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Growing Menace of Red-Black-Green Axis


Anni Cyrus: Hello, everybody, and welcome to Islam Corner radio on the ATP channel. I'm your host, Anni Cyrus. I do apologize for the few seconds of delay. I will do the usual call to action before bringing on our very special guest.

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Okay, I am very excited and very anxious to start this topic. I'm going to go ahead and introduce our guest, which I'm sure you all know very well. Today with us as Clare Lopez. She's the founder of Lopez Liberty, LLC.

She's also an expert when it comes to; I personally would say anything you would need to know about September 11th, about jihad, terrorism- homegrown or not, and most importantly to me, which is very personal. Everything about the Islamic Republic of Iran and its involvement with destruction and financing jihad. Hi, Clare.

Clare Lopez: Hey, Anni. Hi, so glad to be with you. Thanks for having me on.

Anni Cyrus: Oh, absolutely, my pleasure. As you know, I never, ever get enough of talking to you about all these important topics. I appreciate you giving me the time today, and we have some very disturbing but very important topics to discuss. So, why don't we just dive right in and start with my nightmare and millions of Iranians nightmares?

That should also be a lot of American's nightmares. The newly selected, I would say, President of the Islamic Republic of Iran. For those of our audience who are not aware, on Friday, June 18th, the presidential election took place in Iran, but I can guarantee you there was no election, and I'm sure Clare can confirm that.

It is, and it has been a rigged election for the last 42 years, but this one was definitely preselection, which we will get into details. On Saturday, the 19th, it was confirmed that Ebrahim Raisi is now going to be the new President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, taking office in August. Clare, do you mind giving our audience a little bit of who he is and why he is my nightmare?

Clare Lopez: To start with, you're absolutely right, Anni. To call this in the Islamic Republic of Iran, a selection beginning with an "S" and not an election. The individual who was named President after what has been a historically low voter turnout is Ebrahim Raisi.

He has been the Iranian chief of the judiciary since 2019, and now he has ascended to the presidency. Some people think that he may even be looked at as a possible successor to the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei himself, one day.

Anni Cyrus: Yes, that's very true, and I can confirm, knowing the steps, he does have all the required credentials to possibly, one day become the supreme leader of my motherland, which I hope and pray doesn't happen. But I posted Clare Saturday, and I said a different word, but I'm going to use those words here on the air.

It is heartbreaking, disturbing, and scary when a person with these nicknames within Iranian society, inside and outside. He is called the Butcher of Tehran. He is also called the executioner judge. He is named by our mainstream media, as the hardliner, and I can guarantee you, people, he's more than a hardliner.

He has the blood of thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of innocent people on his hands because he issued the executive order for these people and also a few juveniles. I do remember I covered a case of a 14-year-old boy who was executed under his orders. Here's where it's very heartbreaking for me as an Iranian American, Clare.

As of right now, there are still talks that Biden’s handlers are going to continue negotiating Iran's nuclear deal with Iran. We both know even though the President of Iran doesn't make foreign policies he plays a huge role where deals and foreign policies go. Am I correct on that?

Clare Lopez: Yeah, you're absolutely correct. What I would say first is, it's a little bit more about the system itself in Iran for putting a president in power. There is a body in Iran called the Guardian Council. If I remember right, half of its members, six I think, are appointed by the Majlis or the parliament and half by the supreme leader. Is that right? For a total of 12?

Anni Cyrus: Correct.

Clare Lopez: Okay, well, the Guardian Council has the authority under the Iranian system to approve or to disqualify anyone who wants to run for office in Iran, and in particular a presidential race like this one. The Guardian Council disqualified hundreds of other possible presidential candidates who wanted to run.

As they widdled the field down, it became more and more obvious that Raisi was the regime's favorite, the supreme leader's favorite, and was destined to win. Also, I should add quickly about the system. It's totally rigged, of course. It is that system that completely bars women, period. Women cannot run, members of religious minorities like the Baha'i, for example, and any candidates whose views are different than the approved views of the regime itself.

Those people cannot even run for President. So, Raisi himself passed all those barriers because he was, in fact, the favorite of the supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, and the regime overall. You're right, absolutely, first of all, to talk about the fact that his career is drenched in the blood of the Iranian people. His past includes these positions.

He was the Tehran prosecutor general between 1989 and 1994. That means, a very important part of Iranian history, he was in charge of prosecuting the Iranian people. Including, I think, that was around the time of the student uprising in Iran. He was the Deputy Head of the Judiciary from 2004 until 2014.

That period of time, of course, covers the mass slaughter of the green movement protesters after the fraudulent 2009 selection that brought Mahmoud Ahmadinejad back to the Presidency. I should also mention, as you say, that he has passed death sentences on minors. Yes, as young as 14, thousands upon thousands, some people don't even know how many.

The guess is, I shouldn't say guess is. The estimates run as high as 30,000 people in the 1988 prison massacre, which he, Raisi, presided over. That prison massacre was of thousands and thousands. If it's 30,000, it may be something less, but it's thousands and thousands of political prisoners: the main, the largest, oldest, most dedicated Iranian opposition groups. Many of them were in the Iranian prisons at that time.

The 1988 prison massacre was under Raisi's tenure, under his supervision. It's for that in particular, among other things, that the United States Department of the Treasury sanctioned Raisi in 2019 for the role that he played in the prison massacre. So, all of this by way of background, and, yes, now our own administration, the new one in the White House.

Is practically groveling on hands and knees to please, please, please be allowed back into the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran or the JCPOA, Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. Although I'll say the latest, I've heard, the talks that have been ongoing in Vienna for many weeks now have been suspended. As of just a day or so ago, and people have gone home. So, one can hope.

Anni Cyrus: Most definitely, but I'm glad you brought up the whole point that he is under sanctions, and I'm almost positive, but you know more than I do. So, let me ask you this question. If the worst-case scenario comes to life, and Biden handlers decide to move forward and do this negotiation. Doesn't that mean the Biden administration would have to lift those sanctions from Raisi?

Clare Lopez: Well, who knows what they would do or which laws of the United States government, they would float, but the sanctions remain, first of all. The U.S. Department of the Treasury sanctions against Raisi, the new President of the Islamic Republic of Iran, remains, and to deal directly with him in any way would be counter, therefore, to U.S. law.

Anni Cyrus: Exactly, thank you. Yes, and they have to not only break the law, which is very usual for Democrats to do, and we're going to get to that in a minute. But they are, I guess, my biggest frustration Clare is, how is it even on the table? How is our government okay, dealing with a man who should be on trial for crimes against humanity? When did we get here? How did we get here?

Clare Lopez: I'm as tongue-tied as you are. How could they possibly even think of going forward with him as President? Now, he doesn't take office until August, as you say that being a couple of months from now, but between now and then, the Biden administration is going to have to figure out what it's going to do in regard to any talks that may resume.

As we've said, they've been suspended at this particular time, and delegates have gone home. But in any case, pursuing a renewal of that nuclear deal from 2015, the JCPOA, is futile in itself. I mean, even to begin with, partly because that deal completely ignored Iran's previous violations of not just the nuclear nonproliferation agreement, which it remains a signatory to this day.

It's then, and till now, ongoing, open, obvious recorded, documented pursuit of a deliverable nuclear weapons program. Then secondly, the point is that since 2015, we're now in June of 2021. The Iranian regime has pushed forward with so many violations of the JCPOA itself. To include bringing online more advanced, more modern, faster centrifuges up to generation IR6, as they call it, and beyond testing, anyway.

They have enriched more uranium than allowed under the JCPOA. They have enriched uranium up to the 60% mark. Sixty percent might sound like, well, they're not there yet. Weapons-grade is over 90%. Yes, true, but you can make a nuclear device out of 60% enriched uranium.

You can do it. The ideal is over 90%, but you can do it with 60%. They've openly admitted that they're doing this. The IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency, the monitoring body of the United Nations for nuclear programs around the world, has confirmed that indeed Iran is enriching to 60% level as well as many other violations of both the NPT, Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and the JCPOA to bring Iran back to that agreement, flawed as it was.

It would mean that they would have to destroy, I mean, verifiably destroy centrifuges, and destroy enriched uranium. That's just not going to happen, but the other part of this that's so disturbing is that Iran has been running a clandestine nuclear weapons program since the late 1980s. Before the death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in 1989.

So, at least by 1988, they had already begun this clandestine program, which remained out of sight, at least publicly, and to the IAEA, as far as I know. Until August of 2002, when the Iranian opposition group, the National Council of Resistance of Iran, blew the lid off the program with simultaneous press conferences in both Paris and Washington, D.C.

It revealed with satellite imagery and other data the existence of places like the Natanz, the enrichment facility, Isfahan, the Kalaye Electric plant, and so many more since then. So, the JCPOP completely ignored the fact that there was a clandestine nuclear weapons program.

Also, by the way, now attested to, in the documents spirited out of Tehran by the Israeli Mossad with local Iranian assistance, of course, a few years ago, and the revelations in those documents of the ongoing clandestine nuclear weapons program named by the Iranians, the Achmad plan.

All of that notwithstanding, the Biden administration still wants to, please, crawl on hands and knees over broken glass, to please, be allowed back into the deal suggests, I don't even know what it suggests. They've got to know all of this, but that means they're disregarding it. That they don't care, and that is dangerous.

That is deeply dangerous for American national security, for the security of our allies, friends, and partners in the region. Foremost among them, of course, Israel and the stability of the entire region, if not the world. To make sense out of it, I can't even begin.

Anni Cyrus: I'm sure you know I'm in the same boat with you there. Here's what I was thinking the other day. It doesn't shock me. It breaks my heart, but it doesn't shock me because we both know this new President Raisi, as I said, with the nicknames, with the background, with the résumé, how he built his career, how he was handpicked by Harmonie, and how he was trained. He can easily resemble people such as Hitler. He can resemble people such as. I'm drawing a blank—the leader of Marxist.

Clare Lopez: Karl, Lenin, Stalin, or ...

Anni Cyrus: Karl Marx, Stalin, all of them. He is a modern-day of them, which is a good connection to our main topic today. He's just like them, mentality, emotion, training, but I think for me, on a biased end of it. He has one extra icing on the cake, which is Islam in his head.

Clare Lopez: Well, let me pick up on that point that you make, which is exactly spot on. The affiliation between the senior ruling leadership of Iran, in particular some of the top clerics, the ayatollahs, Moscow, and the KGB. Here's the connection: Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the current supreme leader. I don't know if people know this; he is a graduate of Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow.

It's got a new name now. It's been called Friendship University for quite some years now, but it's a place where the KGB would troll among the students, many of them on scholarship from third world countries across the world, Asia, Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, et cetera.

They would troll among them for recruits to be recruited because those students with that education, that degree would leave Moscow with and would-be prime candidates to rise in the systems, the politics, the ruling elite of their own countries when they went back home again. Indeed, so it has happened in Iran. There are extremely close connections between the KGB and the ruling Iranian elite.

There's a whole website address to this, as a matter of fact, by the name of Comrade Ayatollah, which is also, by the way, the same name as a book. Very extensive, a long book only in Farsi, for those of us who may not speak Farsi, but Miraval Fakhravar, who was a leader of the student revolution back in Iran, is the author of that book and the website. He put together evidence of the close connections between the ruling Islamic clerical class of Iran, the KGB, and Moscow.

Anni Cyrus: Exactly. Now, that's the thing when you say they don't care, they being the Biden administration. They never cared, by they, I mean world leaders. That's why all of this is in our history. They never cared. They shook the hands of these; I call them monsters. I'm sure you have a more profound name for them.

They shook their hands, they did photo ops with them, and they make deals with them. Now, let's conclude on the Raisi part by quickly hinting at what you brought up, which was I don't think even the Biden administration can understand what Raisi, as President of Iran, could mean for Israel. What are your thoughts on that? What will that lead to?

Clare Lopez: I think they know perfectly well, which is why they're enacting the policy they're enacting. If we look at the Biden administration and the appointees that have been made to various positions. I mean, I'll name just one, Ariane Tabatabai. Ariane Tabatabai is appointed to an advisory position within the Department of State, the Arms Control and Disarmament Bureau.

Her immediate family inside of Iran is reported to be close to the current President of Iran's inner circle, Hassan Rouhani. It's just one example. Many others appointed to senior positions in this Biden administration are openly opposed. They show open animosity to Israel. To the survival, the existence of the Jewish state of Israel, and animosity to a number of Arab neighbors in the region who, for example, came together in the Abraham Accords.

Either openly like Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Sudan, Morocco, or supportive of those accords. Maybe behind the scenes a little bit, as we all expect the kingdom of Saudi Arabia has been. But in complete opposition to any of that normalization of relations with Israel. That's who runs the Biden administration. They know exactly what they're doing.

Anni Cyrus: They do. They do, and it's scary. Sometimes, I know I said we're going to conclude that chapter, but sometimes I just can't help but sit here and think, they made one mistake after Obama. I don't know if it was a miscalculation or what it was, but we caught a break there for four years.

But they're picking up right where they left off with the Obama administration to finish the job. On that, I will bring it to, let's talk about the Red-Black-Green axis, Clare. I have mentioned this on my page three times, and I had people saying, what is that? So, let's just start there. What is the Red-Black-Green axis?

Clare Lopez: Okay, sure. Well, it's a term that some of us have taken to using. A term that perhaps I heard for the first time from our good friend and colleague, Jim Simpson, who has just recently come out with a brand-new book about Karl Marx. That's where I might have first heard the term red-green axis. Later, we've added black.

Red stands for the communist, Marxist, Leninist, Maoist element of the axis, an axis of animosity to the United States of America. To our republic, our Constitution, our system of law and order. That would include- the red part would include Antifa. It would include the Black Lives Matter movement, both of which are Marxist.

The Black Lives Matter movement is also openly Maoist, and then the black leading right into there is the Black Lives Matter movement; by the way, each of these is a network of groups. Not just one group in any category, but an entire network of reds to include Antifa.

You know, Revolutionary Communist USA, World Workers Party, and so many more. Black Lives Matter movement, the black part of the axis, likewise, is an entire network of organizations affiliated, and yes, there's a crossover with the red. Then finally, the green stands for Islam.

Here in the United States, the vanguard of the Islamic movement, that's what they call themselves, is the Muslim Brotherhood and its many, many front groups. The green, the Muslim Brotherhood front groups in this country, for example, are very closely, openly avowedly supportive of, and connected to the Black Lives Matter movement.

So, it truly is an axis. It truly is an alignment of enemies who hate the United States of America. Our foundational principles, everything we stand for, the Constitution, law, and order, each of them seeks to instigate chaos. Such a situation of chaos that the country collapses, and then out of that chaos, each of them, yes, with varying and different ideologies. But each, I guess, thinks that it will be the one to come out of the chaos and be able to seize power for itself.

Anni Cyrus: Well, thanks for that detailed explanation. That's a start because, you know, I'm biased, and I'm Islamophobic, so we have to start in reverse. Let's start with green. We have already established the danger this new President is bringing. The national security of America is in danger, but here's what I covered last week.

Well, everybody's familiar with Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Keith Ellison, Linda Sarsour, and the list goes on in different departments. Now, they finished the whole alliance with this very brand-new Muslim judge who was confirmed for a lifetime position and a lifetime salary. Please listen, fellow Americans.

He will have no choice but to dedicate part of that salary that we are paying him towards Islamic tax, known as the Zakat. So, without you even knowing it, you are contributing to Islamic tax. On a side note, we have this judge, Judge Quraishi, who was confirmed by the Senate, and I believe a Federal Judge Article III two Thursdays ago. Are we overreacting to this?

Clare Lopez: I was just going to say yes to the U.S. District Court in New Jersey. That's where he's been appointed. It's a federal-level judge appointment.

Anni Cyrus: Yes, but am I overreacting to this, or are you letting me in on a fact that?

Clare Lopez: No, you're not overreacting at all. Number one, I think it's very interesting to note his last name, Quraishi. Quraishi is the name of the tribe of Muhammed, the founder of Islam. Now, I don't know if he actually descends from Muhammed or not, but that's his name. Just a fun fact there, but not overreacting at all.

Here's why, if he is a devout, faithful, practicing Muslim, that means that he is pledged. He is sworn, in fact, to obey and to uphold Islamic law, which is Sharia. As we know, many elements of Sharia are directly antithetical to the U.S. Constitution, to which, now, Judge Quraishi took an oath.

So, the question is, and by the way, let me insert here a little plug for a book by Dr. Steven Kirby, K-I-R-B-Y. Steven Kirby, back in December of 2019. The book is called Islamic Doctrine vs. the U.S. Constitution, and in very clear, simple language, lays out these contradictions. To which oath is Judge Quraishi now going to be faithful?

It can't be to both because we know that they're antithetical to one another. So, when a conflict arises and certainly a conflict, more than one conflict will arise in the course of his tenure. In this position as a U.S. district court judge which will he keep?

Anni Cyrus: Well, we all know which oath Rashida Tlaib, Keith Ellison, and Ilhan Omar are keeping. I don't think there's ever been a question. I honestly thought about it, Clare. The other day I was like, what's going to happen if he's facing some sort of case? That is, let's say one side is a Jew. What is he going to do? Is he going to earn himself a fatwa?

I'm just curious, is he going to go against Quran, Sharia and defended a Jew? Earn himself a fatwa, a bounty on his head, or is he going to go for it and dismiss the Jewish guy or Jewish company or whatever, to protect Sharia? That's my only question.

Clare Lopez: Well, it's even much more mundane and everyday cases that could come before him—involving things like marriage, divorce, and child custody. Very ordinary sorts of cases, but if he follows his oath to the United States Constitution. In rulings that we can expect will come before his bench. Then he violates Islamic law.

So, we get back to his oath. He's taken two oaths. To which is he going to be faithful in a situation where there is a conflict? I think the American people need to think about this. It's too late. He's already appointed, but this is a very serious question.

Anni Cyrus: I'm glad you said, too late he has already been appointed or confirmed. But here's my question, before we move on to the black and red axis, or part of that? Is there anything we can do, Clare, as an ordinary American people?

I mean, considering we are the people. Is there anything left for us to do today to reverse any of these seriously damaging moves? Or is there not?

Clare Lopez: Absolutely, and this is what I say when I'm talking to audiences all over the country, which I've been doing. That is to become involved at the local level, first of all. To become informed, which, thank you to all of our listeners because that's what you're doing, the viewers and listeners to Anni's other programs. Informed first and engaged after.

I see it happening. People are becoming engaged in supporting candidates at the very local level—library board, school board, city council, and on up. You know, through the other levels of elected office. They are getting into the races themselves. Some of them are actually running for office for election themselves.

Certainly, they are coming together, as I've never seen people do before. Tea Party comes to mind, but I think this goes even beyond it. A part of it may have to do with the fact that parents and kids were both stuck at home last year. Parents, maybe, for the first time, had the chance to see what their kids were being taught.

It shocked them, it horrified them, and it made them furious. This is a good part of why we're seeing such local engagement now. That's what has to happen because this isn't going to be fixed at the federal level, obviously, but it will be fixed at the local level. Then we the people level, and that's what I encourage people to do. In any way, you're able, whatever your time and situation may permit.

To become engaged, attend a school board meeting, attend a city council meeting, or send in your comments. If there's an opportunity to do that.

Call into radio shows, call into T.V. shows, write a little op-ed for your own local outlet, your own local newspaper, and get behind candidates who might be jumping into races for the first time who support your values and your principles.

Anni Cyrus: I'm so glad you said that. I'd agree, but it is good to know there are still ways for us to reverse it. I hope we reversed it before it gets to where it's not reversible, but let's move on to the part of the Red-Black-Green axis.

So, we had President Trump in office, and cities were burning down because of the Black Lives Matter movement and all that charade this whole summer. Then the Biden administration comes along, and they're in the office for a long enough time to fix all of this, but none of that went away. There is still a Black Lives Matter movement. There's still systematic racism in the government and America. So, what do they want?

Clare Lopez: They want a complete collapse of the system. This is what I said before, even though there is an ideological difference among these different elements of the axis, red and black and green. Their cause for unity comes from their agreement on the singular objective before all of them right now.

That is the complete collapse of the United States government, system, and Constitution. The reason that the rioting goes on, and certainly, we've seen very recent images from Portland, Oregon, and other places too. The reason the revolution goes on is that the revolution is not done, and it doesn't have to do with one party or another. It's not about a Republican Party or a Democrat party.

It's about the collapse of the entire system, and for those who may have been able to read up a little on the communist manifesto, let's say the writings of Marx, Lenin, or just the writings of the Black Lives Matter movement, which are online. If you have to go to the Wayback machine because for the stuff they've scrubbed, it's never really gone.

It's still back there. You can read in their own words what their intent is. Violent revolution to overthrow the entire system. Now, that doesn't even mean that they've got some bright and shiny utopian vision of what they're going to replace it with, that will be better than what we have now.

No, when you read Karl Marx and others, and by the way, I've just finished another book. I'm going to recommend it, and that is Paul Kangas, an excellent book called The Devil and Karl Marx. I'm currently reading Jim Simpson's new book about Karl Marx. If you read those, you realize that they don't have an alternative in mind.

Even though the misled kids on the college campuses are starry-eyed about the idea of socialism, sharing, communalism, and whatever, that's not really what they're talking about; they are talking about complete destruction. They're talking about the total destruction, the tearing down of the entire system, and not about any, you know, nice replacement.

Let me read the last paragraph, the very last page of the last paragraph, of the Communist Manifesto. The communists' disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions.

I mean, they told us that, by the way, this is dated 1848. They told us, and it is complete destruction. It is nihilism. It is not a replacement with something nicer and better. No.

Anni Cyrus: Yeah, that part, I'm pretty sure of, because I remember connecting it back to green as well. I wasn't born, but I remember when my grandmother told me that even though the entire revolution, the invasion of my motherland was orchestrated, planned, and all that.

But when Khomeini landed in Iran and was interviewed, they asked about what's happening. The only thing he kept repeating was we're going to have a Sharia Constitution. That was it. There was nothing else. Of course, it wasn't better. It was horrible what he was planning to do, but he didn't even have a plan.

Since we are talking, I have never been an expert, or I don't claim to know much about the Black Lives Matter movement, but I'm pretty sure one or all three founders of the Black Lives Matter movement are openly claiming to be communist. Am I correct on that?

Clare Lopez: Yes, you are correct. So, the three founders are three African American women, Alicia Garza, Opal Tometi, and Patrisse Cullors. Now Patrisse Cullors, recently, after journalists revealed that she had amassed a very nice real estate portfolio of at least four homes totaling millions of dollars in value has supposedly separated herself from the Black Lives Matter movement.

Nevertheless, yes, each of those women comes out of a background of participation in preceding organizations like the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, Liberation Road, and other organizations, explicitly Marxist, Leninist, Communist.

Then, of course, there was the video a few years ago by Patrisse Cullors, in which she openly declared that she, herself, and Alicia Garza, at least those two, were trained Marxists. So, they don't hide this stuff.

They're not disguising themselves. They're telling us exactly who they are and what they believe. As I read to you from the Communist Manifesto, they don't hide it. The problem is that people either don't know about it or don't believe it when they hear it.

Anni Cyrus: I know it seems like even on the Islamization part, a lot of time, Clare, I'm on a stage, and I'm talking to people. I look at their faces, and I can see that they are terrified of what they're hearing, but they do not understand that it's right around them. It's like this little bubble around everyone that somehow protects their imagination to grasp the idea tangibly.

Clare Lopez: Well, the other part of it is the failure of the U.S. educational system and the failure to teach history either our own or world history accurately. So, people don't know what happened in Russia in 1917 or how exactly Mao Zedong took over China in 1949. What he did since then, and what his successors have done since then.

They don't know what's going on, even right now in Venezuela. They don't know any of this. I mean, they're hard-pressed to find, I don't know, Mississippi on a map, never mind Venezuela. So, it's a failure of the U.S. educational system to inform people, to arm them with the facts of what communism really is and how it works out when it's imposed upon a people.

No, it's not; well, we didn't do it right, we'll do it better next time. No, it has never, ever worked, and it's always, every single time left piles of dead bodies behind it.

Anni Cyrus: Yeah, that's a very, very fair statement. I understand you said that the Red-Black-Green axis does not have the same ideology, but they just have a temporary, unified goal, which is taking it down. Since you were mentioning books, here's another book. I strongly always suggest everyone read United in Hate by Dr. Jamie Glazov.

That explains the unholy alliance of the left and Islam, which was the Red-Green axis. I always used the term he used, which is they just want to burn down America. That's it, but here's my random thought of Anni Cyrus.

Okay, God forbid, somehow, they managed to burn America down. Then what will happen between the Red-Black-Green axis? What are they going to do to each other? Because they're not going to stay friends. I'm pretty sure of that. They can't.

Clare Lopez: Yeah, I think you're right. Then there will be a falling out. You can already see the Black Lives Matter movement coming apart at the seams when people like Patrisse Cullors don't live up to the narrative of what communism is supposed to be. In fact, she's a rather rapacious capitalist at heart. You can see things coming apart. I mean, go back to the Russian Revolution again.

Think about the original group that tried to try to bring down the Russian government and succeeded. They fell out among themselves. I mean, think about Stalin and his years, certainly in the 1930s, the huge purge. He purged thousands and thousands and tens of thousands of his own countrymen. Many of whom had been, I don't know what you would call them, partners in crime.

So, it'll always come to that in the end. They will fall out among themselves. Yes, but each one, at this point in time. Each one thinks that they're the one that's going to rise to the top of the heap and be in charge after the collapse, which is what they hope to instigate.

Anni Cyrus: I 100% agree with everything you said. Now, let me look into the future based on history and facts. I think both red and black people should look into green people. The only movement that has not collapsed and gained momentum and power would be the Islamic power from 1,400 years ago to today, any land they have conquered.

They have conquered. I don't know if you would agree or not, Clare, but I say the biggest danger we're facing out of all the dangers is Islamization. It's the infiltration of our government by Islam. It's the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood members are walking across our Congress today because these people don't go away.

They don't have a fallout. They stick to the plan: jihad, a global caliphate, and 72 virgins at the end of the day. What do you think of that? Am I too biased here?

Clare Lopez: I think you're right. You're absolutely right about the cohesiveness of Islam over the centuries. If it comes to a final shootout at the OK Corral. I don't know which would come out on top—the forces of Communism, Leninism, Marxism, Maoism, or the forces of Islam. I really don't know.

The forces of communism have only been around for a couple of hundred years or so. So, there's no comparison with 1,400 years of Islam, but in a final showdown. I don't know.

I don't know, but nevertheless, we're talking about two horrible outcomes; two forces that are deeply inimical to the values of Western civilization and our own American constitutional republic.

Anni Cyrus: Agreed, and I wish that my fellow Americans who are deeply involved with this Black Lives Matter movement could just look for one second and realize how badly and poorly they are being abused by two very inhuman movements.

If they would just stop because they are giving both communists, Marxists, Leninists, and Islamists, they're giving them a lot of power. They're scoring a lot for them, and they don't realize how badly they're being mistreated. Neither side cares for them, and we know that. Muhammed had black slaves.

To this day, in the Islamic Republic of Iran, they have black slaves. When communists don't care if you're black or red or yellow or white, it's communism. Right?

Clare Lopez: Yes.

Anni Cyrus: How do we get them to see that? I understand. I get it, mainstream media has literally whispered in their ear, but I'm sure there's a way for us to show them or wake them up. What do we do? How do we do it?

Clare Lopez: You know, thanks to programs like this radio show of yours, Anni. The programs that Jamie Glazov airs. The programs at the American Truth Project, our own speaking, and the speaking of, I would say, many other very well-informed people. Trevor Loudon comes to mind and others around the country.

I think people are beginning to realize. When I talk with audiences, I see more understanding. Now, yes, of course, that's a self-selected audience that came to hear me. So, they're self-selected, but when you think how few, it takes percentage-wise to mount a revolution.

Whether our own American Revolution back in 1776, when maybe one-third of the population in the colonies was engaged in that revolution against the British crown, or you think about the small band. The faction of Lenin's political party, the Bolsheviks.

Although “bol'shiy” means more, “men Shiv” means less. The Bolsheviks were the bigger faction of the political party, but overall, each of these is a very small percentage of the overall population. When you think how few it takes to mount a revolution, it also takes fewer than you might think to stand up to that revolution.

In the case of the communist one, or to push back on what's happening in our own country right now I see that happening. I see it happening at the local level. I see it happening among ordinary, everyday American citizen patriots who maybe had not ever been engaged before. But they are now, and I see it happening.

Anni Cyrus: I really hope so, and I would like to add I sometimes feel like it wouldn't hurt if all of us on the right or conservatives, Republicans, patriots, Americans, American lovers, or whatever we want to title ourselves we need to be united a little bit more. We need to put aside our differences in small things like what color I like and what color I don't. Get stronger and be louder.

We still do have a constitution that allows us under our First Amendment to petition our government peacefully. We have the right to petition our government. We have the right to petition our Senate and ask them why they were comfortable confirming, verbally at least, a Muslim Judge who will face conflict, and they have no idea which way he is going to go.

We at least have the right to petition them. So, let's do that. At this point, we have so much to lose that being afraid and waiting for someone else to do it for us is just not an option at all. Sorry for that long rant, Clare.

Clare Lopez: No, you're exactly right, and here's something else that I think could of, should of, been done. That is if it's at all possible to reach out to one's representatives, especially those in Congress who may sit on Senate confirmation hearings for judges like Judge Quraishi, to inform those representatives of the issues before them.

I'm sure, dollars to donuts those senators who sat on that confirmation hearing for Judge Quraishi they have no idea what Islamic law is or Sharia. No idea, but if enough constituents could politely, clearly, articulately let them know. Maybe the next time, there'd be a few more pointed questions.

Anni Cyrus: I absolutely agree. We are coming to the last minutes of our program. So, Clare, the last word goes to you. What do you want our audience to take away from this discussion?

Clare Lopez: Well, first of all, I am thankful that you've all joined us to listen to it. To become better informed about these issues, and I hope you take to heart what we were talking about in terms of becoming engaged at the local level as your own circumstances, your schedule permit. To be engaged at the local level, I think, is the most important priority right now in the country.

I am not dismissing our federal level, and I just talked about reaching out to congressional representatives, yes. More important, I think, is getting engaged at the local level to the best of your ability to do that.

Anni Cyrus: Absolutely, 100% agreed, and here is the very last question for you. Where does our audience go to follow you, support you and learn more from you?

Clare Lopez: I have radio interviews, other interviews, webinars, and written pieces posted at various different places. Citizen's Commission on National Security, of course, at the American Truth Project. Many of my interviews you may find at Jamie Glazov, the Jamie Glazov Gang.

I've also been publishing there, for example, this year a series of four articles about critical race theory at FrontPage Magazine, another project of the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Let's see where else. Sometimes at The World View weekend.

That is Brannon Howse's platform online. Then I'm online on social media @ClareMLopez on Twitter, on Facebook. I've been on Parlor, but I just haven't had time to keep up much there lately. I also have a blog at Newsmax, but I need to get cracking there to get some more writing published, but those are the places.

You can also sign up to follow my published pieces, which are sort of aggregated, if you will, a free subscription. You have to register and subscribe, but it's called Pundicity, P-U-N-D-I-C-I-T-Y, and that's a way to get everything in one place.

Anni Cyrus: Fantastic. Thank you so much, Clare. I appreciate your wisdom, time, and personal level. I am grateful for you because you dig deeper than anyone else to expose the evil we face today. So, I appreciate you.

Clare Lopez: Thanks so much, Annie. It's been great to be with you.

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