time I was in Harry’s bar, we were in Trump International. I was here with Brandon Stracke rallying for the walkaway movement. It was so joyous.

Even if you weren’t a Trump supporter, it was joyous. Now it’s quiet. There is no one around, just the military. The only conduit to the President who’s going to be foisted onto America is the media. They are willing to spin this and just spoon feed it to everybody willing to watch.

That’s what we’ve just seen at the Lincoln Memorial. Biden didn’t even speak. Kamala Harris was the one that said a few words. It is a visual presentation, like the fireworks, so that the media has something to look at; otherwise, there’s nothing at all.

There’s no one here. The President is a frail old man, and it feels more and more like this is all just a facade. So, yeah, night and day from being here a few months ago to being here now.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, tremendous difference, I’m sure. Let’s switch topics a little bit. Israel is the most vaccinated country on earth for COVID. They have put out something like two-million vaccines, and the country has less than eight million people.

So, in comparison to the United States, there are about a hundred times where the U.S. is. I get the updates constantly. My children live there. Nachman Ash said today that the Pfizer vaccine they are using in Israel is much less effective than they thought it would be.

Between the first dose and the second dose the efficacy is lower than Pfizer’s represented it to the country of Israel. Which means that he’s not certain that the vaccines will protect against mutated variants of coronavirus. Now, coronavirus is a flu.

It’s a bad one. Various reports say there are up to five mutations. The vaccines distributed worldwide from Pfizer, Materne, Johnson & Johnson, and AstraZeneca is coming out in the next couple of days.

Well, we’re all formulated on a super-duper rush basis for the variation, number one. Israel is now saying by the time you get to the mutated strains. They don’t even know if the vaccine is working. They are the most vaccinated country on earth. If anyone should know, they should.

Does that make you want to go out and get this vaccine tomorrow? If so, are you going to get version one or wait for version two, three, four, or five? Pick one, right?

Katie Hopkins: Exactly. I think I choose none of the above. I will say this, and this is separate from the vaccination. Israel is epic at stuff. That sounds like quite a basic thing to say, but I’ve always felt this way.

In fact, I was nearly removed from my radio show. I was eventually removed by Ofcom, the regulator of broadcast media in the UK, because I was too pro-Israeli. That wasn’t allowed.

So, I was investigated. Basically, when Israel decides to do something, it gets it done. Netanyahu writes we need to build a wall, he built a great big wall, tall enough so that if you try and jump off, it breaks your legs.

Not only does he build the wall above ground, but he builds the wall below ground. So, no one can tunnel under it either. We need a security system. The Iron Dome system comes in perfectly fantastic. He decides you need to have vaccines. Vaccines 24/7.

The record-breaking world number of vaccines delivered in a certain number of days. Israel knows how to get stuff done. It does. I love Israel for that. As for the vaccine, not a chance. We have vaccine passports now coming into the UK inevitably.

I was reading this morning. Norway is a small country with a small population of people who’ve been vaccinated so far, which is not high; 25 elderly people have died within a couple of days of being given the vaccination. I think not for me and certainly not for my parents, hopefully either.

But then,  other people just love the vaccination. Other people see being given the vaccine as being given a gift. You see them on the media being so grateful and thankful that they’ve been one of the chosen people to be given the vaccine.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, I’ve got many friends, contemporaries of my age and older, that are very nervous. They should be against COVID if you have pre-existing conditions like heart, lungs, blood pressure, or asthma.

Under those circumstances, if you’ve got something serious, like cancer, COVID can kill you. Your immune system is compromised. But as a non-Dr. Nonscientist, just a regular person, it strikes me as weird. If they say the disease is changing and all the research was on the first disease.

Now we’re up to the disease number five variant. Nobody knows whether the vaccine is working. The head of the most successful vaccine program on planet earth says he doesn’t even know if it works, and they’ve administered more vaccines than any other country on earth.

It’s not even close. We can leave it there because we just don’t know. But I’m putting it out there for our viewers worldwide to listen and think for themselves. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. It doesn’t sound like it makes a lot of sense to you either. Agreed?

Katie Hopkins: Yeah, absolutely.

Barry Nussbaum: Okay, I picked up this story over the last couple of days. I’d like to mention it as something to think about as people digest your comments from previously, Katie. About Jack Dorsey, who is the founder and chief dictator at Twitter.

In the United States, there is a grassroots civil rights movement called End Jew-Hatred. What they do is try to get people not to promote hating Jews. Now, what does it have to do with Twitter, you might be asking? Twitter has banned zillions of conservative Republicans.

They are starting with the President of the United States, numerous House members, the Senate, opinion leaders of all types because they are conservative, and their viewpoint is not within the Twitter approval list.

Yet, Jack Dorsey makes it a policy platform allowing the most vicious, the most hated you can imagine being placed thousands of times an hour from Twitter users all over the world.

For example, the most documented major crime in the history of planet earth is the Holocaust. Why is it so documented? Well, primarily because of the Germans who administered the systematic murder of six million Jews, we’re fanatical record keepers.

Their records survived. Every name, where they were put to death, how they were rounded up, and their property that was taken away. Who did it, and so on. They self-documented because they’re obsessive documenters of what they did.

And yet, Jack Dorsey allows the Holocaust to be debated on his platform. As if you’re debating something worth debating. From my perspective, as someone logical and Jewish educated, it’s like debating whether or not the sun is there. Or the world is round, or is there twenty-four hours in a day.

Certain things are accepted as fact. If you question them, you’re generally looked at as an imbecile. Jack Dorsey thinks that’s a debate. That’s okay? So, there are Holocaust posts, thousands of them. I’ll read you a few.

“The Holocaust is fake and gay.” That was approved. “Joe Biden’s win is as fake as the Holocaust.” That was approved. “The Holocaust is fake to distract us from the truth.” That was approved. “Six-million Jews did not die.” That was approved.

So, Brooke Goldstein, the executive director of this organization, has been calling this to the attention of Jack Dorsey. Telling him, Jack Dorsey, it’s time for you to end Holocaust denial and the Jew-hatred on Twitter.

His response. Crickets. But if you ask him and demand that Trump be gone or Marjorie Taylor Green, they’re horrible people. Bam, they’re banned. Katie Hopkins, bam, she’s banned. I have thousands of similar stories. Is Twitter as bad in your mind as they are in mine?

Katie Hopkins: I completely see where you’re going with this.  It just screams in your face. The hideousness of what able people write. The hideousness that it’s allowed on the platform.

The vile idea that this is allowed to be perpetuated. Then when you extrapolate that out, it comes off of social media and into real life. So, I hold Twitter and other places accountable for allowing this sort of stuff to fester.

In the UK, for example, where we have a Muslim majority in the most densely populated parts of London. We have a Muslim Mayor. We have power sitting in the hands of Muslim individuals. It means that when you end up with a Labor government, our kind of Democrats, we ended up with Jeremy Corbyn, who’s effectively a Bernie Saunders of the left.

You end up with anti-Semitism in real life, on the streets. Jewish people are being attacked for walking down the streets. My French Jewish friends are being forced out of Paris. It transmits itself from social media. Where it festers and perpetuates itself into real lives.

That’s why on the night of the election in the UK in December 2019, my Jewish friends had bags packed by the door because they were so afraid of Jeremy Corbyn getting in and the rapid descent of the rise in anti-Semitism.

The actual physical attacks on Jews that were happening in the UK they were going to leave the next morning for Israel. So, it isn’t just that this goes on social media. It stays on social media, and it’s disgusting, but at least it’s online.

No, it starts online, or it breeds online, and it gets acted out in the streets. Anybody who is a disbeliever that this happens, come with me to Paris. To the Jewish court, come with me to the suburbs of Paris. You’ll see it is not safe.

No mother would allow her Jewish child to walk alone in the suburbs of Paris. Not a chance. That’s the reality for Jews today in Europe.

Barry Nussbaum: Boy, is that discouraging. Thank goodness the Labor Party got rid of Corbyn. At least he’s not in leadership anymore, but he’s lurking in the shadows wanting to return.

Speaking of lurking in the shadows, in the United States, there is a  famous NBC anchor known to everybody as named Katie Couric. She was on Bill Maher, the comedian talk show, liberal guy.

They were talking about Republican members of Congress who were against the certification of the election results without an investigation. As I said previously in this show, it is quite common and happens in every election.

Except now, it’s some kind of crime against humanity. Katie Couric said, I’m going to read the quote, “As much as I’m worried about the loons who break into government,” meaning, broke into the Congress, “I’m much more worried about the loons who did get elected because, I mean, what do you do about these people?

There are 147 Republicans in Congress who still didn’t concede that Trump lost the election. What do you do about them?” She suggested that they get deprogrammed. I’m not kidding, and I’m not making this up.

This is a national NBC famous anchor. She wants to send elected members of the House and the Senate to some sort of deprogramming place. To get their heads straight, like the book by George Orwell, 1984. This is today, Katie Hopkins.

Katie Hopkins: I hear echoes, not only historically, but also in China. We know how they like their reprogramming camps. I hear echoes because it’s the sort of language I see written up in these new health bills or COVID bills that are rushed through in the UK.

They have been rushed through in New Zealand and speak of enforcement officers if you don’t subscribe to the COVID laws and abide by them. Enforcers can enter your home without a warrant. They can take you and hold you in a place that they determine until you comply. So, this idea of reprogramming.

This idea of being taken somewhere to learn your lesson. It is not the only language that I’m hearing from people like Kharasch and others regarding Trump. I also hear this language being used around COVID and what is termed as COVID deniers.

Or, as I would call them, perfectly sane and healthy individuals. I also think, Barry, we have to give the nod or a hat tip of respect to Bill Maher, right? Because he separated out the Capital rioters, the five thousand who broke into the hill.

He was clear on his program that those shouldn’t be confused with the 74 million Trump supporters. The 74 million MEGA voters. I think that was a brave and bold thing for him to do because it flies in the face of what he was expected to say.

I think many people have called for his removal for daring to suggest that the Capital rioters didn’t represent regular Trump voters.

Barry Nussbaum: Oh, my God, what a scandal. I’m sure you know about My Pillow. This guy, Mike Lindell.

Katie Hopkins: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: He came from nothing and started this pillow company. He’s on television about every 8 or 12 seconds, with his cutesy commercials. He’s got pillows, mattress covers, blankets, and all kinds of stuff.

His pillow is the bestselling pillow of all time. The distribution of all of the products of his company has now been discontinued by two enormous national chains, Bed Bath & Beyond and Kohls.

They are dropping his lines because they don’t like his politics because he has the audacity to donate to Trump. As if that’s child slavery or something horrible. Wow.

Katie Hopkins: I wonder what that poor man feels. Mike Lindell walked up to the White House for his meeting with Trump. He had like notes in his hand. I wish that he walked up to the White House with a mattress topper under one arm and a pillow under the other.

Just for the comedy value of it. I wish that it had been that visual. Everyone on the other side was like, why is the pillow guy going to see Trump? I would have just loved him to just be delivering a pillow. I think it would have been perfection.

How unkind and how nasty the other side is to have him removed. I’m hoping he has enough of his money saved away, squirreled away that he can make it. I’m sure any decent Trump supporter will be going out and still buying My Pillow products for as long as they can.

Just to support Mike, if nothing else. What a price to pay for trying to be a decent patriot. I mean, how much has Mike Lindell paid in taxes into the American economy over the period of his lifetime?

Barry Nussbaum: Oh, millions and millions. The appreciation for that is de minimis, if not zero. I have several callers who are calling in with simple messages saying, we love Katie. Keep up the good work.

Katie Hopkins: That was my mom. That would be my mom. Barry, I got a question for you. Why do you do what you do? Why do you do this? Why do you run ATP? Why do you spend your time doing this? Why do you invest in the platform? Where do you get your energy and enthusiasm from to do all this?

Barry Nussbaum: Wow, thanks for surprising me, but I can handle it. When I was a child, my mother told me a story that I never forgot. I remember it quite consistently. It was when she was a little girl, a teenager.

They were living in Budapest, Hungary. She asked her father about what’s going on over in Poland. They heard in Hungary that the Germans are killing Jews there. Her father said something to the effect of, there’s something horrible going on, but we don’t have to worry because that’s over in Poland, we’re in Hungary, and we’re safe.

Everything will be fine. We don’t have to listen to all the horrible things that are being said here in the newspapers. My mother believed that up until the day the Gestapo truck pulled up in their front yard and collected her father and her brother.

They were taken away to Auschwitz. She never saw them again. A few months later, they came for her and her sister, and by coincidence, my father, and his family.

For me, the motivation is, if we don’t learn from history by knowing the truth, knowing what’s right, fighting for freedom, and protection from those that would do us harm, both foreign and domestic we will suffer the same fate.

So, my motivation for American Truth Project is that we, Americans, of which you are an honorary one. In the future, a real one. We have the most beautiful document ever created by man, the United States Constitution.

God willing, we will energetically and enthusiastically protect and promote it forever. It has created the greatest country the world has ever known. The only way we can lose it is by not defending, protecting, and enthusiastically educating others about it.

ATP is about the threats to our way of life. So, it’s become my life. That is why. Thank you for asking.

Katie Hopkins: I think it matters. Your story matters. All of us at the pointy end of the spear have to have this motivation. You’re right. That explains why you do what you do. It would be easier not to. That’s a bit like Lindell.

There will be a reason that’s bigger than, I sell pillows, or I’m Mike Lindell. I think this is right. There will be a motivation that is real. I think that’s one of the glorious things about our side.

I genuinely believe this. No matter what’s going on right now, the horrific scenes that we will see tomorrow when that old man is being, so-called inaugurated. The facade of all of this. Behind our side, not only is 75, 80 million who are Americans, who are utterly brilliant individuals, and the 80 million Americans who want the best for their family.

But 8 million Americans are genuinely motivated by wanting the best for each other. That’s what your story is about; you want people to be safe and nothing bad to happen to them again. That’s how I feel, having seen the UK I don’t want it happening in America. I think that it would be true for Anni.

We have seen stuff that we don’t want to happen to other people. We want them to be okay. I think that’s a very cool plateau to move forward with America First. Where we just want everyone to be all right. I think that’s the joy of our side.

It’s not massively political. It’s not antagonistic. It’s not hostile. We just want everybody to live the best life they can live. That’s a great side to be on.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, let me ask you the same question. Why do you do what you do? You are thousands of miles from home. In Washington, D.C., having flown here to support us in our fight for freedom. Why?

Katie Hopkins: I’ve been on this trail for 10, 15 years now. Having gone into the media, I have seen truths that no one was telling. Then I start telling them. You see what happened to me because you’re not allowed to say those things.

So, coming to America for ten years or so, warning people not to become like the UK. I say to people, “Don’t fall as we have fallen.” I am using myself and other examples to demonstrate that. Of course, now is a very difficult time because America is following down the dark path. But there is still hope. I still know it to be the best.

I also know that there are certain truths that we have that my white South African farming family has. That is that we are still loyal to God and the land. So, God in America, God in South Africa, or family we have things that we can always hold onto, and they are always real things.

So, Biden in that administration may have a trans person. They may decide to upturn the Muslim ban. They may decide to flood America with Guatemalans. Ultimately, our side will always be on the side of truth.

I will always be on the side that is most true to the Founding Fathers. That will always matter. I’ve been all in for a long time, like many other people. I think for many of us, it’s liberating in a time when we are less free than we ever were.

In a time when, for example, in my country, it’s illegal to leave your home. We are going to be locked down until April. At a time when freedoms are being stripped away. To fight for the truth, I think, is the freest you can be.

I’ve been given that gift. I’ve been given the gift of extra time on the earth to sort this out. So, I find it very freeing. I think you’re by nature a happy individual. You’re in that fight. Anni, our producer, is a happy warrior. It makes us happy. That is why our side is happy together because we are fighting for the good stuff.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, God bless you, and I greatly appreciate you coming over here to help us be better Americans. By better Americans, I mean people who understand the gift of our Constitution, the rights it has bestowed, the importance of having those rights protected, defended, encouraged, and transmitted to the next generation. So, on behalf of all of us here thanks for helping. We need it.

Katie Hopkins: Bless you and thanks to our lovely listeners and everybody subscribing to ATP by texting TRUTH to 88202.

Barry Nussbaum: I’ve got a wild one for you. I don’t know if you’re going to be able to make any sense out of this. Tucker Carlson did a show the last couple of days.

He brought the attention to a lady named Kristen Clarke. She’s going to be, if she gets confirmed, Head of the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice. It is an astonishingly powerful job, incredible power.

You have the might of the U.S. government enforcing your dictates. Here’s what scares the hell out of me. This lady is on the Biden list and has not been withdrawn, even since the story broke, said, I’m going to read you the quote.

Melanin, for those that don’t know, melanin is what gives your skin pigmentation. The more melanin you have, the darker you are, the less melanin you have, the whiter you are. It gives your skin color.

Okay, this is what she said, “Melanin endows blacks with greater mental, physical and spiritual abilities than whites. Something which cannot be measured based on eurocentric standards.”

Now, this is something you would expect from Louis Farrakhan. The pre-eminent I hate white people, I hate Jewish people, I hate American people, a preacher from Chicago. It didn’t come from him on this quote.

It came from the woman that President Biden, tomorrow, wants to appoint as Head of the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice. That scares the hell out of me.

The Civil Rights Division is supposed to equal the playing field, so we have a society, as Martin Luther King envisioned. Where it’s not the color of your skin that matters. It’s the quality of your actions.

He dreamt of a day that his four children would not be judged by their color but by what they did. By their actions. God bless him. That was a great goal. We are a lot closer to that today than the horrible day when he was assassinated.

Here we are. All these years later with a racist who is about to be the most powerful law enforcement officer in America. Literally in charge of a division of the government, who is a flat-out racist. What do you say, Katie Hopkins?

Katie Hopkins: Oh, I think two things, and I’ll be brief. One is she was congratulated by the Southern Poverty Law Center, SPLC. I think anybody that gets congratulated on their new role by the Southern Poverty Law Center is always out to take down any of our side.

To me, it is a racist organization. I mean, that racism against whites. It is an immediate red flag. I think secondly, it’s starting to become or already is laughable.

The way that Biden appears to be selecting people. I don’t want to be unkind. I’m sure these people have talents in some departments. But I was once on a British version of The Apprentice. You see how people are selected for these shows.

They need one white one and one black one. They need a Jewish one. They need a Christian one, and they need a slightly weird-looking posh one. I think that was me.

They need this one, a ginger one, and one from Ireland. You get the kind of thing. They need a lineup that represents what they’re trying to represent—goodness me.

Biden has gone for it this time. They’ve got a black woman who’s clearly racist against whites, and they’ve got a trans heading up health. What we should do at ATP is we should get a wall and get their pictures.

Put them up and look at which box and criteria they fulfilled. We must get a disabled lesbian. He’s picking it along the lines of identity politics; what a weird way to select. What happened to recruiting on merit or rewarding on performance.

So, being paid on results. Capitalist principles that we would adhere to in business. What Trump adheres to. It’s all the madness that we face, the melanin thing and all her quotes in the past.

This is the hypocrisy of the left. Anything she says in the past is immediately forgotten and forgiven. Whereas with our side, anything that you might have said once when you were five years old is the reason you should be immediately sacked and canceled from everything.

Barry Nussbaum: Boy, is that the truth. I’m very curious on a corollary thought as to whether or not the Senate, specifically, the conservatives, will stand up and make noise.

I hope they do. We’re about done for today, and before we leave our wonderful audience, I want to remind them if they haven’t done so. Please take out your cell phone text TRUTH to 88202.

You will be signed up, and you’ll get all our stuff for free. Katie, you’re a treasure. I so appreciate you for being part of our family.

Our listening audience keeps sending in comments like, “Ooh my God, she’s so great!” Why isn’t she always on? I know you can’t be on all the time, but we love it.

Katie Hopkins: I pay them.

Barry Nussbaum: Tell your mom to stop calling every two minutes because we keep getting the same message.

Katie Hopkins: Thanks, mom.

Barry Nussbaum: Exactly. Thanks for being with us today, loyal audience. We love you all. We’ll see you next week, and we’ve got content coming out every day.

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Will Johnson: Hello, everybody. Thank you for joining us this February 10th, 2022, and do we have a lot to talk about with you. We’re going to talk about some crack cocaine. Yes, I said crack cocaine. What kind of world are we living in, Channon, where crack cocaine is an a-okay topic?

Crack cocaine is being pushed by the biggest drug dealer in American history, the U.S. government. This is unbelievable, but before we get into talking about crack cocaine and meth, of course, we can’t leave out the meth heads. I’m going to put this number out here.

A lot of people get notifications when we go live during the broadcast like this. If you haven’t already, you can get notifications in the future. Get off your mobile device. Send me a text. The number is 88202, and you simply type my name into the body of the text and hit send. You get information from American Truth Project, which is a sponsor of this broadcast. Also, we will be taking your phone calls during this lively broadcast about crack cocaine, insane in the membrane.

Let’s get on with this. We got a lot of juicy stuff to talk about today. My goodness, it’s never-ending when it comes to the left. Did you ever think, Channon, that the government would be pushing crack cocaine? Let’s just keep it in context here, okay.

Channon: Yes, let’s not put out that false information.

Will Johnson: No false information. It’s not that they’re giving out crack pipes. They’re giving out a smoke kit. So, my question is, you can’t make this stuff up. In this smoke kit, is it for smoking, tobacco, smoking marijuana?

What is it that we are smoking that we need a smoke kit from the government? What do you think that is, Channon?

Channon: Oh my gosh. You know what? Just when you think that things can’t be any crazier or chaotic, here we come along. The Biden administration has this bright idea to create smoke. Take COVID funds and create smoke kits for underprivileged areas or underserviced areas.

That’s what it is, underserviced areas. When we first read about this, they said it was part of their equity plan for COVID recovery. They want to put these smoke packs out there. It’ll make smoking their drug of choice safer. There’s lip balm in there. They really hated the fact that everyone came out. You can’t help it, though.

You can’t help but come out and go – you’re giving out crack pipes? What are you doing? That’s essentially what it is. I mean, when you get down to the bottom of it, they’re giving out free pipes. Do you know what it reminds me of, Will?

Will Johnson: What’s that?

Channon: California, San Francisco.

Will Johnson: You mean commie-fornia?

Channon: Yeah, San Francisco, they were having a problem with people doing drugs, so they said, we have a great idea. It must be a liberal thing. Let’s go ahead and feed people who have a drug problem more ways to get drugs, and we’ll say it’s safer for them. So, they roll out these shoot-up shops, which we call there. Guess what happened? The streets were littered with more crime.

Will Johnson: More needles, more homelessness, more crime.

Channon: Yeah, more crime.

Will Johnson: Everything that the problem was creating just intensified a thousandfold.

Channon: It absolutely did.

Will Johnson: Then the Democrats looked the other way, and they ignored it. Like, this is not something that we did. It’s not our fault that this is happening. We didn’t cause this. We just tried to fix this.

Channon: That’s what’s frustrating to me because now we have a city that has already been through something like this. San Francisco had a poor experience with it. Now guess what San Francisco is doing to help curb the huge drug use. Now they’re putting out open-air rehab centers. It’s like fenced-in rehab centers. These people come in, and I guess they’re going through – it says rehab, so I’m assuming there’s some kind of rehab for everything.

Will Johnson: So, they can come to a safe place and shoot up.

Channon: But it’s fenced in, and they have aerial pictures. The Daily Mail has aerial pictures, and people have gone there to take pictures of these people inside this little area. They’re shooting up. I mean, they are literally shooting up.

Will Johnson: They are pulling their paints down. They are shooting up drugs. You can see the needles there. They are defecating right there where they are because they don’t want to move. They don’t want to get up and move from where the needles are, where the drugs are. They’re still sharing the needles. I mean, it’s so unsanitary, it’s inhumane. You know what, Channon? They treat dogs better than they treat people.

Channon: To be honest with you, it’s disgusting.

Will Johnson: They treat dogs better than they do human beings. There would be no way that a kennel would have this type of condition.

Channon: You’re right.

Will Johnson: There’s no way. They would shut the kennel down, but they have people in there, people half-dressed. People are defecating right there. People are laid out, strung out on these drugs, and they’re acting like, oh – this is perfect. This is beautiful. We’re helping these people. They’re helping them kill themselves.

Channon: Absolutely. That’s what it is. It’s perpetuated the problem. So, when we heard this, we were like, are you kidding?

Will Johnson: Everybody said this couldn’t be real. When I first saw this story came across social media platforms. I was looking at it, and I’m like – this can’t be real. The first time I saw it, I ignored it, saying, this is clickbait. I’m not going to do it, but now you have politicians talking about it.

They’re pushing crack onto the populace. Not only crack but heroin or making it easier for you to use it. They’re not actually going to hand out the crack and the heroin, but they’re giving you the tools so you can use it in a so-called kit.

Channon: Yeah, so what happened today, Will?

Will Johnson: Oh, my goodness.

Channon: We woke up to Psaki, this woman…

Will Johnson: Oh, my goodness. She is a professional liar. I don’t want to get into it, but she is lying.

Channon: She’s a sinner.

Will Johnson: She’s a professional liar, but she’s not good at it because we all know they are straight-up lying. So, Jen Psaki -sock it to you, sock it to me – went on national television during a press conference, and she was asked the question about the crack pipes being in the smoke kit.

She comes out saying they’re putting out misleading information. There are no smoke pipes – crack pipes in the kit, but she lists everything else that crack smokers use, crack smokers and meth users. She lists all these things. You know what lip balm is, right?

Channon: Yes.

Will Johnson: So, for those of you that don’t know. When I was younger, I hung out in some not-so-good neighborhoods. I used to hang out in the hood. All, good in the hood. Not that I did anything. I can tell you right now. God is my witness. I’ve never done crack.

Channon: Because it’s whack.

Will Johnson: It’s whack. I’ve never done it, and you know what? When I was in the hood, I saw people that were using it. Their bodies deteriorated. They end up stealing from their family members. They end up stealing from anyone that they can, so they can get that next fix.

It is a horrible thing, and meth goes right along with it because typically, meth ends up in the white community. Crack ends up in the black community, and it’s by design. The government is no longer hiding the fact that they’re pushing this stuff onto the people. It’s ridiculous. Anyways, while I was in the hood, I never actually saw this, but one gentleman told me that he saw a guy smoking crack, and they put crack into the one end of a T.V. antenna.

Then they would smoke it through the other end because the T.V. antenna is hollow. The thing that was even worse was – imagine they’re putting flame to the T.V. antenna. What color does metal get when it gets hot?

Channon: Black.

Will Johnson: What color is it while it’s hot? It’s red, beet red from the heat, and they’re just fingering it, holding it, trying to smoke that crack pipe while they’re doing it. Their fingertips are burning.

Channon: Shut up.

Will Johnson: Their fingertips are literally burning, and when told me about that. I’m like, what? That is crazy. Then I started paying attention when I came across people and looked at their hands. Sure enough, you can see where their hands are burnt and the whole lip balm thing. Not only that, but their lips are also burnt, and their lips start losing mass because the crack deteriorates everything in your body.

Channon: Well, Will, you just became a spokesperson for Psaki and Biden’s smoke kit. They are going to say, that’s why we’re giving out the smoke kit, so they don’t burn their fingers off. We are helping the people. (laughing)

Will Johnson: Okay, now you got a point. (laughing) You got a good point.

Channon: Okay, Will, we have a caller. We have Justine from Florida.

Will Johnson: Hey, Justine. Do we have Justine? Maybe not.

Channon: I can’t hear, Justine. Is she on mute? Oh, I am hearing something now.

Justine: Hello.

Channon: Justine, hello Justine.

Will Johnson: Hey, Justine, thank you so much for calling us.

Justine: Hey, so after watching the parts of Psaki, speaking this morning about this program with the lip balm and alcohol wipes. That’s all I could picture is some people in a crack den getting together, and somebody saying, hey, wait; everybody get your alcohol wipes out, and wipe it first. Get your Chapstick and put it on before we begin. I mean, get real.

Will Johnson: It’s crazy.

Justine: There’s no way, even if these things could work, that they would be used by people who are crack users. It’s just not going to happen.

Channon: How do you make it safe? It’s unsafe to use crack. It blows my mind. I feel like we could use that money, maybe to help them go through rehab or do something else more productive, but these kits do not help people get off drugs. It helps them do drugs, not use a T.V. antenna-like, Will was talking about.

Will Johnson: Like a safe environment or safe conditions. It’s all crazy. So, let me ask you when you heard her say that this was just a smoking kit. Did you think they were talking about smoking for nicotine or marijuana? What did you think they were she was talking about for smoking?

Justine: I figured that it was for drugs. I mean, people don’t talk much about cigarette smoking anymore. It’s just ridiculous. The whole concept is ridiculous. I have family that lives in Denver, Colorado, and they’ve been there for about 12 years, and I went there after they started having all those legal marijuana places where you could go and smoke marijuana. I’m watching, and first of all, the air reeks everywhere you go.

You’re driving in your car on the highway, and you can smell it. That’s how horrible it is. Then I’m walking downtown with my son, and this gentleman mid-to-late afternoon dressed for construction comes out of one of those marijuana dens reeking like, you don’t even want to think about it.

They all smell like dead skunks. I swear to God. There they are going to a parking place. Do you think that it’s safe? I mean, come on. Let’s use some friends here.

Channon: I don’t know how productive he would be.

Will Johnson: Yeah, I know. I don’t smoke marijuana, but I would have to say that there have been proven cases where medical marijuana has helped even children. There have been cases, but you talk about marijuana vs. crack and meth. I don’t ever recall hearing stories or reports of someone smoking marijuana, and then they got to steal the car to get more marijuana.

Channon: Well, it doesn’t physically deteriorate your teeth and mouth.

Will Johnson: It doesn’t do that. It makes you hungry, and you want to eat more. It does kill brain cells unnecessarily. The whole thing is, I don’t think the whole smoking kit that the Biden administration is pushing is for marijuana, either.

Channon: It is for extremely addictive drugs that ruin people’s lives.

Will Johnson: Yeah, and they’re going to make it easy for them to do it. What kind of world are we living in? Did you ever think that you would have your government pushing this type of paraphernalia onto us as Americans?

Justine: No, never.

Channon: Justine, let me ask you this. What do you think they would say if Trump had done this?

Will Johnson: Oh, my goodness, yes. What do you think? Give me your thoughts.

Justine: Well, if Trump had suggested something like this, they would have said that he was a degenerate, and of course, he’s just got all those smelly deplorables underneath that are just having their brains wiped out by drugs.

Will Johnson: (laughing)

Justine: Quite frankly, I think they’re going to do this in – excuse me – the black neighborhoods.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Channon: I think it’s racist. I do. I feel like it’s perpetuating a problem. This doesn’t make their lives better. It doesn’t make them want to do better for themselves. It keeps them where they’re at.

Will Johnson: Yeah, it keeps them in that rut. It’s ridiculous, and you know what, Justine? You’re absolutely right. They’re pushing this in the black community, and the reason why they’re trying to backtrack on it right now is they realize that this is not going to look good when a lot of black people figure out that we’re pushing crack pipes into their neighborhood. They’re going to be like. You’re trying to kill us. You’re trying to destroy us. It’s so bizarre. Justine, thank you so much for the call.

Justine: Have a great day. God bless you.

Will Johnson: You too, take care. God bless you. You know, Channon, it also makes me think about what we just saw earlier in Snoops. Snoops came out and said that it’s mostly not true.

Channon: Mostly false.

Will Johnson: It’s mostly false, meaning that these are just smoke kits. There’s no actual crack in them, no crack pipe, and they said it’s mostly false because it’s secondary when it comes to pushing it to a certain community, like the black community. Are you kidding me? Seriously, I’ve known for a long time that Snoops is left leaning. They’re anti-American, and this just exposes them as the communist group that they are.

Channon: Yeah, because they’re getting criticized from every which way. You can’t say that giving out kits is mostly false. They are giving out these kits. Maybe not the crack in them, but they’re most certainly giving them pipes in there. There are lip balm and alcohol wipes, as she said.

Will Johnson: There are also syringes in there.

Channon: So, it’s all about doing the act of drugs. What’s mostly false? They’re saying, like, Will said. They are saying, first, they hand it out to people that have a drug problem and that need clean needles. That race is just a secondary part of it. They’ll hand it out to people of any color, but mostly they want to give it to black people.

Will Johnson: Of course.

Channon: But they won’t turn you away if you’re a white person, and you want it free.

Will Johnson: Yeah, if they want a free crack pipe. It’s really amazing. This is on Fox News. I love how Fox News says this. Listen to this. This is a headline that they put “Critics Mock Liberal Fact-Checking Sight for Rating Reporting on Biden Crack Pipe Funding, Mostly False.”

Fox News says, “left fact-checking,” meaning that they’re only going to go along with the left, regardless. That just shows it. Fox News was calling them out. I love it.

Channon: Yeah, it’s pretty crazy.

Will Johnson: Mostly false. (laughing) Wow!

Channon: (laughing) I don’t know who this person is, Timothy B. Lee, but he tweeted out. He said I don’t understand why fact-checking sites twist themselves in rhetoric, pretzels like this. I mean, it’s a pretzel. You know that they’re giving out this smoke kit. You can’t say it’s a good thing, and somehow Biden – somebody sat in a room and said, this is a really good COVID-19 recovery program.

Will Johnson: Do you know who I think did it? Hunter Biden. (laughing) I think Hunter Biden was daddy.

Channon: Daddy. (laughing)

Will Johnson: Daddy, daddy, I need a clean crack pipe, daddy. He goes, boy, son Hunter, I will fix it. Then he goes over and says, let’s put out a program to put clean crack pipes out there. My boy needs a clean crack pipe, and I know firsthand the damage he is doing when he can’t get a clean crack pipe.

Channon: Somebody is making money off this.

Will Johnson: Someone is making a lot of money, 30 million, 30 plus million dollars.

Channon: They said I need some money. I can help you out. Let’s do this.

Will Johnson: Yeah, let’s do this with crack pipes. At the same time, we can kill two birds with one stone. We kill the economy, and then we kill the black economy. The black community as well because, being Democrats, we want to destroy them as much as possible. Anyway, I want to play something here, an audio clip.

Channon: Can I just say something real quick?

Will Johnson: You sure cannot. (laughing)

Channon: I’m reading this right here, and they said this is the reason why it’s mostly false. They said this is one of the 20 components of the grant program and far from its most prominent or important one, despite being the primary focus of the outraged reports. The program’s purpose is to reduce harm and the risk of infection among drug users.

Not to advance racial equity, although that is a secondary consideration. But is it not a risk to perpetuate a drug problem? So, they’re more worried about an infection?

Will Johnson: Oh, my goodness.

Channon: Hepatitis B and stuff like that is not the problem.

Will Johnson: So, instead of trying to make it to where people can get help from preventing them from smoking the crack, heroin, or meth in the first place. They say we’ll do this so that you can do it in a safe, clean environment.

You can continue to do it. We’re not going to say you’re going to jail for having these illegal drugs, but we’re going to provide the means for you to do these illegal drugs that destroy the mind and the body.

Channon: It says, “The grant is required for safer smoking kits to existing drug users. (laughing) It’s distributing grants, prioritize serving historically underserved communities.”

Will Johnson: Underserved communities, the ghettos, the projects. It’s just going to create a bigger problem. So, you know what I think? Biden is competing with Obama when it comes to this.

Channon: What do you mean?

Will Johnson: Well, Obama gave out the Obama phone. So, Biden wants to give out the Biden crack pipe. (laughing) He wants to compete with him.

Channon: The phone is not, I’m sorry. I don’t.

Will Johnson: I guess they’re going to get more happiness out of that pipe, but let’s listen to this. This was on Fox News, and this is from Senator – I can’t remember his name right now, but I want to listen to what he says because he says…

Channon: Senator Kennedy.

Will Johnson: Senator Kennedy, yeah. I don’t know why I can’t remember that, Senator Kennedy. Listen to what he says when he is asked a question on Fox News about Biden and the crack pipes.

Harris Faulkner, Anchor on Fox News: This might be one that senators are reading. Senator Tom Cotton tweeted this, “To be clear, HHS is giving taxpayer dollars to organizations to distribute crack pipes on their behalf. Just because HHS bureaucrats are not personally handing out the crack pipes doesn’t make this a good idea.”

And Senator Marsha Blackburn is “Vowing to hold up the government funding resolution until it’s absolutely clear taxpayers are not shelling out a dime for those crack pipes,” Senator Kennedy.

Senator John Kennedy: Well, let me say this about Ms. Psaki. She probably ought to be Janet King’s employee of the year because she has to clean up about three messes every single day. Look, here’s what I do know. The Biden administration has taken $30 million from their emergency COVID bill, and they’re using it to facilitate the smoking of crack cocaine and crystal meth.

They say they can make it safer, and I say there’s no way to make smoking, crack cocaine, or meth safer. It’s like trying to put a filter on a cigarette. They ought to take these $30 million, which they said they would use for COVID. They ought to use it to secure the border to stop the drugs from coming in.

They ought to use it to get these folks into addiction programs, and they ought to talk straight to the American people and explain, well, you’re right. We got caught trying to help people, make it easier for people to smoke crack, and it was a dumb thing to do, and we reversed course.

Will Johnson: And they’re not going to own up to it. This is them trying to backtrack. Of course, as I mentioned earlier, the only reason why the Biden administration and the Democrats are backtracking is that the black people that vote are getting wind of this, and they’re going – what? Because again, if President Trump even mentioned anything about pushing crack pipes into the black community, talking about his racial equity.

They will be saying he’s trying to kill us. He’s literally proving that he’s racist. He’s trying to kill black people. You know, I’m still wanting to do this. Get my camera, go out, and just interview people. Ask them, “have you heard that President Trump said, once he’s back in the White House, that he’s going to make crack pipes available to everybody that’s on drugs?”

What do you think about it? I think that would be a really good video because even though we’re talking about it, even you are aware by listening to this. There are still a lot of people out there that don’t even have a clue this is going on. You know, the mainstream media is going to keep this on the hush-hush as much as possible.

They’re going to keep it on the hush-hush, on the down-low because they don’t want you to know about it. If they can prevent you from knowing about it, that means this is another one that they can get by you, but this is just too far. This is going too far.

Channon: Yeah, because in all honesty. Drug problems in underserved neighborhoods are a damaging problem. It’s affecting families. I can’t imagine being a mother if I knew that Biden was giving my son a free crack pipe, and I’m trying to get him off drugs. I’d be a little frustrated.

I’d be more like, why can’t you just give me money to help me get him in a program? Or why can’t you stop drugs coming from the southern border? We know opioids and fentanyl are coming in at an all-time high, taking lives and destroying lives? Why isn’t that a primary focus? It’s very, very frustrating to me because while we sit here, we might all be laughing, making fun of it. It’s serious.

You can’t say you’re addressing a problem, and you don’t address the problem head-on. It’s kind of like what they’re doing at the fricking border. They’re like, don’t come here. Don’t come here, Central America, don’t come to America, yet they leave the door wide open, and here they come in. It’s ridiculous.

Will Johnson: Yeah, absolutely. They leave the door wide open, saying, come on in. Bring the drugs with you, especially China pushing the fentanyl through the southern border. The U.S. government is aware of it, and they’re not stopping it.

Channon: Will, we have a caller. We have Suzanne, from Tennessee,

Will Johnson: Suzanne is from Tennessee. Awesome. Hey, Suzanne, thank you so much for the call.

Suzanne: Hey, here. You’re welcome. I don’t have a question because it would be a rhetorical question, but I have a statement. How dare the government, how dare they enable the users? They’ve never had anybody in their family that is a user, and you spend your entire night driving the city streets, trying to find them. Trying to save them from death, and you are going to enable them to do this even more.

That’s just a slap in the face. All they’ve ever wanted to do is break down the family to keep everybody on the government dole, so they can tell us what to do. It just makes me angry, and I don’t understand how we would allow that to happen in the United States of America.

Will Johnson: Well, let me ask you a question. All the people that voted for Biden. What do you think is going through their minds when they see this? Do you think they’re just saying, no; this is not true. I don’t care what you all say. It’s not true, but it is true. And the ones that find out it’s true. What do you think they’re saying? What do you think is going through their minds?

Suzanne: Well, I’m going to be fair about it and say that I think half of the Biden voters are upset now, thinking they thought they were getting something genuine when they weren’t, but the other half just don’t care. Everybody, look around at our world. It’s okay to be crazy anymore. It’s okay to steal any time you want to. It’s okay to do whatever we want to do, so I think half and half. Some people just don’t care.

Will Johnson: I would agree with that.

Channon: I think you’re spot on, Suzanne. I’m with you, woman. I’m like, yes, yes, on everything you’re saying. It’s infuriating, and I said the same thing before you got on the line. Think about these mothers trying to get their children off drugs. Then you hear they’re doing this nonsense

Will Johnson: Not making it more difficult.

Channon: It’s absolutely infuriating.

Suzanne: Well, I’m sitting here with tears in my eyes because I’ve been that person. I’ve been driving around looking for my family member, praying that they weren’t dead by morning. All these parents have literally lost their children, so if you’re going to enable it and give them a smoke kit with nothing in it. What do you think the kids are going to do with it? Are you that dumb?

Channon: Yes. You know what? It’s just like abortion here in Texas. Abortion was huge. We shut it down to where six weeks they can’t abort anymore. Guess how much abortion went away? 60% it is down, 60%. You say we are not allowing drugs. If you don’t give them an avenue to continue this dangerous, reckless life. It will stop, but when you feed it, it doesn’t stop.

Suzanne: There are programs out there to help these people. Why are we just discarding them like they’re trash? I worked with a group out of Dixon, Tennessee, that helped these people on their last leg before prison. I saw that program work. They brought them in, and they gave them time. They gave them all the tools they needed, and these girls have not gone back to what they were doing before.

So, why are you just going to continue enabling the behavior when it just kills people? There is a path they want us to go down, and that’s how they open the door and say, all you sheep – come on – let’s go.

Will Johnson: Yeah. Actually, they are goats. Just come on. You know what? It’s a spiritual battle, and we’re all seeing it happen right before our very eyes. This is evil. What they are doing is blatantly evil because it destroys lives, and they know it. Instead of spending $30 million to go into programs like you just mentioned. They rather spend 30 million to enable people to smoke these crack pipes. To smoke this heroin, this meth. It is completely insane.

Suzanne: I have to keep in mind that my dad was a pastor, so I heard all the things my mom had to say about this when I was a little girl. I thought I would never see it come to pass, but I have. We better get ready because the Lord’s coming back.

Channon: Amen.

Will Johnson: Absolutely. Hey, thank you so much for the call.

Suzanne: Thank you for talking to me. Yes, sir. Bye-bye.

Channon: Thank you.

Will Johnson: Thank you. Take care. So, Channon, I want to play something else. This is an audio clip from Marco Rubio, and now you have the left. You have the leftist fake fact-checkers. They’re all coming out saying it’s mostly false, like it’s not true. Like, no, no, no, they’re not doing this.

They are trying to cover for each other, and I’m always saying demons will protect demons because that’s exactly what it is. You need to call this out for what it is, but let’s listen to what Marco Rubio says about Joe Biden and the Democrats when it comes to the wacky crack.

Senator Marco Rubio: The Biden administration is apparently sending crack pipes and meth pipes targeting minority communities in this country, underserved communities. I know that sounds insane. I know that sounds too crazy to be true. They confirmed that yesterday.

They call them smoking kits, and they say it’s about equity, but they have, in essence, confirmed that they’re going to be mailing and sending pipes that can be used to smoke crack and meth to underserved communities in America. This is insanity. This isn’t even about liberal and conservative anymore. This is about crazy vs. normal – insane vs. common sense. Where does this end?

Will Johnson: The insane is getting headway. Like, this is okay. This is a different world. You know what it makes me think about, Channon. I’m constantly going back to it, the great deception. We’re seeing the greatest deception where you are telling the people that we’re going to do a smoke kit, and we all know it is for drugs, illegal drugs because they’re not doing smoke kids for nicotine.

They’re not doing smoke for marijuana. I mean, seriously, people who smoke marijuana, you don’t need to have lip balm and all this other extra stuff for it. This is insane. They’re doing it for hard drugs that destroy bodies.

What else could it be? This is unbelievable, and I did a video just the other day. I did it on the fascist book. That was the video I was doing. I went ahead and labeled it 30 million for crack pipes. I know that was the thing that triggered the left. They didn’t want to see it because they knew what was going on.

They let a minimal amount of people see the video, and some people were trying to say I was putting out misleading information. Until they started seeing it come out themselves, they started seeing the truth. Today, Jen Psaki – sock it to you, sock it to me. Again, she does this press conference. She does a press conference where she’s just trying to say, no; there’s no crack pipes in there. It’s only a smoke kit.

Channon: It’s disgusting.

Will Johnson: Again, what smoke kit do you need for marijuana or cigarettes? What smoke do you need?

Channon: Nobody needs a smoke kit, period.

Will Johnson: Nobody needs a smoke kit, exactly – period. Listen to Jen Psaki as she is asked about the smoke kit with the crack pipes. She’s going to say it’s not there, but you just heard Marco Rubio, which is a member as well, and he just laid it out there. Listen. So, who do you believe, Marco Rubio or Jen Psaki?

Reporter’s Question: Were they never a part of the kit, or were they removed in response to this reporting and this pushback? Just – the language was unclear.

Jen Psaki, White House Press Secretary: They were never a part of the kit; it was inaccurate reporting, and we wanted to put out information to make that clear.

Reporter’s Question: So, what is in the safe smoking kit?

Jen Psaki, White House Press Secretary: A safe smoking kit may contain alcohol swabs, lip balm, other materials to promote hygiene and reduce the transmission of diseases like HIV and hepatitis.

Will Johnson: Okay, let me stop it there because she goes through this so fast trying, hoping no one picks up on it, and I just did a small video about it talking about this very thing. Where she’s talking about lip balm for anyone like, I was mentioning earlier, Channon, these drug addicts.

When I remember when I was younger in the hood, they smoked the crack out of the T.V. antenna, and it would be so hot it would destroy their lips. I remember them talking about the lip balm constantly, and they were using the lip balm over and over. They could never get enough lip balm on their mouth to relieve the pain, the dryness, and the crankiness.

It was terrible. The lip was always shiny, too. For her to talk about lip balm in there, she talked about lip balm because a lot of people don’t know this. A lot of people don’t know that.

Channon: Actually, I did ask you about it, and I’m like, what is that?

Will Johnson: That is exactly it! A lot of people don’t know that when people are using drugs like this, lip balm is huge. Can I say commodity? It’s a huge selling point.

Channon: Why would you say this? She listed some very unharmful things. Things that you go, oh; there’s that in there? It’s kind of like, okay – there is just lip balm in there. That’s not bad.

Will Johnson: It’s not that bad.

Channon: All these harmful things that are not bad.

Will Johnson: It’s not that bad.

Jen Psaki, White House Press Secretary: Hepatitis, I would note that what we’re really talking about here is steps that we’re taking as a federal government to address the opioid epidemic, which is killing tens of thousands – if not more – Americans every single day, week, the month of the year.

Will Johnson: If they really cared about that, the southern border would be fixed.

Channon: The border!

Will Johnson: They would shut it down, but instead of fixing where all the drugs are coming across the border. Guess what they’re doing? They’re enabling everybody to use these drugs when they get here.

Channon: So, disgusting.

Will Johnson: That’s exactly what it is. Wait a minute! It just dawned on me.

Channon: What?

Will Johnson: China is sending the drugs through the southern border, and the O’Biden administration wants to make sure that you have the proper tools to use these drugs. What else is it?

Channon: Well, I said somebody is making money.

Will Johnson: They’re all making money off of this.

Jen Psaki, White House Press Secretary: We put out this statement, though, because there was inaccurate information out there – or I should say, HHS put out the statement because there was inaccurate information out there, and we wanted to provide clarification on the allowable uses for the HHS Harm Reduction program. It’s not a change in policy.

This program, though, is focused on harm reduction strategies, including prioritizing the use of fentanyl test strips and clean syringes. And all of these harm reduction services that will be supported by these programs are intended to save lives from the use of fentanyl test strips and clean syringes, and all of these harm reduction services that will be supported by these programs are intended to save lives from…

Will Johnson: Fentanyl test strips, meaning that they’re going to test it before they use the drug. I mean, what is that? What is that? I don’t know. What is a fentanyl test strip?

Channon: I don’t know, but she did say clean syringes.

Will Johnson: Clean syringes, meaning you’re going to be able to use the syringes for your drugs too. They’re going to provide everything that you’d need for a safe environment for you to use these hard drugs that are destroying.

Channon: You know, it’s frustrating because people that have any sort of intelligence, they…

Will Johnson: You are not talking about Democrats, are you?

Channon: Right.

Will Johnson: Okay.

Channon: We’re sitting here going if you want to take care of so many problems in our country. Close the southern border. Start there, but they completely ignore it.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: It’s really frustrating. Will – I just – I’m talking about sex trafficking, drugs, and so many other things are happening down there. It’s disgusting, and they’re sitting out here proud that they’re doing a smoke box.

Will Johnson: Yeah, a smoke kit to engage in your illegal activities. The government is saying it’s okay. Does anyone really understand?

Channon: I don’t even care if it’s pipes or syringes. I don’t care. Neither one of them, both are part of the problem.

Will Johnson: They do drugs. Now, listen to this one. This is another.

Channon: The crack pipe has such a negative reaction. So, they’re like, let’s get rid of that.

Will Johnson: Yeah, take the crack pipe out, but we’re still going to send syringes.

Channon: Syringes, clean syringes.

Will Johnson: Yeah, they can smoke it through the syringe. You know they’ve done it before. Now, listen to this report. This is on Fox News, and I think Senator Kennedy is in this report as well. Listen.

Bill Hemmer, Co-Anchor on Fox News: The Biden administration is now moving to make it easier for drug users to light up and get high on crack and crystal meth. A new program will hand out needles, and pipes along with safe sex kits, reportedly to make drug use safer while promoting racial equity. Also, they want to hand out the pipes so you don’t inject. Louisiana Senator John Kennedy, a Republican on the Judiciary Committee, and Senator, good morning to you. Does this work?

Senator John Kennedy: Bill, they’re almost aren’t words in English. The Biden administration – just – they just keep on rocking it in the free world. I mean, every single day, reality calls, and the Biden administration just hangs up. I don’t think when moms and dads lie down at night and America and can’t sleep. They’re worried about clean injection sites and sterile crack pipes. The issue, Mr. President, is a crime. The issue, Mr. President, is how to stop it. Not how to encourage,

Will Johnson: You know what? That young lady called in, and she says she was sitting there in tears. I can only imagine. She and millions of other mothers out there hearing this nonsense, and they’re like, my God – my child went through all of this, and now you’re going to encourage them to do it more? You’re going to make it easier for them to do it.

I don’t want them to do it at all. It’s destroying them, and this is coming people – from the federal government. The federal government pushes these narcotics, this paraphernalia, onto your children. Oh my God.

Channon: In a Snoop’s article, it said that these packs were only one of the 20 components in this bill. You know what Psaki should have done if she believed in the program. She should have said what those other 19 components were, but she didn’t even mention what the components were.

Will Johnson: She just wanted to talk about the good things in this part of the package.

Channon: So, I’m like, what’s so great about this program other than the smoke pack or box. I don’t know. The more you talk about it, the more you just sit there and think…

Will Johnson: Is it real?

Channon: Only idiots would think this was a good idea.

Will Johnson: Only idiots would come up with it.

Channon: Yeah, or people don’t want money. What do drug dealers do? They don’t care about your drug addiction. They care about their money, and that’s like governments don’t care about you. They only care about keeping you on drugs for some reason, but they want to say they’re helping you. Drug dealers are the same way. He’s helping you. He’s helping you feel better. He’s going to make you feel like you love the world.

Will Johnson: Here’s some love. There is love in this pipe.

Channon: It’s love. You don’t want to feel bad anymore.

Will Johnson: There is love in this needle. Love in this pipe. You know what? We’re laughing because it’s insane-insane laughter. I’m with you the more I talk about it. The more I continue to think about it. The more I see them trying to deflect, and now trying to say, that’s not what we were doing.

The more it seems like it’s a dream. We’re all about to wake up from this. We’re all about to wake up from it. Anybody who voted for this, it’s your fault. If you voted for Biden/ Kamala Harris, it is your fault that they’re pushing drugs onto your children.

Channon: Talk about voter remorse.

Will Johnson: You get to take the blame yourself. Yeah, voter remorse. Oh, my goodness. Channon, how many people do you think said, I hated Trump. I hated Trump because they believed all the lies that he was racist, a misogynist, and a dictator.

How many of them do you think are saying the same thing right now when they hear the government pushing drugs on their children? Some of them, as the young lady said earlier. Some of them just don’t care.

Channon: Unfortunately, the left hated Trump so much that their hate supersedes common sense. That’s really what I feel. I think there might be some moderates out there because you have met them. You’ve talked to them. Where they sit there, and they go – oh man – I wish I wouldn’t have voted for Biden.

I thought he would have been better, and now they’re extremely disappointed. There are those people, but I think this is also bringing out the true colors of the Democrat Party. I mean, this is what they’re about. They say they are for the people, but this is not for the people.

Will Johnson: This is for Satan. I’ll just go ahead and say it. This is 100% for Satan because there’s nothing godly about pushing crack pipes and means to do these horrific drugs that destroy your mind and body. There’s nothing godly about that.

Channon: And they don’t look at the country as a whole. How can we improve the lives of all Americans in America? Because the opioid problem that she mentioned is not just an underserved community problem. It’s a problem even in some of the richest neighborhoods. So, if you really want to help most American people, secure the border.

Will Johnson: Yeah, secure the border, and then put the money into the programs that will get people not to need a crack pipe. Not that they need one, but to get them to say, you know what? I don’t want that, but they have the opposite idea.

They have the totally opposite idea when it comes to your health. Look how they did it with the vaccine. Come to find out some of the stuff in the vaccine, but they still want you to inject it into your body, regardless of what’s happening to people.

Regardless that young men are getting these heart conditions, regardless of what’s happening to the women who are getting it. They say, well – you know, it’s only a small number, so it’s not enough to stop pushing it onto everybody.

Personally, I think it’s a time bomb, but for them to push these pipes. Someone needs to go to jail. Seriously, someone needs to go to jail. If it was a rational thinking world, and they were pushing this crack pipe paraphernalia. When I was younger, if you got caught driving around. You didn’t have to have the drugs in your vehicle, but if you got caught with the paraphernalia. Do you know what happened? You go to jail. They would take you to jail, or at least it would be a misdemeanor for just having the paraphernalia without the drugs.

Now, you get the federal government putting the paraphernalia out there so people can use the drugs coming into the country. I guess maybe one of the reasons they’re doing this is because they’re going to have a new influx of drugs coming into the country. So, we need somebody to use these drugs, or we’re just going to have too many. We’ve got to get them to use it so we can make it. We got to get them to use it.

Channon: Oh my God. That’s the only shipment problem we’re not having.

Will Johnson: It’s not funny, but it’s funny.

Channon: That is the only supply chain that is actually working.

Will Johnson: Yeah, exactly. That’s the only import that the Democrats are happy about. Those imports, we want to keep those flowing. Anything else – goods and services that you all need coming in from our ports and stuff like that, no; you’re not getting that because you kind of need those things. You don’t need this, but there’s so much money.

This goes to show how much money is being pushed for all of this because you know what? They’re saying 30 million, but there is a lot more than that being made. Think about all of the drugs that are going to go into those crack pipes. Think about all the drugs that are going to go into the needles. They’re not even talking about that number, and who’s providing all the drugs?

Who is providing the drugs? We already know that it’s coming through the southern border, and the federal government is aware of it because they’re making it easy so that you can use them.

Channon: The Border Patrol is even saying there is a huge problem.

Will Johnson: Ouch.

Channon: Why are you pinching me? He just pinched me.

Will Johnson: I just pinch you?

Channon: Yeah.

Will Johnson: I was seeing if you can say, ouch – to see if you’re awake or not.

Channon: I just don’t even know what to say anymore. It’s frustrating.

Will Johnson: Let me think about it.

Channon: To me, at first, we were in shock. Then we made fun of it. Then they came out, and they excused it and said, you’re not exactly right about all the details. Now I’m just mad because then I’m like, really? So, you are still defending the stupid idea even though they have been exposed as a dumb idea.

Will Johnson: Do you know what I think? First, we’re in denial, saying, no – this is not real. Then it comes to the point, this is crazy, and it’s real. Then it gets to the point of laughing because they’re doing this, thinking that we are going to believe it, and then anger starts to set in. To be honest with you.

This angers me. I’m pretty good at being able to control my anger. I’m not perfect at it because there have been times where I will show my anger, and I have shown my anger. Just to let everybody know, this is when something like this angers me. You have people in positions of authority doing something that is going to destroy the lives of our children.

I’m constantly talking about it. They destroy the lives of our children by trying to indoctrinate them with this crazy stuff. Telling little Johnny that he’s a girl or Mary, that she’s a boy. They are in their indoctrinating the kids by separating the kids from each other, manipulating their minds. Suicide is up with these kids already.

They’re openly destroying the American family, and when I say the American family – I mean, every last one of us that love our freedoms, love this country. They are openly destroying it and all these people out here that have voted for these people. Right now, when they see this, I’m willing to bet they’re ignoring it. They’re looking the other way and trying to act like it’s not even happening.

I’m willing to bet that they’re just saying that’s just a right-wing conspiracy. You know that’s what they’re saying, right-wing conspiracy to try to get us to believe that the Obama administration is doing something because they just hate him. You know, some of them are saying that. I guarantee it. Not all of them, of course. This right here, if this doesn’t hurt them along with them pushing it. Look, we are sponsored by ATP, a non-profit.

ATP is not telling anyone hope to vote or how you should vote. Okay. Just to be clear, but what the Democrats are doing, because it’s not the Republicans doing this. We’re just acknowledging the truth here. The Democrats are pushing this onto the people. What the Democrats have done when it comes to masking our children when it comes to the COVID and people losing their jobs because they don’t want to take a vaccine.

The Democrats are the ones that are doing this, and people are not going to forget. If you haven’t been paying attention, a lot of Democrat states and cities have been backtracking. Trying to act like we’re going to end it because the only reason they’re acting like they are for the people now, all of a sudden.

End some of these mandates and end the school masking up for your children is because we’re in an election year. They don’t want to be voted out. They don’t want to lose their power, the seat they’re sitting in.

Channon: Yeah. I was just saying, this goes on top of the pile of reasons people are upset with the Biden administration. You’ve got inflation. It is up 7.5% as of today. Then you got a lot of these mask mandates. He said he’s going to come out with new requirements, but a lot of states are like, we can’t wait on you, Biden.

We’re losing our base here. We got to go ahead and lift these mandates because everybody is sick of it. Biden said that he was going to get rid of this virus by rolling out these vaccines, and he hasn’t.

Will Johnson: They’ve been rolling out the vaccine. Since people are not getting it, Biden said, if you get the vaccine. You won’t get the COVID, and you won’t die.

Channon: Now, here’s the thing. The vaccine doesn’t cure it.

Will Johnson: But that’s what he was saying. If you want to be cured. You don’t have to worry about getting the COVID, and you won’t die. Guess what happened? People have been getting sick. People are getting the vaccine – one booster, two boosters, three boosters, four.

Channon: I think they’re just tired of it all. They’re tired of the negativity. They’re tired of the division. A lot of people are, and I’m not just talking about white people. Black people are too. They’re like, cut it out. Do you know what I mean?

Nobody likes to live in a constant state of tension. That’s pretty much how we are. We’re in a constant state of tension, and our children are suffering. Our relationships with one another, neighbors, coworkers, the people who shop in stores, kids, they’re their family, and friends. It’s all been impacted, and people are tired of it.

Will Johnson: 100%.

Channon: I’m tired of going to the grocery store, and they don’t have what I need.

Will Johnson: Because of what the O’Biden administration has done to this nation, gas prices are going back up through the roof. This time last year, gas was average at $2.48. Now, it’s averaging at $3.48.

Up a whole dollar, and for families already struggling, you have to get to work. Adding another dollar per gallon adds up. That is painful, and Psaki just blows it off.

Channon: A couple of days ago, they brought up regret for shutting down the pipeline. She is like, we’re committed to being green.

Will Johnson: Yeah, we want to shut down more pipelines.

Channon: You know what she did? She spun it around and said, maybe we should be upset with these gas and oil companies raising their prices. Well, you pretty much made it more expensive for them to get their gas.

We can’t even get the supply chain into America because of your rules. You guys are the ones that are making it more expensive, but just like you said, she doesn’t want to take responsibility.

Will Johnson: You know what it made me think? It made me think about when Biden went into the White House. What was one of the first things he did? He shut down the XL Pipeline. He shut it down. Guess what else he did? He removed sanctions from Russia, and guess what they started doing?

Channon: Oh yeah, their pipeline.

Will Johnson: They open up their pipeline. So, Russia is one of the biggest exporters in that region of the world to many countries, including Europe. And guess what? I guess the O’Biden administration was like; you need to be feeding us oil. Putin is saying, no – you stupid Americans.

Give me some more vodka. I’m telling you, and now Biden has literally destroyed America. The Democrats are saying, you know what? I don’t care as long as we don’t have Trump in there. That’s what they are literally saying. Anyways, what an amazing show.

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Democrats Struggling While Imploding From Within



Will and Channon talk about how the Democrats are struggling while they implode from within their own party.

Will Johnson: Hello, everybody. Thank you for being with us. What is today? February 3rd, 2022. What happened to January? Did you see January?

Channon: What happened to 2021?

Will Johnson: That’s even better. What happened to 2021? Where’s the year 2022? Thank you. Wow, for real. It’s like, yep, yep, we’re gone, we’re out.

Channon: I don’t know, but Will, what do you think about how Joe Biden started 2022?

Will Johnson: Oh, my goodness. That’s a good question. How did Joe Biden start 2022? Down the drain. I mean, he’s part of the swamp. So, it’s like the swamp creature stirring up, moving around in the swamp, and making it gooier than anything.

Channon: Like today, what was the top story? The top story was what? The ISIS Leader was suicided.

Will Johnson: He was suicided, and the O’Biden administration took credit for a suicide bomber suiciding himself.

Channon: Yeah, he was killed, which I guess was the objective. I guess they were going to go in and either capture or kill him.

Will Johnson: Apparently, it was a three-story building. They went to the building, and they got on the loud horn telling them to come out peacefully, surrender, surrender, surrender. Well, the ISIS leader decided not to surrender himself or his family.

When they came in and tried to get him to apprehend him, he blew himself up along with his family. So, the Biden administration is now acting like, look what we did, Russia. Basically, that is what he’s saying. Look what we did, Russia. We got this terrorist.

So, don’t mess with us. I’m willing to bet Vladimir Putin is going, ha ha stupid, Biden. You scare me, not. Give me more vodka. (laughing)

Channon: Vodka, vodka, vodka. (laughing)

Will Johnson: Yap, give me more vodka. Come on, vodka anyways, if this is your first time listening. Do me a favor. Get out your mobile device, send me a text to 88202, and just type my name in, W-I-L-L.

You get alerts when we do this radio broadcast, as well as information from the American Truth Project, which is the sponsor of this radio broadcast that you’re listening to right now.

On top of that, we will be taking your phone calls. On this radio broadcast, you get to speak freely. We get to talk about the vaccines. We get to talk about unlawful mandates. We get to talk about whatever we want to talk about because freedom of speech exists on this radio broadcast.

We just ask that you keep your profanity to yourself, and we’ll be all good. We could go ahead and finish talking about the O’Biden administration going in and taking out an ISIS top leader. The only reason why he’s doing this, in my personal opinion, is he wants Russia and the rest of the world to be like, oh, look what Biden did.

He’s so strong against terrorism. If he were really strong against terrorism, he would have stayed in Afghanistan and told the terrorists, hey; you’re not going to do this. You’re not going to destroy this nation. You’re not going to destroy what we have built up here over the years.

We’re going to gradually make this transition happen, and we’re going to have military troops here, so that way you will stay in your place and not terrorize people. But he didn’t do that.

Channon: Biden has a poor reputation. He is seen as weak, not only here in America but worldwide. The world leaders are not afraid of Biden, and you see that. We recognize how America is treated and how world chaos is unraveling by leaders that have been in power in America.

When Trump was in power, he was very powerful. When he said something, he meant it. Other leaders saw that and recognized it. They saw it as a threat. So, they didn’t mess around with Trump. They stayed quiet. They waited it out. They knew their time was coming right. Now they have Biden, and they’re like, he’s not going to do anything.

He’s weak. They don’t see him as a threat. They don’t see America as a threat anymore, and that is very dangerous, people. Here Biden steps in, and he’s like, I’m going to get the ISIS leader. I’m going to show you. You know what? As you said, Will, Putin is like, whatever.

Will Johnson: The Biden administration is almost side by side and holding hands with China. When it comes to China, it’s like a completely different scenario. Like, we don’t care type deal, or China gets to run them because I think personally, on a personal note. China owns the Bidens.

China owns them, so because of that, that’s why they’re not saying anything. The O’Biden administration is trying to act like, oh my goodness, Russia is being aggressive right now. They’re all mounting on the Ukraine border. We have to protect them, yet they ignore the border of the United States of America.

Why is the border of Ukraine more important than the border of the United States of America? There have been known terrorists come across the border here, but they don’t want to shut that down. They were happy to go to Afghanistan, or anywhere else they think ISIS is and say, oh, look what we did.

Channon: It’s crazy, and it’s being reported that Putin has now maneuvered more troops to the Ukraine border than he has maneuver troops since the Cold War. This is serious. He’s not playing around and, you know, all these little talks that Biden’s trying to have.

Apparently, they do not have a very strong impact. The people in Ukraine don’t understand themselves. They are like, what is happening? Why are we being invaded, or why does Russia want to invade us? I’m going to tell you why, because nobody is there to stop them.

Will Johnson: No one is there to stop them. President Trump put more sanctions on Russia than any other president in the history of this nation, and they’re trying to say that President Trump wasn’t tough on Putin.

They even go as far as trying to say that President Trump was kissing the ring of Putin was the reason why Putin wasn’t aggressive towards Ukraine when he was in office. Now, Biden, as weak as he is, people are calling him out for his weakness. People here in the United States of America and elsewhere call him out for his weakness.

Channon: Yeah, Putin could have done this two to three years ago.

Will Johnson: Absolutely. He could have done this when the Demon-crats shut down America at the end of President Trump’s term. You remember. The whole plan-demic came about. Putin could have done it then, but he didn’t.

Channon: Nope, he’s not scared. Hey, Will, we have a caller. We have Dawson, from Utah.

Will Johnson: Hey, Dawson, thank you so much for the call.

Dawson: Hi, how are you guys doing.

Channon: All right.

Will Johnson: All right. Happy Thursday to you.

Dawson: Will, I just found out for my summer job that I have to get a dose of the dumb vaccine.

Will Johnson: Wow, so your summer job tells you that you have to get the vaccine. Don’t tell us the name of the company unless you want to, but what field is it? What is the job?

Dawson: It’s a government job. It’s at a military base. It’s like around the Dugway area.

Channon: So, now they’re saying that the military is starting to release people off duty for not being vaccinated.

Will Johnson: I take it you are a contractor.

Dawson: Yeah.

Channon: How do you feel about that vs. countries like Sweden and the U.K. have lifted all their mandates off. There’s freedom in those countries. How do you feel about that when this hits you in the face?

Dawson: It just sucks, you know, because I’m not going to tell people whether they want to get it or not, but I truly do not want it because I just feel like it’s a precursor to the mark of the beast. Like the Mormon church has even said, they have not come out against Biden. They said the vaccine is fine, but I obviously disagree with the prophet on that side of that.

Channon: Are you Mormon?

Dawson: Yes, I am.

Channon: Okay.

Will Johnson: He’s called into my nightly broadcast a couple of times, and we’ve had a discussion about it because of Mitt Romney and stuff. Dawson is pretty awesome. He’s the youth that I love to see that recognizes what’s going on and does not follow it off track.

Channon: It’s unfortunate when you know your church pushes a political agenda. That is frustrating.

Will Johnson: Channon, she’s Catholic, so… (laughing)

Channon: No, I’m not, but this doesn’t matter. You have all types of pastors and religions coming out saying nothing is wrong with it.

Will Johnson: It’s all across the board. It’s not just the Mormons because we can’t sit there and be picking on Mormons.

Channon: No, I am not picking on them.

Will Johnson: Because it’s all across the board. You have people that call themselves Christians. People call themselves Mormon. People call themselves Catholic. People call themselves all different religions. They’re all saying that this vaccine is good, and we should just embrace it.

I played a video the other day. I don’t know if you saw it. I had to play it when I go on live with the guys. I played it, and there was a pastor on there saying, you love your neighbor if you get the vaccine, which is completely insane.

Dawson: Crazy.

Channon: I can’t even imagine how that makes you, personally, feel. It almost becomes a battle within yourself because this is my religion. This is where I get my thought basis, my faith.

Then all of a sudden, they’re pushing this mandate on you that you so strongly don’t believe and goes against what you believe. It’s frustrating, and now you have your job saying they are going to let to go.

Dawson: You know what the good thing is, though. So, I’m still in college right now. So, this isn’t my career. This is just like a summer job, obviously. I just had to get one dose, and I’ll never have to get it again because I’m going into a BWR officer.

So, after this year, I’ll be able to work with the BWR, and they do not require the vaccine at all. So, this is the last. This is the only time I’ll have to get one dose. Never have to do it again.

Will Johnson: So, are you going to get the dose?

Dawson: Yeah, I have to for the job. I’ve been fighting it off for so long. I’ve done everything I can. I’ve tried to get religious exemptions. I’ve tried to get exemptions, and I haven’t been able to.

Channon: You know, this is exactly what it is about.

Dawson: I’m in college. I can’t afford not to have a job. It sucks.

Channon: Well, you can get a job in other places, but you want this particular job. Let’s be honest. The thing is, that is what the mark of the beast is going to do.

It’s going to push you to make that type of a decision, and people are going to say, well, I have to. You really don’t have to. It’s still a personal decision, but it’s almost where your faith in that cross is at.

Will Johnson: Yeah, it sucks. You’re not alone.

Channon: No, you are not.

Will Johnson: What is the deadline for it?

Dawson: I just have to get it before starting the job because I’m in college right now, so I haven’t started it back up yet.

Will Johnson: My question is, when do you start? May?

Dawson: Yeah, so May. Maybe they’ll change their policy, but I just asked my boss.

Will Johnson: Maybe you can look for employment elsewhere. I would not take that off the table first.

Channon: Well, you definitely have some praying to do, Dawson.

Dawson: Obviously, I’m just not for the vaccine. I wake up every single day terrified. I don’t believe that the vaccine is the mark of the beast. I think it’s a precursor. I think you’d probably agree with me on that. I don’t know if you agree.

Will Johnson: Yes, I do.

Dawson: I’ve been standing up, and I’ve been saying no to it. I’ve had people telling me that I need to get it. I’ve had professors that preach the vaccine and stuff like that, saying that it goes along with religious beliefs and stuff. I’ve stood up against it and stuff like that. I’m going to continue to do that because I just don’t believe in it.

Channon: We compromise ourselves, though when we go ahead and do what we say we are against, you and millions of people. We’re not putting this on you, Dawson. It’s a tough situation. I do not take anything away from it. If you decide to get it, I hope you’re okay. You, being a young man. It seems to affect more than others.

Will Johnson: Yeah, some of the horror stories that come out of it.

Dawson: Yeah, that is scary.

Will Johnson: I would suggest maybe, if you can, if you have the time to try to see if you can find employment elsewhere, in the meantime.

Dawson: I’m going to try to do everything I can, even just to get a religious exemption.

Channon: Yeah.

Will Johnson: Yeah, absolutely.

Channon: All right, thanks for the call.

Will Johnson: Well, hey, thanks so much for the call, Dawson.

Dawson: Okay, see you.

Will Johnson: Take care.

Channon: All right. Hey, Will, we have another caller. We have Virginia, from Maryland,

Will Johnson: Virginia from Maryland.

Channon: Yeah. We remember her.

Will Johnson: Hey, Virginia. Thank you so much for the call.

Virginia: I used to work in Virginia. They would say, Virginia, from Virginia. So, I had to move to Maryland. I had two things that came up, and they’re kind of huge. One, I’ve been researching the coronavirus and what all these other doctors are saying about it.

There’s a class-action suit. I think it’s 30 doctors, and what they’re doing is they are saying that they know there are manmade components in the virus. What happened was it leaked out faster than they wanted it to, so that’s why all this stuff has blown up.

That’s why we’re getting more truth because they were going to wait a little while longer before they put the coronavirus out because of some errors. It made it worse for them, which is kind of good for us. Even though these people need to be made accountable for what they would have done, it’s frustrating because you hear that, but you don’t see it anywhere.

You have to go to these sites that are not the big TV stations. The other thing I heard, and that was just today, is that there’s a lot of documentation on Trump for the insurrection and all that other stuff. It’s the first time I’ve ever heard that.

I didn’t know if you had any insight into that as they’re showing emails and stuff like that. That he was trying to get something going because I think that would throw a lot of people off if that is true.

Channon: Fox News is reporting that. Well, maybe it wasn’t Fox News.

Will Johnson: To my understanding, what that is is that President Trump was in communication with Republicans, asking them if they could do the right thing on January 6th. He wanted Mike Pence to do the right thing at the same time, but see the liberal media, they get that, and they twist it and say that President Trump was trying to do a coup d’état.

He was the sitting President. There is no coup d’état. Other than the coup d’état that the left did because the blatant cheating and stuff they did were all in our faces. There are videos, documentation, and even eyewitness reports about all of the massive fraudulent stuff that took place during the 2020 election.

They want to ignore it by saying that, well, even though some of it happened, it wasn’t enough to change the outcome of the election, which is false. The reason why they say that it wasn’t enough so that then you will stop looking at it to find out all of the information that took place.

So, yeah, President Trump was in communication with people asking them to do the right thing. That’s all. Not a single time, President Trump came out and said, look, we need to overturn this or change the outcome of the election. President Trump just wanted the right thing done. So, yeah, there was communication, but they’re going to twist it and say President Trump was trying to change the election.

Channon: That’s the thing that’s bothersome. They take this stuff, and they want to use it against them because it changes the narrative. Just like they come up with parodies and stuff like that of something that wasn’t really said.

They twist it. Having a different ulterior motive when there wasn’t a different ulterior motive and that’s what frustrates Trump because they’re going to twist it. Then people are ignorant to believe. Just like people think there’s Russia collusion. I’m like; the lower courts said there wasn’t Russian collusion.

Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America: Russia, Russia, Russia.

Channon: They did say that Russia tried to get, you know, do things with our election, but they do every single election. They do the same thing.

Will Johnson: We meddle in other countries’ elections too.

Channon: So, I don’t think Trump is guilty of any wrongdoing. I think he is just tired of them bringing up stuff and twisting it. That’s my take.

Will Johnson: What do you think? Are you there, Virginia?

Virginia: The people counting the votes signed a document saying they would go to jail if they were lying. So, why don’t they listen to that? That, to me, blows my mind. These people are putting their life on the line for our country, and nobody is looking at that saying, wait a minute, that’s a mother who has kids. She doesn’t want to go to jail. I don’t get that.

Channon: We are disconnected from the truth. We’re so used to having all these wrongful conspiracy theories, which I hate to say even the idea that Trump has something to do with the January 6th event; I think it is a conspiracy theory. The left is full of conspiracy theories.

Will Johnson: It is 100% conspiracy theory. President Trump kept saying be peaceful and peaceful. He kept saying that.

Channon: We talked to liberals, and you tell them the truth. They almost look like… what do they look like, Will?

Will Johnson: They get this gloss over their eyes like, I don’t know what you are saying. It doesn’t comprehend, or they’ll say that’s your truth.

Channon: Yeah, that’s ridiculous.

Will Johnson: It’s the most insane thing. That’s your truth.

Channon: I think we continue to support Trump. He’s not a perfect man by any means, but I’ll tell you what. He did a lot more for this country than Biden has the whole time he’s been in office or Obama before that.

Will Johnson: And there’s a lot of people right now wanting President Trump to come back, even Democrats.

Virginia: What about the virus and all these doctors that are putting together these class-action suits? What they’re saying is it’s the big companies like ten big companies that pulled this together to pull it off. It wasn’t supposed to happen until 2030, but somebody screwed up, and it happened in 2020. So, I’ve been digging a lot, and have you guys heard anything about that?

Will Johnson: Yes, there’s a group of doctors out of Houston that I’m aware of that are doing class action lawsuits, and they made it clear saying, we’re not doing this for gain or money or anything like that. We’re doing this because we want the truth to get out.

When you have tech companies like Twitter, Facistsbook, Google, and YouTube removing doctors, I can’t remember the one doctor’s name that discovered mRNA. He went out there and said, look, this vaccine is not what they’re telling you.

There’s something sinister behind this because it’s not doing what they tell you it’s going to do. They took him down. They shut him up, and he came up with it. He discovered it. So, why are they censoring doctors, but they’re allowing some doctors, you know, the doctors that are pushing it.

There are doctors with these lawsuits simply to get the truth to come out, but they’re going to try to silence him as much as possible. The scary thing is, they might start trying to suicide them.

Virginia: Yeah.

Channon: Anyways, thanks for the call, Virginia.

Will Johnson: Thanks, Virginia. Thank you so much.

Virginia: Sure. Take care.

Will Johnson: All right, thank care.

Channon: Will, we have another caller. We have Rebecca from Tennessee.

Will Johnson: Hey, Rebecca, thank you so much for the call.

Rebecca: How are you all?

Will Johnson: Great.

Channon: Doing good.

Rebecca: Just listening to you prior, earlier in this broadcast. You’re just talking about the vaccine and how it might not work. I have to say. I know three or four people that have had two doses and the booster and still somehow come home sick with COVID.

Channon: Well, that’s not true, according to Rachel Maddow. She says that it stops the coronavirus in its tracks.

Will Johnson: Yeah, I’m along with Biden. He’s mentioned that before, too, that as long as you get the vaccines, you don’t have to worry about getting sick.

Channon: You know the sad thing, Rebecca. Haven’t you heard people say, now people get the vaccine, then the boosters, and then they say the…

Will Johnson: Variants.

Channon: Yeah, they’ll say there are variants, or say, well, it’s not 100%, like it’s okay. It is okay that we got it.

Rebecca: Or they say it just means that I didn’t get it as bad because I got the vaccine. You know, crap like that.

Channon: It’s a bunch of crap because people are dying and hospitalized that have the vaccine too, but if you get sick or hospitalized and you’re not vaccinated. Why is it? Because you didn’t get vaccinated. It’s ridiculous.

Will Johnson: Exactly. Or when they show someone that has passed away, but at least they were fully vaccinated.

Rebecca: Here in Tennessee, God bless Tennessee and our governor, Bill Lee. I just love him. There are no mandates in Tennessee. There has never been a mask mandate in Tennessee. I asked my doctor. I was just there last week. I asked her about the vaccine, and I said, do they make you guys get it? And she said no.

She said they weren’t forced to get it, but if they had come in contact with somebody with COVID, they were sent home for 14 days, in quarantine, with no pay.

Channon: That makes sense; oh, without pay, that sucks. That’s punishing them because someone else was sick, because here’s the thing. Tell me this if they were vaccinated and got in contact with somebody. Would they quarantine for 14 days without pay as well?

Rebecca: Yeah. It’s ridiculous. It doesn’t make sense because COVID, this new variant, I believe, is the common cold, this Omicron. Before COVID came out, a version of COVID had always been in the common cold. Not 19, of course, but… I think that’s what they’re talking about now.

Channon: You have the United Kingdom that has removed all mandates. Everybody is back to normal. I think Sweden has done the same thing now. Other countries are lifting.

Will Johnson: They are going back to living.

Channon: They’re saying, this isn’t that bad. It’s curious to me why in America, we’re still saying all these people died of COVID-19, which now there are people coming out, going, wait a minute, we need to look at this.

Are these people really dying of COVID-19, or is it something else? Because why is this not happening in other countries? It’s happening in the greatest country in the world, America. Come on. Something is going on here.

Will Johnson: It’s clear what’s going on because you have someone like Joe Rogan that will bring people on, like Jordan Peterson, to talk about it, even acknowledged that when they get someone to come into the hospital and they get eaten by a shark.

They found their arm they put him down as a COVID death. It’s because the hospitals are getting money. They’re getting paid money under the table. It’s all about this agenda. It’s bizarre, and it’s crazy.

Rebecca: As far as the other gentleman in the military, the deadline was back in November for all military personnel to be vaccinated. My son-in-law is a marine, and he was not very happy about it.

Channon: I don’t think he is military. Is the military?

Will Johnson: To my understanding, he’s a contractor, but they’re pushing this tyranny onto not just military personnel but to contractors as well. Anyone who has any dealings with the government. So, the government is pushing its agenda.

Rebecca: The problem is, they don’t just get let go. They get a dishonorable discharge. I don’t know many people who understand that and the ramifications for the rest of your life. To be dishonorably discharged from the military. So, there are the choices.

Will Johnson: They do it to try to make it, so you don’t have a choice. Once you do this, you’re going to destroy your life.

Rebecca: Exactly, and he wasn’t happy about it. Our family is not for the vaccine. We don’t want to go anywhere near it. Another thing is it seems like the Republicans and Trump are synonymous. They automatically assume a Republican is true in all cases, but Trump was a badass.

These other countries didn’t act out when he was President because he went and he visited them. He had authority, and he wasn’t kissing Putin’s ring. Basically, Putin was kissing something else of Trump’s. These countries didn’t misbehave the way they are now. He went to all these countries. He went to North Korea. No other leader has done that.

Channon: He sure did.

Rebecca: I bet Biden’s little butt won’t be going there.

Channon: He can’t even make it to our border. Are you kidding me?

Will Johnson: We can’t even make it off the stage without Jill holding his hand. (laughing)

Channon: He had to have this whole fake set to do a press conference. Come on. He’s weak, in my opinion. Yeah, not all Republicans align completely with Trump. I think Trump was something different, though. He had conservative values, so he aligned mostly with Republicans, but I think he was just about America first. Whatever that means is what it means.

I think people lump him with Republican, and he called himself Republican because that’s where those values align with America First. You have Democrats that go, well, I don’t completely align with Biden. Well, you voted for him, so you’re with him. It’s tough here in America. The sad thing is we want to label everybody and everything. Most of that has come from the left. They’ve almost forced us to identify people by color, sex, class, all kinds of things. Anyway, that’s just where we’re at, unfortunately.

Rebecca: Trump has always had an authoritarian personality. Everybody who’s ever known Trump in the past with this business dealings, and even on his reality show, he’s very authoritative.

Channon: I know. I worked in a position where I met executives of a company, and let me tell you, a lot of them are like Trump. You constantly validate who you are. You validate your accomplishments. You have to do all these things in the business world, so he just took those and brought them into the oval office. He also said I’m here for everybody, and more than Biden, he brought companies together to help make America better.

He brought them to Washington, D.C., when COVID first hit. How can we get certain PPE? How do we do this? How do we do that? People start manufacturing things that they never manufactured before.

So, it wasn’t just about him, which authoritative people usually are, but I know what you’re saying. He does have a personality where he’s like, I want to take charge. I want to make things better. Biden is not a take-charge person. He’s a nervous person, unfortunately. Anyway, thanks for the call.

Will Johnson: And Trump’s not a politician. Well, hey, thank you so much for the call. Okay.

Rebecca: Yeah, you guys have a great day.

Channon: You, too.

Will Johnson: You too. Thank you.

Channon: You know Will, the title of this broadcast is the Democrats are imploding, and they’re turning on each other.

Will Johnson: The Communist News Network CNN. We’ve seen them even with Whoopi Goldberg, a.k.a. real name Karen Johnson. She’s the real Karen. Will the real Karen please stand up?

Channon: Will found out her name’s Karen.

Will Johnson: Oh yeah. Her actual name is Karen.

Channon: There’s no Whoopi about her.

Will Johnson: I’m not related to her. Okay, let’s make sure we get that straight. Let’s make sure we get that out there. I’m like, man, couldn’t it have just been Jones, Karen Jones, but no, it’s Karen Johnson.

She’s the original Karen, talking about Whoopi Goldberg, Whoopi-do, and she’s upset with ABC because they suspended her. It’s two weeks paid vacation.

Channon: People are like, oh, Whoopi has been canceled. I’m like, no, she’s not. She’s suspended, but do we want her canceled, Will?

Will Johnson: Yes, because she’s hateful. She’s a hateful, despicable, nasty person and racist-all of those things.

Channon: I think we should have the freedom to decipher. I think she should have the freedom to say the wrong things and still be there. That’s what they say about conservatives. Everything you just said is why they are canceling us.

I think it’s wrong to do that, but I am glad people call her out on her wrong statement. Now, if she, herself, which she has said, is thinking about quitting the view, that’s perfect. That would be great. That’s what should happen, and maybe they would have even less viewership.

Will Johnson: I agree that people should have freedom of speech and should be able to say what they want to say.

Channon: No, you don’t.

Will Johnson: Let me finish. Calm down.

Channon: You are lying.

Will Johnson: People should be able to have it, but when she’s called for the cancelation of other people because of stuff that was less than what she did, it should go back on her. She should lead by example. The reason why I say that is because they are the ones constantly calling for people to be canceled.

Channon: That’s why you are saying that.

Will Johnson: That’s the only reason I’m saying it, but if they were not calling, constantly for people to be canceled, then I’d be like, let her say it. We don’t have to listen to her. That’s my whole thing.

Channon: Basically, you want her to suffer from her own medicine.

Will Johnson: If you’re calling for the cancelation of other people, and you do something, then it should happen to you. Now, if you’re calling for freedom of speech for everybody, even when you don’t like it, then you should allow freedom of speech for everybody but her and the rest of these progressives, evil leftists, they don’t do that.

They want to cancel everybody. Look what they’re doing to Joe Rogan and Spotify. Good on Spotify for saying we’re not going to remove Joe Rogan. There’s no need to because he’s saying what he wants to say.

He brings experts on, but you have the Communist News Network. They don’t believe that Joe Rogan brings any experts on, but Joe Rogan himself even said that he’s going to bring on people that have different views.

Channon: Well, he said that now, after the whole controversy. He said he would work more to have people on of a different opinion.

Will Johnson: Even the communist news network is not happy with that.

Channon: Well, they don’t do that.

Will Johnson: The reason they want to cancel Joe Rogan, in my personal opinion, I haven’t seen the numbers. Joe Rogan gets more views in one week than CNN does in a year, especially after losing 90% of their viewership in January. I mean, come on.

Channon: Rogan gets 11 million viewers a day.

Will Johnson: That’s just on Spotify.

Channon: On Spotify.

Will Johnson: That’s just Spotify. That doesn’t include YouTube. That doesn’t include other platforms that he’s on. That’s just Spotify, 11 million views a day. He’s killing them, and they don’t like it. People are tuning in to hear what Joe Rogan has to say and his guest. They don’t like it.

Channon: I think it’s frustrating. The Democrats are all over the place because Rogan is literally a Democrat, yet he has different opinions.

Will Johnson: I think he’s more libertarian. Then he calls himself a Democrat. To my understanding, he’s more libertarian. So, he’s more like people should have freedom, but the way they’re attacking him. They’re going to turn him into a straight-up hardcore conservative. (laughing)

Channon: I think that’s true. (laughing) I think that is what they are doing. Then you have Whoopi Goldberg, that makes completely terrible wrong comments about the Holocaust was not about race, which it was all about race. Yet people are still supporting her.

You had Don Lemon. Don Lemon said that you should support her, and we shouldn’t cancel people just because we don’t agree with them. Yet, Don Lemon is the first to cancel people who don’t think like him.

Will Johnson: Exactly my point. Put a nail in the coffin on that one.

Channon: Once again, you have to take your own medicine. I get what you’re saying.

Will Johnson: Exactly my point.

Channon: In the bigger scheme of things, we want them to have a voice because we want to keep our voice, but I do want them to get called out on it.

Will Johnson: They need to be.

Channon: I don’t think they get called out enough.

Will Johnson: So, just imagine this. Places like Facebook or whatever, and you post stuff on your own social media. The big tech companies are not supposed to be censoring people. For everyone out there listening, they’re not supposed to be because why? Section 230.

These tech companies made an agreement with the government that they would not hinder people’s free speech, and the tech companies said, okay. That way, if someone posts something on their platform, then tech companies are not held accountable.

Well, what’s happened is these tech companies found a loophole and went around it. They said we’ll get third-party fake fact-checkers to check everyone’s post they’re putting out there. They check memes that are just jokes. They say, look, this is not actual, not factual. Ping!

Channon: Then they also admitted that fact-checkers have opinions about some of the content, and they’re fact-checking them based on their opinion. That’s crazy.

Will Johnson: This is so crazy.

Channon: Just a little bit of information about Facebook.

Will Johnson: It is hurting Facebook.

Channon: It sure is.

Will Johnson: It’s hurting them.

Channon: Today, their stock plummeted 26%. The biggest drop ever since 2018. They’re saying. What was it? JPMorgan downgraded their stock because they have been doing poorly. They dropped. Also, they’re saying every week they are losing about 500,000 viewers less than they used to have this time last year.

Will Johnson: Viewers, subscribers, or people on hand?

Channon: It said, viewers.

Will Johnson: They have Facebook Watch, so it may be viewers. A lot of people are not coming in and looking at the videos and stuff.

Channon: You are right. I’m not sure.

Will Johnson: If anyone’s out there listening right now, and you happen to be working at Facebook. Please don’t turn into CNN because CNN is crushing itself. They’re imploding.

Channon: Oh, I think Facebook is.

Will Johnson: Facebook with all the censorship, and I can see this right now. They’re going to come back and say, well, the reason why this is happening, and the reason why JPMorgan probably did this is they’re allowing conservatives to have a point of view on Facebook.

You need to censor more conservatives on Facebook. It’s really stupid. If Facebook really wanted to go ahead and continue to thrive. You know, Facebook could soar even more if they stopped with all of this anti-American, anti-God, anti-freedom rhetoric they’re pushing.

Channon: That’s going to our point of the name of this broadcast where they’re imploding themselves. They are directly hurting themselves, and they’re falling apart. Look at BLM. This week, today, they had to take away all their donating platforms because there’s no accountability for their money. There’s nobody there accounting for it. Now, they have questionable things that have happened.

Will Johnson: They need to follow the money trail because a lot of that money went to a certain Demon-crat party.

Channon: So, here they are, they say we’re all about Black Lives Matter, but listen, their intentions were not good. Their intentions were not to help the people-the same thing with CNN. Guess what? They’re imploding. They aren’t good people, which now we see. They have pedophilia. They’re having inappropriate sexual relations.

Will Johnson: Sexual assault against women.

Channon: They’ve become so opinionated and less about the news that their views are just dumping. So, people are leaving.

Will Johnson: They were already hurting in January this year, 90% from last year, 90% people! You know what that says for a major network that has a lot of people working for them.

Channon: And look at Biden and the Democrats on Capitol Hill. They are not what the people want, and they still don’t see it. So, everything they’re doing is falling apart, and the people in the country are going; what are they doing? They’re not listening to the people. They are not following what the people want to do. It’s crazy.

Will Johnson: Because they’re out of touch. There are 100% out of touch. They still can’t realize all the stuff that they’re doing. They are just thinking it in their mind. Why is this happening? Oh, my goodness. Why is this happening? How do we change this? How do we fix this? Stop lying! Stop pushing a propaganda machine! Stop doing it. It’s really simple.

Channon: Biden goes to New York City to talk about the police, which he did not go to the two fallen police officer’s funeral.

Will Johnson: He rejected them.

Channon: That was such a missed opportunity by him to cross the aisle and show support for the police, which he says he does. To me, that right there demonstrated he does not support them, but here’s the thing. Now, he goes there, and you know what he talks about more than anything?

Will Johnson: Gun control, we need to stop you from being able to protect yourself. American people, you don’t need to protect yourself. Why? Because we want to implement communism in America. Then we want to come in and slaughter all of you.

Channon: He misses the point in talking about the criminals and how to stop crime. He makes it all about gun control. It’s really sad and pathetic. Once again, they’re so detached from what people are saying, what they want and what they need.

Will Johnson: Yeah, it’s just like the story that they were talking about the young lady getting killed on the subway because she was pushed in front of one of the subway trains.

Channon: It had nothing to do with a gun.

Will Johnson: It had nothing to do with a gun. Nota, zero, zip, but you know what? The way to fix this is to take the capability away from you from protecting yourself. You do that; then we can stop all the violence-total insanity. So, let me play something here because this is Joe Rogan when he’s on there, and he’s talking about how he wants to bring more people on.

I want you all to listen to how CNN doesn’t like Joe Rogan and just listen to how they tried to talk it up like you should listen to them over Joe Rogan. Listen to this.

Brian Stelter, News Anchor on CNN: The narrative is, I want to show all kinds of opinions. Which sounds great, but not all opinions are created equal. You think about major newsrooms like CNN that have health departments, deaths, and operations that work hard on verifying information on COVID-19.

Channon: No, they don’t know.

Will Johnson: It’s so crazy. Did you hear this?

Channon: This is sad because it’s so obvious that they do not do that. It is more obvious that Joe Rogan works harder and wants to have a different opinion come on and talk to him. He’s not afraid of it. CNN is afraid that anybody will go against their narrative. He’s totally lying.

Will Johnson: You know, CNN would never allow me to go on their network. They’re terrified of me. I would take the challenge.

Brian Stelter, News Anchor on CNN: Then you have talk show stars like Joe Rogan, who just wing it, who makes it up as they go along.

Will Johnson: Isn’t that what CNN has been doing? They just wing it and make it up as they go along.

Channon: They sure do. All they do is they have these little roundtable opinions. Everybody comes up with their own random opinion. Will, I’ve watched them, and I go where’s your facts? They don’t bring any facts. Where’s your proof? They don’t show any proof.

Will Johnson: No, not at all.

Brian Stelter, News Anchor on CNN: And because figures like Rogan are trusted by people that don’t trust real newsrooms. We have tension, a problem that’s much bigger than Spotify. Much bigger than any single platform, Kate, but that’s at the heart of this right now.

Will Johnson: The heart of this is that Joe Rogan is killing our ratings. He’s killing us. The people are tuning in to him, and not us. People need to know that we should be trusted, not just Rogan.

Channon: That is exactly what I’m talking about; they struggle because people see the truth. They’re seeing that they’re full of crap, not about facts, and they try to tell you they are, but when your ratings are plummeting. There’s a reason why people don’t find any truth in what you’re saying.

Will Johnson: They can’t figure it out. It’s almost like they know, but they’re so caught up in themselves they can’t even accept or want to continue to reject the idea that they did something wrong. They continue to go on and say, you know what? It can’t be us because, in our minds, we’re doing everything right.

There’s nothing that we’re doing wrong. I’m serious. That’s what they’re saying. Last night I was doing a broadcast, and while I was doing my broadcast, the producer of my nightly broadcast sent me a message and said… What’s his name?

The CEO of CNN, Zucker. He didn’t step down because of sexual assault, but it remains to be seen. Now, the relationship supposedly that he had, a legit relationship. It was with another young lady at CNN.

Channon: He’s not supposed to according to their contracts.

Will Johnson: He’s not supposed to according to the ethics and everything else because she got perks over other people. So, he stepped down, and the only reason I think he stepped down is because of the Cuomo brothers. Chris Cuomo is like, where’s my money? Not only do I want my severance pay. I want hush money.

Channon: That’s the sad thing. These people know what’s going on in their newsroom. They’re not naïve, but they hide. The Democrats are so good about that. They are so good about hiding skeletons in the closet. They are like; there’s no closet over there. There are just skeletons over there.

Will Johnson: You know, it is? Demons will protect demons.

Channon: They’re hypocrites.

Will Johnson: So, listen to Brian Stelter as he talks about Chris Cuomo. Listen to this. This is amazing.

Brian Stelter, News Anchor on CNN: The Chris Cuomo reference, Cuomo was fired in December, and he is not going out quietly. He was fired, and there were reports that he wasn’t going to get paid the millions of dollars that were going to be on the remainder of his contract. So, the source said to me earlier today he was trying to burn the place down.

He was going to court, trying to burn the place down, and claiming that he had incriminating information about Zucker and Gollust. So, if that’s the case, this is a domino effect that begins with Andrew Cuomo going down the governor’s office. Then Chris Cuomo was fired from CNN, and then Jeff Zucker lost his job at CNN. That is a remarkable domino effect of the chain of events. I think that is part of the story.

Channon: Yeah, and the producers are being exposed for having pedophilia relationships. How come all this came out afterward? There are more skeletons in the closet. I don’t think we’re done.

Will Johnson: When it first came out, Chris Cuomo was let go and come to find out his producer; it was known, like four months ago, that his producer was in this whole sting with him soliciting sex from minors. Seriously, it was like four months ago, and then they went ahead and arrested him.

You got to let him go because of what’s happening with Chris Cuomo, and besides that, the show is gone. We don’t need him anymore. Then after that, a week later, another producer from another show, another pedophile, and for them to not know it was going on. They all knew what was going on, just like they knew what was going on with Chris Cuomo. They knew what was going on with Zucker.

Channon: Let me ask you this. What would happen if this was a conservative outlet?

Will Johnson: Oh, my goodness.

Channon: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my god.

Will Johnson: Oh, my goodness. They would be saying that they needed to be taken off the air.

Channon: I can’t even imagine the madness that would happen, but these guys are sitting in the newsroom like they are laughing at their own news channel. They’re like, this is an amazing domino effect. I’m going, what? Do you even hear yourself?

Like it’s no big deal. Oh my gosh, this is all because of Chris Cuomo and Andrew Cuomo. No, I hate to tell you it’s because the people there have no ethics. They’ve all done inappropriate and wrong things, and it’s just being exposed. They fall in on each other.

They go, oh, you, and you. I can’t even imagine. When Kamala Harris goes out, I can’t even imagine what’s going to come out about her. I think right now, everything’s hush-hush, but she just lost another person in her group yesterday.

Will Johnson: Really? So, someone else left her administration?

Channon: Yes, another staffer has left. It’s crazy.

Will Johnson: I’ve heard no one likes to be around her because she’s probably swinging that broom around.

Channon: Her name is Kate Graham. She’s the chief speechwriter for Kamala Harris. That’s pretty bad.

Will Johnson: When did she write any speeches for Kamala Harris? Did you write anything about the border?

Channon: I don’t know.

Will Johnson: She probably didn’t need her. It’s crazy. Anyway, I want to play something here before running out of time. The liberal media would all love for us to believe that they know what’s best for us. They would love for us to believe that they are telling us the truth.

They would love for us to believe that they are the ones that we should only listen to. I want to play something for you. This is from MSDNC, and listen to what this lady says. Just listening to what she says here because what she says will just… Let me just play it, and then we’ll talk about it real quick.

Rachel Maddow, News Anchor on MSNBC: Person to person to person, potentially mutating, and becoming more virulent and drug-resistant along the way. Now, we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.

A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. The virus does not infect them. The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. That means the vaccines will get us to the end of this. If we just go fast enough.

Channon: That’s fake news. That was from a while ago, but the fact that she said it.

Will Johnson: She never comes back and says, you know what? I apologize because I put out disinformation, misinformation and I misled the people that watched my broadcast. Did she ever do that? No, and where are the fake fact-checkers?

Oh, wait a minute, it’s okay when you put out false information, but actual information. That’s when the fake fact-checkers will ping you. Ask me how I know.

Channon: How do you know, Will?

Will Johnson: Because they’ve done it to me?

Channon: Are you sure they did that?

Will Johnson: 100%, I had a YouTube channel with over 100,000 people on it, and YouTube said, yeah, you know what? You’re telling too much truth here. We’re going to ax you. Delete! They deleted my channel because I told the truth. It’s amazing. You would think because they say they want to promote black people. (laughing)

So, I got one more story that I want to tell before we go here. This past Tuesday, I went on a family trip to San Antonio, Texas. While we were down in San Antonio, Texas, the family went to dinner. Anyways, on the way back home, it’s dark, it’s late about, and I guess it is about 9:00, 9:30 somewhere around there.

We’re driving back home, and of course, I’m kind of going with the traffic. I am speeding, but so is the other traffic. I’m just going along, but with all of that said, I get pulled over by the cops. I get pulled over by a police officer. For those of you that don’t know because of the way I speak. I don’t speak O’bonics.

I am a black male, and I got pulled over by a white police officer. Well, a white police officer came up to my vehicle, and I turned my dome lights on inside so the police officer could see everything, so they’ll feel comfortable talking to me. He took my driver’s license and left. He was gone for maybe five, seven minutes.

I’m like, man, what’s he doing? He’s writing me a fat ticket. Anyways, he comes back, and he hands me my driver’s license, and then he has this slip. I said, okay, here’s the bad news. Here’s the ticket, but he hands it and says, here’s a warning.

I’m like, really? Because I was speeding. I can’t deny it. I wasn’t trying to act all crazy or everything with him. I said you’re giving me a warning. I said because I admit I was going a little fast, but I’m not going to argue with you. I said, let me ask you a question. Why are you just giving me a warning when they say that every time a white cop pulls a black guy over, you all shoot them?

He said, well, put this one down in the history books. You didn’t get shot. (laughing) I was like, all right, thank you. It got to the point when I said, Mr. Officer, can I take a picture with you? He said, absolutely, so I got out, and I took a picture with him.

I did a video earlier, and I showed that. I just want to share that there are good cops out there. My producer goes, the only reason why he didn’t shoot is that it’s Black History Month.

Channon: He gave him a break,

Will Johnson: He gave me a break. I thought that was pretty good. I thought that was pretty funny. So, we are at the end of this wonderful broadcast. Don’t forget 88202 on your mobile device, and text my name W-I-L-L.

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