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Dems Present No Evidence But Impeach Trump Again

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Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. It's the Katie and Barry show. Our favorite UK resident, Katie Hopkins, is in the United States coming to us from beautiful sunny Florida. Welcome, Katie.

Katie Hopkins: Thank you very much. I feel very lucky and very blessed to be here looking out at the beautiful ocean. I tell you, people in Florida are on to something, Barry.

Barry Nussbaum: I love Florida and considering what's going on in the capital, and we're going to talk about it, you're very lucky you escaped today, young lady.

Katie Hopkins: You are absolutely right. Although my sense from being there is, it's not as dramatic as it is being made to sound by the media like CNN.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, speaking of which, while we were getting ready to come on, I was watching the live feed from D.C., and it's a replay of the insanity show of last year, the year before, and the year before. I actually saw one of the famous Dem representatives stand up and brag about how he started impeachment articles against President Trump two months after President Trump was in office before, he'd even had time to do anything. T

Then he bragged about it every single time he's introduced an impeachment resolution as if it was as inconsequential as what are we picking up for lunch. So, the bottom line is, Trump leaves office in a week if my calendar is right. Why are they rushing to impeach him again?

Katie Hopkins: Well.

Barry Nussbaum: As if you're going to get him out of office early?

Katie Hopkins: Yeah, you're so right, I mean, watching it. I'm watching what you're watching. I see many of us are. This rank hypocrisy of Maxine Waters standing there casting aspersions about Trump when we know very well that she was the one that was telling the mob to go get his cabinet.

People were standing up for that 30 seconds or one minute—no one's listening to anyone. No one's really written those words themselves. They're just looking for a round of applause. They want something they can post on their social media later.

Also, listening to that place, give applause to people who agree with them, but shot down people who don't. What is that about? Since when do we just applaud people that we happen to agree with? So horrible to see.

Horrible to see the Constitution being wrecked in this fashion and horrible to see impeachment, as you say, being trivialized as if it's a trip to Starbucks. Where is the process? Where is the investigation?

Where're the eyewitnesses. You know all of this glamor I was here being shot at, you know, all of the drama. Where are the facts, and where is the reality?

Barry Nussbaum: The critical question you just touched on it a second ago, Katie, one of the GOP members, stood up and said, "I'm sorry, we're impeaching the president of the United States in this debate.

Where is a witness, even one single witness that took part in the breach of the Capitol and is willing to come into this chamber and say, I did it because the president wanted me to or because the president told me to?"

And the guy was quiet for a minute, and it was crickets. They don't have one single solitary bit of evidence other than we hate that guy, and we've got to run through an impeachment because, God forbid, he serves out the next week in office.

Katie Hopkins: Absolutely. It seems to me Barry they've made it their aim. They're going to brand the president as the only president to be impeached twice. That's all they want. It's the label they want so they can try and discredit the last four years and all the great work that was done.

And what you're absolutely right in saying, I was asking kind of a broader question, where were the individuals who were at the rally peacefully? Who knew nothing about the Capitol building and what went on there? Where was the media for those guys? They just cut off the voices of those that don't speak according to the script.

Barry Nussbaum: And here's the big question. The Senate has made it clear that they won't even be back until the day before the inauguration, which means they couldn't even consider an impeachment until the 20th, which, by the way, is Inauguration Day, right?

So, what is this about in regard to when it gets to the Senate? Impeachment is to remove from office someone unfit for office. If the guy is out of office. That's like digging up the dead guy in the cemetery so you can shoot him again.

Katie Hopkins: Yeah, absolutely. I think that the Senate leader has said and is very pragmatic and very practical that at 1:00 p.m. on the 20th, which is exactly the moment that that pass over to Biden will have occurred, making it, as you say, utterly meaningless as anything other than an exercise in futility. An exercise in sounding off by members of the House.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, let's talk about the other side of the equation, Katie. Those representatives are sitting in the people's House to do the people's business. I'm referring to the House of Representatives.

Where do you think Americans are at this point? Republicans are so disgusted. They're talking about, some of them on the right, the conservative movement. Saying, to hell with these guys, we're going to start our own party.

Which very well may happen and will guarantee the Republicans will never win again. The last time that happened, Ross Perot prevented George Bush, the older one, from being reelected, and that is what put Clinton in office. Splitting the party never works. Where do you think the public sits right now? The Dems and the Republicans out in mid-America?

Katie Hopkins: So funny you say that Barry. I was just talking earlier to someone, and one of the things that really grates me about listening to these idiots, if I may, as a respectful outsider, is they keep using the phrase 'For the People' or 'We the People.'

I want to kind of yell at them that the distance between them in that chamber and the people has probably never been greater. For 80 million Americans, what relevance do those individuals have?

As I talk to you looking out at the Florida beachfront here, people are just getting on with their lives, trying to make things work, trying to keep a job, trying to keep money coming in. This nonsense is exactly the sort of thing that turns people off from politics.

Barry Nussbaum: Oh, boy, does it ever, and let's talk about the specifics. I mean, you were there last week, and we did a show, a series of shows in the last couple of days with Will Johnson, who was also there. I've gotten probably a dozen maybe more emails and messages from people that were there.

As you've described the MAGA assembly when Trump spoke, you said it was peaceful, it was family-oriented, it was moms, dads, wives, kids, grandparents, and the riot was a mile away. As you said, it happened before Trump even spoke. Do I have that right?

Katie Hopkins: Absolutely right, Barry. Two very separate, two distinct events. Many, many people went home at the end of the day or earlier in the day because they were cold. They had nowhere to go, and it wasn't until they turned on the TV.

It wasn't until they got reception on their phone because, of course, no reception, all those people, that they saw what had gone on. And they could hardly believe it because they were only, what, a few miles away. Yet, they knew nothing about any of it.

I think that's such an important point to make and the next day they peacefully went home. Actually, my heart goes out to them because a lot of those people used their money to fly to the capital, buy a hotel room, and now look at the way they've been treated.

They were there because they are loyal and because they wanted to believe and have hope, and now they've been smeared, and they had nothing to do with any of this.

Barry Nussbaum: Does the truth matter anymore? As I'm listening to you, I mean, you were physically there, and you saw it was a happy, patriotic day. It could have been the Fourth of July, except it was cold.

I saw the thousands of American flags and people hugging, marching, singing, and praying. It was very, very calm, and peaceful, and they even cleaned up after themselves. When I look at the summer of violence, death, destruction, and mayhem, there wasn't one single hearing in the House or the Senate to condemn anybody that did any of that.

Now President Trump is somewhere up there, along with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and other great world history criminals. I made these analogies because those are the names that are being thrown about in regard to Trump. Relating to an event that he wasn't at, that he didn't promote, that he didn't suggest. Have we gotten to the point where the truth no longer matters?

Katie Hopkins: Well, I, of course, I'm always going to be a believer, but I think two important things, Barry. Number one, being inside the offices of Congress with people that you and I know and respect.

One of the things that was made very clear to me is the level of hostility against the congressmen and women who are still standing with Trump or are standing for the truth. We see images of them not going through the metal detector or not wearing a mask.

It's this mob trying to get them out based on insurrection or whatever. The second thing, and I think this is the uplifting bit we always look for Louie Gohmert's Chief of Staff, she said, you know, because I was floored when I arrived at that office.

She said, "Katie, you know, we just live our truth every day, and every day you live your truth, you're walking in the light." I find that really uplifting, like every day is a new day. Every day we tell our truths, and we recognize that for a lot of people out there, we are a long way from those truths.

Barry Nussbaum: You know, really good advice, not the easiest thing in these dark days, Katie, to remember, follow and live by, but it's certainly something to aspire to. So, thanks for sharing that with us, and thanks for coming on today for Katie and Barry's chatfest about politics, as crazy as they might be.

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