Clare Lopez Reveals the Merger of Communists-BLM-Jihadists
Barry Nussbaum: Welcome to ATP Report. I'm Barry Nussbaum. We are back with our very special guest and friend of ATP, Clare Lopez. Clare is one of those treasures in American foreign policy. She knows everything about foreign and domestic terrorism. And today we are going to learn about some really scary stuff that is behind the scenes causing the trouble in the streets from coast to coast. Clare is the founder of her own organization, Lopez Liberty, LLC, and she's a treasure. I'm thrilled to have you back with us, Clare. This is going to be part one of two where we're going to talk about the red, black, green axis. Clare, welcome back.
Clare Lopez: Thank you, Barry.
Barry Nussbaum: So, you've got red, black, and green. Real quick, tell us the thesis behind the idea.
Clare Lopez: Right, so red refers to the forces of communism, Marxism, Leninism, Maoism. So it includes the original thinking of the philosophers, all the way up to the current day, the Communist Chinese Party. The Black is the Black Lives Matter movement, which is an umbrella movement. It incorporates many groups within it, and it is very much allied with and founded by a Marxist, a self-avowed Marxist communist. And then finally, the green is the Islamic movement in the United States, led by the Muslim Brotherhood, which has been keeping more of a low key posture lately, but very much connected behind the scenes to all of this.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, let's start. Let's start with the red, the Marxist, Leninist, pro-Maoist insurgency. It's a revolution, and it's here. How would you define the communist movement that's here? Who fronts for it? And why don't we hear those words?
Clare Lopez: Well, you know, I think that after the collapse of the Soviet Union back in nineteen ninety-one, many of us thought, OK, we're done with that. The Soviet Union is gone, it collapsed, we're finished. Well, the USSR collapsed, but communism did not. And of course, communism goes all the way back to the 1917 revolution in Russia. And the ideology that it was based on taken from Marx, and then, of course, developed, implemented by Lenin and by Stalin. All of that did not go away. And it permeated our society even as we were distracted with other things like 9/11 and the Islamic terror threat. So in the schools, the universities, behind the scenes and the textbooks, this was being promoted and taught, and we just weren't paying attention.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, as you said, you don't hear the Communist Party, the American Communist Party anymore. You hear the Democrat Socialist or Democratic Socialist farmers or the various new names. But the ideology seems identical.
Clare Lopez: Well, and the Communist Party USA, the Revolutionary Communist Party, are still very much alive and well, and it is from them. You asked who fronts that? Well, Antifa fronts that. I don't think people probably know, but it was the Soviet Comintern Communist International that sent Antifa to the United States first way back in the 1930s.
Barry Nussbaum: And they're still here probably proclaiming they're against fascism, and yet they behave every bit as belligerently and anti-social as Hitler's brown shirts in the thirties. Anyone that dissents may get their head broken or their store broken into or whatever.
Clare Lopez: Well, we do need to make a distinction because it was the Antifa in Germany or Antifachistische is the German faction that fought in black shirts against the Nazi brownshirts as they were both rising through the 1930s? Today's Antifa and its offspring, which is the Black Lives Matter movement, are ideological descendants of the original Antifa on the streets of Germany and Italy and Spain of the 1930s.
Barry Nussbaum: But violence on both sides, and it's literally out of control. That's what makes it so anti-social. You don't argue with someone that has a pipe coming at your head, as many people are learning. So let's talk about their relative, the Black Lives Matter movement, not Black Lives Matter as a statement. I'm referring to the movement that you rightly said is run by, well, self-avowed Marxists who have been trained in Marxism.
Clare Lopez: Exactly. And the three founders of the Black Lives Matter movement, which was back about 2013, 2014 after the riots in Ferguson, Missouri, are three African-American self-avowed Marxists, Alicia Garza, Opal Tometi, and Patrice Cullors. And videos have surfaced recently in particular of Opal Tometi down in Venezuela with socialist-communist Nicolas Maduro. Videos of the Patrice Cullors from a few years ago declaring openly, "We are trained Marxists." Now, do all the kids in the streets with those pipe bombs and the bricks and everything else, do they know this? No, they probably don't. But it doesn't matter because they're being used very effectively by the leadership that does know that this is communist Marxist on the streets of America.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, and I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime, and I'm sure you would agree. Once or twice there were outbreaks, but it's coordinated, it's organized, it's extremely well-funded and incredibly well coordinated.
Clare Lopez: Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I would also say that today's Black Lives Matter movement adherents are the ideological descendants of the 1960s Black Panthers. You had people like Bobby Seale, Huey P. Newton, Stokely Carmichael going over to Beijing on a regular basis to meet with the communist leadership of China. They are the ideological descendants to this day right now.
Barry Nussbaum: All right. Let me stop you before we talk about the green part. Here's what I don't get, Clare. Ninety percent of Americans believe either overtly or passively in capitalism, in the idea of freedom, in the idea that if you work hard, you get to keep it. If you don't work well there, it's going be a safety net, but you're not going to do really, really well. In other words, socialism and obviously communism is antithetical to the way they think. So how is it possible that this very radical ideology has taken hold so completely from coast to coast? They can turn out thousands and thousands of people in the street from coast to coast in all major cities. What has happened?
Clare Lopez: Let's go back to those forty-five goals of communism, right? And that one about getting control of the schools, the curriculum, the textbooks, the teachers' unions. That's what happened because they don't teach what communism really is or how every single place and time that communism, socialism has been forcibly imposed upon a population what happens is horrific, a collapse of society—dead people by the hundreds of millions. Yes, I said hundreds of millions of dead people because it doesn't work. But they're not teaching the kids that. They're not teaching how it has failed in every single place, even currently to this day in Venezuela, collapse, complete collapse. Instead, what are they telling them? Well, there will be a forcible redistribution of wealth, and all the rich people are going to have their wealth taken away from them. And property will be held in common. And the banks will be taken apart. OK, and then everything will be free, free education and free stuff, right? Isn't this what we hear to this day by those who propose these things? The Bernie Sanders bots, the AOC of the world, what are they promoting? Free stuff. But they never talk about the history of what communism and socialism really does to a population in places like the Soviet Union, communist China, Cambodia, and right today, Venezuela.
Barry Nussbaum: Thanks, Clare. I really appreciate your time.
Clare Lopez: Thank you.
Barry Nussbaum: And thank you for joining us on ATP Report. Clare tell people how to find you, would you please?
Clare Lopez: Yes, I'm working on a web site which I don't quite have up yet. So in the meantime, you can find me on Twitter at Clare M. Lopez. I'm on Parler as well at Clare M. Lopez on Facebook, also with my name. I publish at the United West, videos also at Sharia Crimestoppers. And you can find videos and writing of mine at the Citizens Commission on National Security, CCNationalSecurity.org.
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