Jermain Botsio: So, we were speaking about the U.S. maps being redrawn due to President drug President Trump basically acknowledging the sovereignty of Israel with the Golan Heights. This is a big deal and a lot of people are talking about this. Why won't you speak up a little bit about the redrawing of the maps here.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah. It's a good question and it's an extremely big deal because U.S. international opinion whether, we're popular or not, tends to lead the rest of the world. So, making a map that shows the Golan as part of Israel is a strong incentive for the rest of the world to follow along. You know, when he moved the embassy President Trump said eventually this will die down and other countries will move too and that's what's been happening slowly but surely. Similarly, on the Golan, look Syria doesn't have any friends in the world except for probably Russia and Iran. Because Iran sends troops and Russia sends military equipment and military advisers and adviser troops. The rest of the world doesn't want to have anything to do with Syria because they're slaughtering hundreds of thousands if not over a million people. The point is, that while they don't like Syria there is a great deal of anti-Israel sentiment in the world and eventually that will die down and Golan permanently will be part of Israel because of the action of President Trump, not because people are changing sides so to speak, Israel over Syria although that makes a lot of sense. It's simply because they're going to follow what recognition the United States sets. And that will become policy for other countries as well as far as I'm concerned.
Jermain Botsio: And I want to go ahead and speak about this article here with you and it's about the Arab summit and it says Arab summit will tone down opposition to Trump's pro-Israel Golan declaration. Now this to me is very big in a sense where the Arab summit has a lot of influence in that region. What do you think about them and their opposition?
Barry Nussbaum: Well it's really curious. In the old days one of the Arab members of the Arab League or some Palestinian spokesmen would make some outrageous comment like for example Jesus was a Palestinian Arab, was never Jewish, and had nothing to do with what became the state of Israel. And then all the other goofballs would parrot that in their various Arabic press. The big deal is that things are not like they used to be Jermain, and I think it has a lot to do with discussions that are going on behind the scenes between the United States and those Arab countries and Israel and those Arab countries. I know for a fact having been told by members of the Israeli government that there is cooperation going on right now between Israel and Egypt, Israel and Jordan, Israel and Saudi Arabia, and to a lesser degree other Arab countries as well. Now what does that mean.? Well those countries aren't out in public about it, but their public pronouncements are changing. So instead of it being like the old days where the United States says this is the Golan Heights as part of Israel and Israel says we're changing our maps and the United States is changing their maps and then the Arabs come out with a joint statement saying we're going to invade and destroy Israel, now they just kind of grumble about it and that's a huge change. It's really really significant in terms of what's going on behind the scenes and I think a lot of it also has to do with the fact that those Arab countries, who are Sunni Arabs hate and fear the one major Shia country that is not Arab, but it's Persian. And that's Iran. So, the enemy of my enemy becomes my friend, right? So, the enemy is Iran. Israel considers Iran an enemy. Therefore, the enemy of my enemy which is Israel becomes the friend of these Arab countries. And I'll bet you anything couple of years from now when we do a show, no one is going to be talking about the Golan Heights anymore, it's just going to be acknowledged as Israel.