Anti-Semitism Explosion…Mr. Beat and Barry Explain Why!
Barry Nussbaum: Good evening and welcome to the Truth Report an American Truth Project. I’m Barry Nussbaum. We have an incredibly special guest today we have the Mr. Beat, Matt Beat directly from the heartland of America. We’re going to talk about his incredibly successful video on anti-Semitism that’s been seen well over three million times around the world in the year it’s been out. It is an extremely well-done analysis on what it is and how prevalent it is. and it could not be a more important topic today. Mr. Beat, thanks for joining us tonight.
Matt Beat: Thanks for having me. Very glad to talk to you tonight.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, it’s our pleasure and our honor to have you with us. So, give us a little bit of a quick background on who Mr. beat is and how you came to create a video that millions have seen.
Matt Beat: Well I’m a teacher. I teach high school social studies and I’ve taught for 10 years. I also have a journalism background and started my YouTube channel way back in 2011. I made this video mostly after teaching world history for a while and just noticing I mean sure hate goes around to all kinds of different groups but why is it time and time again that this one group is consistently targeted. So that’s kind of always fascinated me but I finally decided just to do some research and turn it into a video. And so, this has been my most successful video. I think mostly because it’s kind of a click bait title. You know I could have worded it differently, but I wanted to get people watching it. Unfortunately, there’s been a lot of people who are anti-Semitic who have watched the video. So, it has a lot of dislikes a lot of really horrific comments. Some people criticize me for leaving those comments up but honestly, it’s too much for me to sort through. Last I checked there was let’s see, eighty-eight thousand one hundred and sixty-nine comments. So, and also, it’s kind of nice to have all these horrific comments in one place so that you know if there’s ever any authorities that need to like kind of look up some IP addresses they know where to go.
Barry Nussbaum: You’re a troll farm for hate.
Matt Beat: I am, and it’s been I pretty much tune out the negative comments but there’s been some positive comments as well. I’ve got some good reception for it and I’m not Jewish. Like, it’s amazing how so many people just assume that I am because I’m you know defending a group of people whose. consistently targeted. So, I think those are the most interesting comments to like. They just they talk about my appearance. They talk about assumptions of you know where I’m from, stuff like that.
Barry Nussbaum: Well let’s jump into it. And like I said I’m a great admirer of your work. It’s a profoundly well-done video that I encourage all of our viewers that will be watching this around the world to go check it out really quick. Mr. Beat tell people where they can go watch what we’re talking about.
Matt Beat: Oh, my channel is called Mr. beat. Just a search on YouTube and you’ll find it. The URL is YouTube.com/Iammrbeats or if you just search my name and anti-Semitism, the video will pop up. Thank you for saying such nice things about my video by the way.
Barry Nussbaum: Well it is that well done, and quality and insight deserves to be recognized. So, let’s jump into it. Matt what is it if you were to take away a couple of answers to the following question, what would your educated response be? Why is America experiencing so much anti-Semitism? And then we’ll go to the rest of the world. So, what are your what are a couple of takeaways from that.
Matt Beat: Well I think there’s two takeaways that I’ve noticed about anti-Semitism today. The first being momentum. I mean it really started with the exiles of the Jewish people and their homeland and you know this is before the time of Jesus. This is hundreds of years before when they were consistently exiled time and time again. And then it carried over after Jesus with the earliest Christians. You know, them classifying people based on their religion and so when people think of this in a vacuum it’s ridiculous. I mean that’s why I try to go back with the history in my video as much as I could. But honestly, I didn’t go back far enough and that’s one thing I could have done better. However, the second part of anti-Semitism today I think is probably more relevant, and I think it usually revolves around Israel. It starts with Israel and whatever Israel is doing. People at first, they will criticize the Israeli government and you know it’s OK to criticize governments of course especially when they’re doing things that are hurting people. But then over time people become more radicalized and they start to target all Jewish people. So, it starts off like with legitimate criticism of a government and then it just morphs over time and then of course it’s not just Middle Eastern countries where you see this because with the Internet these days anybody can access this stuff anywhere. So, that’s why I think it’s spread so much.
Barry Nussbaum: Let’s localize to the United States. Let’s start there because I think it’s a different cause although there may be some relation. What I see especially in the last say half dozen years is an explosion of intolerance by what is now called the progressive left within America. If you are different in any way, you’re probably the reason why that person is upset and there’s a long list of grievances especially on college campuses that people have. And in many cases, they have the reason why. With the election of Donald Trump several years ago Trump became the why for almost every problem in America whether it was anti-Semitism, in other words the president is anti-Semitic and encouraging that behavior, It was racist behavior because he was, it was anti Hispanic because he hates Latinos, it’s anti female because he’s misogynist, and so on. When in reality and in the factual interpretation you’ve never had a president United States with a Jewish daughter a Jewish son-in-law and Jewish grandchildren until Donald Trump. And not just Jewish but observant Orthodox Jews who literally work with him in the White House every day. In addition, you’ve never had a president that’s done more for the state of Israel than Trump. So, people that call him out as being anti-Semitic might as well be calling him you know a three-headed lizard. It has about as little semblance of fact to it. And yet anti-Semitism is exploding and at least among the progressive left. What are your thoughts on that?
Matt Beat: Well it’s interesting. I mean, in my video I have a little clip from Vice where they it’s the the the white nationalists that are anti-Semitic and which they’re not happy with President Trump because of you know family members who are Jewish but and almost like they’re in denial. But I think it’s interesting there are like you said there are elements of that on the left as well. And this is one area where the horseshoe theory I think is true where you have kind of extremes on both side them. extremes on both sides come together to share with their hate. On the left I’m not sure if I know too much about this because I haven’t researched this too much but from what I’ve seen a lot of it like what I said earlier, it’s rooted in anti-Zionism and then it kind of radicalizes from there. So, on the right I think it starts its probably related to ethnic. you know the the white nationalist kind of strain, I guess.
Barry Nussbaum: Well let’s talk about the progressive left for a minute. There is a profound anti-American sentiment. In other words, the American system of capitalism is bad. The American system of wealth creation is bad. The American foreign policy of protecting certain allies around the world is bad. The American immigration system that doesn’t open the borders to everybody is bad. And so, there is a complete what would you say, maybe a rejection of what has made this country what it is? And everything is different in the minds of the progressive left in order to save the country. And ironically and I’m sure you’ve seen this and maybe you teach in the classroom when you ask kids what you like about socialism other than they get more things they readily don’t know, and they can explain it. And the ones that would classify themselves as communists and point to communist successes around the world are so tragically misinformed by your fellow teachers Mr. Beat. It’s very discouraging that they’re not learning in the classroom what communism really is.
Matt Beat: Yeah, it’s funny you say that I actually have another video I made about the difference between Capitalism Socialism and Communism and that’s also been a pretty successful video. I think those terms get thrown around all the time and they have different meanings and so people don’t even know what they mean when they say socialism or communism. Like I think a lot of times we should just all realize that we’re against authoritarianism. Ultimately that’s what the Soviet Union was, it was just authoritarianism, it was totalitarianism, and I think hopefully most of us agree that’s a bad thing. We don’t want that kind of thing to happen again. And so, I also teach economics and so I don’t even use those terms very often because they’ve kind of lost meaning especially the word socialism. It’s either something that some people or embrace or other people say it’s the evilest thing ever. And so, I basically say hey we have a mixed economic system where sometimes the government steps in sometimes other times it doesn’t. And I think that’s actually more accurate.
Barry Nussbaum: And I agree and when you add the idea of why you aren’t successful and why you don’t have what you want. It’s quite easy to pick a minority that historically has been the reason why. In other words, Jews have been scapegoats as you said for three millennia. Since before the time of Jesus in in ancient Israel.
Matt Beat: If there was just one group of people that has been kind of consistently persecuted throughout world history what’s the first group that comes to mind to you.
Interviewee 1: The Jewish population.
Interviewee 2: The Jewish people.
Interviewee 3: The first group I probably think of with that would be the Jewish people.
Matt Beat: Almost every single one of my colleagues said the same thing. They said the same group was the one that first came to mind when they thought about groups that were targeted throughout world history.
Barry Nussbaum: Small group, easily identified, not assimilated, quite easy to pin all the world’s woes on it. And there’s something else I think we should add in regard to the new progressive movements within this country. It has sprung up largely and almost exclusively in the beginning on college campuses where hundreds and hundreds of millions if not billions of Middle Eastern oil money has been invested in departments who have created an educational system based on the fact that Zionism is bad, that Islam, is good. What has been largely if not completely whitewashed is that Islam, unlike Christianity that is largely reformed over the last thousand years as you and I know, Islam has the death penalty associated with anyone who wants to change the word of the prophet. So, if Muhammad says Find the Jew and kill him. The Jew is your enemy. Make him your slave. Take his women as your sex slaves. Kill the men or sell them as slaves. Anyone that doesn’t follow that and suggests a change. is an apostate and subject to the death penalty. So university after university with Islamic Studies departments that are teaching this are literally infesting the education of America’s youth who then become America’s young and then mature adults with the concept that the people that live here that helped build this country are somehow the enemy of God. And I think that’s a big part of it.
Matt Beat: Yeah, you make a good point about the how Islam has struggled to modernize whereas Judaism and Christianity they’ve modernized. They’ve they don’t take the old text literally. I found it interesting some of the comments in my video kept mentioned and just read the Tolman, just read it. I’m like okay, but like you realize we don’t have to take these ancient texts literally anymore, right? If you read the Old Testament, like oh my gosh there’s some horrible things in there like how to treat your slaves and stuff like that. So that’s pretty revealing if you’re focusing so much on ancient texts that like that’s what’s driving your hate.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, it’s really important. You make a very important comment there Mr. beat. Which is the difference between the ancient texts and the sociology or maybe the political science of that application today. In other words there is no country in the world that is Christian in its orientation that believes if you kill someone for adultery, or you cut off their hand for thievery, or you can buy or sell slaves, or you can beat your children and your women to death, you can kill someone for leaving Christianity. Judaism has no application of any rules like that. Islam, that’s today’s Islam. If you are a Muslim, you self-identify as a Muslim, and you give up your faith publicly you’re subject to the death penalty. I mean that literally. If you are a man and have three or four wives and you don’t like the way they’re acting, hey go beat them up. There are specific instructions and there’s videos on YouTube on how to beat your wife or how to beat your children. Female Genital Mutilation would not be tolerated in a Christian, or a Jewish, or a Buddhist, or an agnostic society, but among Muslims it’s to be expected. You mutilate your Muslim daughters, so they don’t enjoy sex. So, there’s been a change in the world. Whether it’s reformation or modernization or just evolution, the other religions have changed in Islam hasn’t. And so, if Islam is teaching within our culture, you’re going to get a difference of opinion. And eventually what has happened just a few months ago with the election of very outspoken prominent Muslims to Congress who are preaching the beauty of Islam literally lying to the American public, it becomes well kind of mainstream. And their anti-Semitism gets a lot of press. Why would you say Matt. that it hasn’t been condemned in the press other than by say opposition party members? You have a thought on that?
Matt Beat: I can’t really, I don’t know enough about that. I will say that it’s probably not the best to paint too broad of a brush because there are two and a half billion Muslims in the world. And when we talk about Saudi Arabia Muslims there and we compare them to Muslims in say Indonesia you’re going to get quite a difference. And so, there are secular Muslims. I think when we talk about extremists who are fundamentalists meaning they take these texts literally I think it’s important to say it’s not all doom and gloom. This is I think a fairly small group of people. There are a lot of peaceful Muslims that are actually fairly secular. They don’t take all this old stuff seriously. As far as what’s going on in the United States, I can’t really, I guess I don’t know much about that so like I can’t really comment too much on that.
Barry Nussbaum: Well it’s interesting you mentioned Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is the biggest funder of American universities with foreign money and their brand of Islam is called Wahhabism. They are very extreme, and they are as you pointed out literal in their interpretation of Sharia which are the books of Islam. The vast majority of Muslims in the world aren’t strict interpreters. word for word, but with two or three billion and the number that’s usually batted around is 8 to 10 percent are strict in their interpretation. That’s a lot of people.
Matt Beat: Yeah, I’ve seen figures like that too. That’s a little scary. I have another video comparing Saudi Arabia and Iran. I’ve always been fascinated because you know Iran is seen as this evil country. Like George W. Bush said that they were after Iraq and North Korea they were like the other evil country. But actually, the younger people there are not quite as radicalized. They’re not fundamentalist Muslims and I think that’s promising too. Even in a country like Iran you’re seeing a lot of them reject this. Because you know it wasn’t that long ago it was the revolution that happened there in the late 70s that tried to bring a return to a more conservative fundamentalist based theocracy which, they still have a theocracy. But I try to I guess see the more positive. Because when I hear 8 to 10 percent, I am skeptical, but I’ve heard that from several places and so if that is true that is scary.
Barry Nussbaum: Well I’ll tell you, you mentioned Iran which I happen to know quite a bit about. And it’s important to differentiate between the Persian people as it were, and the government of Iran. Most of the Iranians that are young, and they have an enormous population under the age of 30, does not want the theocracy anymore does not want the strict interpretation. They don’t want the women in the hijab, and to be covered, and to be beaten. They want equality of the sexes. They want to go back to the way it was before they were born. Unfortunately, the government that’s in control of the money, and the army, and the missiles, and the nuclear program every single day runs pictures and videos on their mass media calling for the death to America and the death to Israel and they mean it. And as long as they’re in power, if it’s two weeks or two hundred years Mr. Beat, that’s who we have to deal with. You know like Netanyahu says all the time we don’t have a problem with the people of Iran. We have a problem with the government of Iran that says they’re going to kill all of us. And that’s an issue, right? And that is you is not anti-Israel. It’s anti-Semitic. In other words, they’re not being just critical of well Likud won and we wanted Meretz or the blue and white party because we have a different political opinion. No, they want all the Jews in one place so they can all be killed easily with several nuclear weapons, and they’ve said that very prominently in the press for years and years and years. And like you said earlier that’s not anti-Israel. That’s anti-Jewish and anti-Jewish means anti-Semitism. And that’s what we’re talking about rather than the political end of it. How much would you ascribe to a religious background of the Anti-Semitism? You talked about it quite a bit in your video which I thought was a terrific history lesson about the church from the very early days of the church in the third and fourth century coming up with laws making Jews not citizens, can’t own property, can’t vote, can’t testify in court, basically disenfranchising them as equal members of whatever society they were talking about.
Matt Beat: Yeah I mean it was over a period of hundreds of years, but I think one of the examples that I think is telling is how because they couldn’t own property or because they were shut out of society so much, one of the only things they could do to make a living was money lending. And so, this is that story that old stereotype of the Jewish money lender has roots in anti-Semitism. That was the only way they can accumulate wealth. And I think as far as the Martin Luther thing really disturbed me. Like I never had realized how anti-Semitic he was. And I mean just his own words like you know the on the Jews and their lives that pamphlet. It’s just. Holy crap. And this is the guy who’s the hero that led the Protestant Reformation. And as you know that’s the majority of Americans are Protestants. They’re not Catholic. There’s still 20 some percent Catholics in the United States and most my family’s Catholic actually, but usually the early anti-Semitism that you saw like up until the middle ages was the Catholic church kind of gets associated with that. One response to my video was that it was just a few bad actors, like a few bad popes or bishops or whatever. And I agree with that. I mean it wasn’t systematic. It wasn’t everybody in the church. But the fact is because of the fact that there was no separation of government and in the Catholic Church in many parts of Europe and like the Middle Ages and before that just happened. I mean yeah, they went hand in hand anytime there was if you discriminated against Jews because they weren’t going to Mass every Sunday, then also you’re discriminating them with laws. So, they went hand in hand and that just carried over like I said earlier. That momentum carried all the way up into the present day.
Barry Nussbaum: And you know the irony is I see these proclamations all the time especially coming out of Europe. And as well unbelievable lies from certain prominent members of the of American society either in Congress or like we talked about, a guy like Farrakhan who can say such outrageous things. That Israel is an apartheid state, Muslims have no voice, and their babies are sterilized, or they’re sacrificed to drain their blood for Passover. I mean just outrageous lie after outrageous lie and yet those people are no longer censored for it. They still have their Twitter accounts they’re still up on Facebook. Their videos are on YouTube. And as you’ve said their comments are almost unbelievable in what they’re saying. And I can tell you as someone who’s been to Israel many times there’s only one country within a thousand miles where everybody gets to vote, and where there is true equality among religions, where there’s true equality among the sexes, where there’s true equality in employment, in voting, in politics, in all of society and that’s Israel. There are no Jews in government in any country around Israel. And yet, there’s a Muslim on the Supreme Court in Israel.
Matt Beat: Yeah there’s a lot of Muslims who live peacefully within Israel. That’s something that I’ve learned fairly recently. I have a pretty balanced perspective on the Arab-Israeli conflict. I mean, I took a class in college where my teacher was Israeli. The class was called Arab Israeli conflict and we looked at the whole history. And then his best friend was Palestinian, and he came in and taught a few courses and they taught together it was beautiful. But I also have a friend whose dad was a Palestinian refugee and then ended up in the United States after spending many years in Jordan. So, I get it, I think you and I both agree that Israel has made their government has made mistakes. But I think the net positive as far as bringing this modern democracy to an area that doesn’t have much of it you can’t deny that. I mean I wish that it would spread. Again, Saudi Arabia not too far away and it’s pretty it’s disturbing to me that they’re such a big ally with the United States and yet a lot of the way they run like you know women couldn’t even drive in Saudi Arabia until just this past year.
Barry Nussbaum: If you as a Catholic. Whether you’re practicing or not, but you would you would self-identify probably culturally as Catholic. If you went to any of those countries, I mean this literally, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Morocco any of those places, God forbid Iran, and started saying hey how come the priests can’t conduct mass anymore? How come Catholics are being systematically excluded from government, from property rights, from ability to assemble, the ability to communicate with other Catholics, in a very short order the secret police would visit you. The religious police would visit you. You would end up in prison or deported on the low end. In other words, if you hadn’t been a very prominent organizer, they would kick you out. And if you were prominent your body would never be found. And I mean that literally. And it’s very common for anyone preaching religious equality or equality of the sexes or. God forbid you want gay rights; you would end up dead. I’ve been to the Gaza border and seen the building that Hamas throws the gays off of. And it’s a three-story building. And the reason they do that is they don’t want them to die easily. They want them to suffer horribly and a big crowd gather. And they do that as a demonstration as to how evil it is to violate the Word of God. which means they will kill you slowly so you set an example so other people don’t think they should consider a gay lifestyle. It’s horrible and if you haven’t seen it it’s hard to believe.
Matt Beat: It is hard to believe I have not. I have not heard about that. That’s crazy.
Barry Nussbaum: Well I am trying to remember which country it was in the Middle East I don’t want to quote it because I don’t want to be wrong but in one of those countries the leader just announced we don’t have any gays in our country.
Matt Beat: I think it was Iran. I believe if I remember correctly,
Barry Nussbaum: It very well could be.
Matt Beat: Also, atheists. They don’t have any atheists in their country. Yeah, right. They just don’t come out because they know they’ll be in trouble.
Barry Nussbaum: Well it’s not just it’s not trouble like you pay a fine it’s trouble like you’re, and your legs are broken, and you’re whipped and if you survive, you’re a lucky guy or lady. It’s horrific what the punishments are if you’re outside the coloring book lines.
Matt Beat: Sorry I just have one big final point I’d like to make is that I think all these hate hateful comments and there are a lot of anti-Semitic comments and under my video and it is disheartening. But I think it’s important to remember that these are just human beings and they were taught to hate. They were taught by somebody else. And if we want to break the cycle, I think we need to communicate with these people. It’s like if you show like you at least are trying to respect them and listen to them. Now the people that say hateful things it’s hard. I mean I understand why you would not ever want to talk to them but I’m an outsider. I’m not somebody who’s personally being attacked for being Jewish. I’m being attacked for making a video. Because if you censor them too, I could just turn to I could just take off all the comments. That’s going to empower them. Because then they’re going to dig in their heels deeper there and go see, they’re censoring us. And so, Jews really do control the world yada yada. I think that one of the worst things you can do is like censor them. Let them be heard, let their hate be heard to the world, and hopefully over time they’ll realize on their own like look around and like maybe this is wrong what we’re doing. Maybe I overreacted. maybe I was taught this by my dad or my brother or who else. So, I feel like the way to go about it is education and that’s what I try to do.
Barry Nussbaum: All right so if you an audience now, the same three or four million people that saw your anti-Semitism video, but let’s just say Now Mr. Beat these are people that are the haters that are posting all that stuff underneath your video that you’re a puppet of the Zionist world government and all that kind of stuff right? Well Mr. puppet what would you say to them to communicate with them that their belief system is based on ancient prejudices that have no place in a modern world?
Matt Beat: I would say just talk to somebody who’s Jewish and I have Jewish friends and they’re not secretly running the world I swear. They’re just normal people they think. Man, I just want to understand. You know I try to understand more about where this hatred is coming from and keep asking them questions really. Because like I think that’s what drove me to make the video make the video in the first place is just, I was not raised this way. Understanding why they were raised this way, but we’ve got to break the cycle the cycle continues, and I think the same thing with the Arab / Israeli conflict. I mean we’ve got to communicate. If we just stay in our bubbles you know then it’s not going to help anything. Both sides have to come together and at least communicate.
Barry Nussbaum: I would add I agree with everything you said. I love your idea. I would add one more thing and that is from a historical perspective each time there has been a targeting of Jews whether it was twenty five hundred years ago, two thousand years ago, a thousand years ago five hundred years ago, or the Weimar Republic you know in Germany it was because there was a problem. And the government or whoever was in charge whether it was the church or the mosque or the central government. It’s easier to give people a reason why they’re not doing well outside of themselves and outside of the government because you can point over there. That’s why you don’t have a job. That’s why your student loan costs so much. That’s why your housing sucks. That’s why your car breaks. That’s why you can’t get ahead. It’s easy to target a group that’s identifiable, not very large, and might look different, talk different, sound different, worship different, and so on. It’s much easier to stay in power. The Russians did it, Soviet Union, the Germans did it, the Iranians are doing it, and now the progressive left at the same time as the right-wing white supremacists are doing it. As you called it, a horseshoe. I thought that was a really insightful comment. The hatred from the left meets the hatred on the right and the reason why they don’t have what they want, it’s because of a group over there that they can identify instead of taking responsibility for their own lives and their own situation and saying hey I’m going to be better. I’m going to get educated. I’m going to work harder. I’m going to reach out and figure out how we can do this together make the world a better place. It’s easier to say not my fault it’s your fault.
Matt Beat: Yes, I agree. Yeah. So economic opportunity is going to have to be getting rid of poverty is going to really help more than anything. Let’s be honest here. Yeah. Because like you said, if somebody is struggling to like you know medical bills, college, student loans, inflation, wages are stagnant. Wages have been stagnant my entire life. So, OK this is blaming that group of people for that like it. If these people, then have some something to complain about then they won’t have someone to blame. Like instead of blaming governments the ones who have the power, we look to the side and blame other groups of people isn’t that amazing? It’s always people that are like the other one. It’s usually a group that doesn’t have power. It’s a minority group that doesn’t have much political power. And it’s because they’re an easy target oftentimes.
Barry Nussbaum: Matt, it’s been great having you today. Tell our viewers where they can find you and where they can go to see your stuff and support you.
Matt Beat: Yeah just look me up on YouTube it’s just Mr. beat. And thanks for having me on and saying nice things about my video.
Barry Nussbaum: We will definitely do it again. I want to thank our viewers today who subscribe to American Truth Project and obviously I encourage anybody to go to our web site, American Truth Project.org or the easier way to find it Findbarry.com takes you to our Web site. Sign up for free. You can watch more of Mr. beat and other very wise and insightful guests by going to that site signing up and we’ll send you for free. It never cost anything. Again, thanks for joining us today Mr. beat and thank you to our wonderful viewers. I’m Barry Nussbaum, and this is the Truth Report.