Jermain Botsio: The city council that’s in Ilhan Omar’s district has just voted to eliminate the Pledge of Allegiance every morning in order to make it more welcoming of an environment to not offend anybody. This to me is absolutely crazy Barry. You know, I don’t know what they have to say about this. Let’s start with this here in Saint Lewis Park, you know, they caught hell for doing this too. And now they have reversed course. I mean, what do you think about this, Barry? Ilhan Omar, Let’s start off with her.
Barry Nussbaum: Jermain, when I was growing up in Indiana, the Pledge of Allegiance started our school every morning. Everybody stood and faced the flag with their hand over their heart. And the biggest honor you could have as a little kid in elementary school was the teacher would call on you. Everyone would volunteer to lead the pledge. We all shot our hands up because it was an honor not only to be an American but to show our allegiance to our flag and all that it represented. And for someone like me who is like you, you know, we don’t come from generations of Americans. My parents came here after World War 2. You came here to become an American citizen. To be able to stand before the flag was an honor for us. And from my perspective, as an older person with grandchildren, I want my children and I want my grandchildren to feel that same sense of pride. If you eliminate the pledge because it offends some people, my perspective on that is the people that are offended can go someplace where they want to pledge to another flag. If this flag isn’t good enough and that’s OK, it truly is, let them leave. But you don’t start dismantling the country to feed the prejudices, hatred and literally self-loathing of people that have no patriotism. For them, America is the enemy and that’s OK. Let them go choose a place that’s more welcoming to them. And God bless them. The doors are open. They can go wherever they want.
Jermain Botsio: You know, you’re treading in very dangerous territory. Our good friend, Mr. President, said the same exact thing. “Hey, if you don’t like it, you can leave. Go back to where you came from.
Barry Nussbaum: Right or go where you want. It’s not just where you came from for a lot of people, Jermain at are born here. They’re from here. But they don’t think America is the greatest country in the face of the earth, which I happen to think it is. If they don’t think America is the greatest country that’s ever existed in civilized history, which I seem to believe it is, then they’re free to go. They can pick. There’s a lot of places that will welcome them and they can go argue with those people.