Minneapolis Prepares for Next BLM War
Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. It's the Katie Barry show. Joining me from beautiful sunny southern Mexico is wonderful and not yet tan, Katie Hopkins. Hi Katie.
Katie Hopkins: I know I need to work on this tan, I really do, but even from Mexico, I'm going to ask and remind our lovely audience to join our ATP family by texting the word TRUTH to 88202 so that we can send our content straight to your phones. Absolutely free.
Barry Nussbaum: Thank you for mentioning it! Now from good news to weird news. In Minneapolis, the site of the George Floyd death. If you may remember, last summer, the city council had the absolutely brilliant idea to disband the police. To stop giving money to police officers who are the enemy of the people and send out social workers to handle crime and stuff like that.
Now after crime has just exploded through the roof, they want the police back—what a novel idea. On top of that, the city is getting ready for, get this, massive rioting while they have just paid out some fortune to the George Floyd family. What do you know about it?
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, so speaking to my contacts in Minnesota and Minneapolis, I spent quite a period of time there when I was on the road in America last. Downtown Minneapolis at that point, was still a wreckage really and completely abandoned by anybody that cared about themselves or their possessions.
My contact there in Minneapolis says it is literally being turned into a war zone. It is being prepared for war. So as the days count down towards the trial date, starting for George Floyd, there is a real sense that the garrisons are going to be moving in. The National Guard is moving in, and people are clearing out.
There is fear once again in the suburbs because, as you know, that's where the George Floyd kind of rampaging really started, was in those poorer suburbs, and then that moved to the rich suburbs as well. People there are fearful that their homes will be raided. They're working out what do they do with their valuables.
I mean, that's the preparation people are putting in. Meanwhile, of course, 27 million pounds just paid out to George Floyd's family. That has caused all sorts of difficulties with the jury selection because, of course, it's kind of skewed that jury, hasn't it? If you pay out money to a family, what does it already suggest? What will that do to a jury?
So, all of that jury process has been thrown up in the air, and there is even talk, Barry, that I'm hearing now of the trial actually being moved out of Minneapolis altogether to try and calm the sense that war is going to break out on those streets. Where would they move it to?
Barry Nussbaum: Well, constitutionally, you're supposed to get a fair trial, so wherever fairness would reign. I don't know exactly where that is. Speaking to the money, by the way, it was dollars, not pounds but I think everyone knows that.
Katie Hopkins: I'm sorry. I apologize.
Barry Nussbaum: No worries. You are a Brit, after all.
Katie Hopkins: You are lucky that you didn't get Pesos from me at the moment being in Mexico. Yes, dollars, twenty-seven million dollars. Thank you, Barry.
Barry Nussbaum: The Black Lives Matter movement was quite involved in what happened in Minneapolis, and supposedly they've raised somewhere around one hundred million dollars. As best as anybody can tell, not a single dollar out of one hundred million has gone to a single black family, person, or cause.
Where did all the money go? Is it all to promote, as they call it, a "self-avowed communist manifesto" and their philosophy about changing America into a communist utopia? Any idea? Are they just profiting off it themselves? Is it a business? What do you think they did with all the dough?
Katie Hopkins: I think it is a business and that’s certainly where it's at. I think business transactions are happening all over the place. People that have the strategic ability to enable this movement to move faster. I see how quickly certain individuals, Meghan Markle, and others were very quick to move into Black Lives Matter territory.
It was almost as if they'd had a visit from a representative of the organization and were offered a large check. But that is pure speculation on my part. I think what we can safely say is if you go to those places that were burnt down in Minneapolis by Black Lives Matter, it is the very poorest black people who have absolutely suffered the most from Black Lives Matter.
There is no dollar store for them anymore. There is no Cubs store for them to get their necessities. The pharmacy in their area burnt down. The garage burnt down. All of these things, fundamental things women and men need to feed their families destroyed. Those are the people that got impacted the most, and they haven't seen any money from anyone.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, it was devastating. I watched it. When you see the camera, crews go through the neighborhoods now, Katie, you see the Walgreen's gone, and the Kroger burned to the ground and the gas stations gone, and the post office.
I can't imagine these large American corporations investing the money that it will take, literally billions, to go back in there and rebuild the infrastructure if for no other reason than they probably couldn't get fire insurance.
The self-destructive mentality is just brutal on the people that supposedly were the ones wanting things to get better, and they're the ones suffering the most.
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, and, you know, there is also- I can feel it even here in Mexico. In downtown Minneapolis, that sense of real foreboding, of intimidation, people scuttling. There is a certain way people walk when they feel under threat. They move very quickly, and they hug the buildings.
That's how people walk now downtown. You know, the big billboards that Uber put up saying if you don't think Black Lives Matter get out of our cars. There were huge billboards, just very aggressive, very threatening, and that was back six months ago. Goodness only knows what that place feels like now, and I hope to get there soon and to be able to report from the ground if I can.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, we will do a live shot with you if you're able to get there. On a related black cultural note, maybe you can explain this to me as a Brit from the outside looking in because, as an American, I can't make heads or tails out of this. Culturally, we have iconic cartoons being canceled left and right.
You know, Dumbo, Peter, and Pepé Le Pew, they're all gone because of their inherent racism or classism or whatever you want to call it, and they are cartoons. We have the same problem in sports and in books that are being canceled left and right. Can you explain this to me?
There's a singer who just performed on the Grammys named Cardi B. She brags about her former life as a stripper and a prostitute, and now she's quite famous for sexual songs and so on. I watched her video the other night, and she and another very attractive young lady were on a bed together on stage, and they sang the words to this song, WAP, and then acted it out on stage.
Which basically is simulating sex between the two ladies. That somehow is culturally okay within not only their community but the music community at large and a national network that broadcasts it. Yet, we censor cartoons that are meant to make people laugh. What's going on with culture in America?
Katie Hopkins: I wish, I'm sure I'm not the cultural icon that's required to explain it, but I look on like you do, Barry. I've watched the clip, obviously, and, you know, I would say that they're very dexterous ladies. They can move in ways, darling, that I can't.
So, kudos to them for having muscles in places that most of us don't. But it is a weird idea that certain things, traditional kind of stuff that we were brought up with are now put in that basket of things that are definitely wrong. But we would love it, wouldn't we, if it were replaced by something modern and forward-thinking that was right.
That was appropriate. But of course, it's not. It's replaced by this. Then, you know, one of the things that struck me watching the clip, of course, is that the crowd is going wild, or at least that's the sort of semblance. That people love this, and they think we're weird for not getting it. I'm sure you and I are on the same page that we don't really care what her past life is.
Women have got to do what women have got to do to get by, prostitute, stripper, whatever. My personal view may be, and yours, is, you know, people's lives are their own business. But on a stage being applauded, as you say, by a network, I just think it's you know, I like this idea that we build each other up.
Women build women to be strong women and tuff. I think it is debasing. Is it a suggestion that all that these ladies are good for is that? Is having sex on stage? I don't think it builds them up. I don't feel like it makes them strong women. I don't get it.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, I'm fairly libertarian, and I don't care if somebody needs or wants to have that kind of life and they're not hurting others. If that is the case, no one else is getting hurt, and they're not getting hurt, go for it. But like you said, there are certain cultural standards that should be the minimum to be on national television.
I would admonish our viewers today to go get the words to WAP. I'm not going to tell you what the word WAP means because it's very sexual in nature, and the song is very sexual in nature. The dance was not leaving anything to the imagination. It was rather graphic. I just am pointing out the incredible double standard.
That this sort of thing is culturally and sociologically acceptable, not only in private but also in public to accolades. And Pepé Le Pew, Dumbo, and Dr. Seuss are offensive. I just can't wrap my arms around the double standard. That we have gotten to the point that certain things are just wrong and unacceptable and certain things that debase people are still okay. I just don't get it.
Katie Hopkins: I totally understand, and I suppose I feel the same way for my teenage daughters. You know, because, while they are online, much of what they're scrolling through on their endless scrolling is young women doing these sorts of actions that I just think, how many times do you need to see that?
How is that entertaining or, well, keeping your brain occupied? I don't know. I know I sound like my mother, which is a concern. But, you know, I just wish they would be watching something at least funny or entertaining or worthwhile. Just something better.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, I'd like to point out, by the way, that these are the lowest ratings in Grammy television history. Maybe it's because what they're putting out for public consumption is really not culturally significant, but rather we should feel sorry for the people that think that's entertainment, but maybe you're right. I'm becoming my mom and dad, and so are you.
Katie Hopkins: It's terrifying. It really is. I wanted to tell you something Barry as well about Scotland, if I may, even though that seems kind of like distant and remote. In the very north of Great Britain is this place called Scotland, and many of our listeners will know. Scotland just came out and went: Great news! Great news, everybody! We're going to be at COVID restriction level zero by June. By June, great news, level zero! Of course, people were celebrating.
I was watching it blow up on Twitter. Yes, you know, all this sort of William Wallace and kind of freedom and all of that. It turns out, Barry, this is a massive deception that you and I and many of our viewers and listeners will have seen coming because level zero, which you think is like baseline freedom, has got a whole bunch of restrictions.
Level zero still means you're not allowed to go and socialize when you want. Nightclubs and late-night entertainment won't be open. You're not allowed to get together in groups of 50 or more. Only three houses can meet. Social distancing, masks required, and that's level zero. Can you see the sleight of hand?
We're replacing freedom and normal with a new normal. Which we've talked up but this new normal involves all of these restrictions on your freedoms still being imposed by the state. Then watching people celebrate, I'm kind of screaming at them going, “Stop, you're being tricked, you're being fooled, you're being taken for a ride!” I can see this coming to America. I guess that is my point.
Barry Nussbaum: God forbid, and I'm disgusted by the news that they consider that acceptable. Hey, great news, it's level zero. However, we redefined normal, and you are prisoners in your own country—boo you Scotland.
Katie Hopkins: Yeah, exactly right. Exactly. It makes you wonder, Barry, what is, you know, what we used to have before what was that in there in their new numbering system? What were we minus two? Minus five? I don't know. I don't get the system right now.
Barry Nussbaum: I don't know. I really don't. Thanks Katie. I appreciate you coming on as usual. Great, great job today, and thank you for watching. For Katie and Barry, thanks for joining us on ATP Report.