Anne Marie Waters Explains The Sharia Courts Horror in UK!
Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP Report. I'm Barry Nussbaum. Our very special guest today, Anne Marie Waters, is a politician, she's an author, and she's someone who is becoming more and more famous throughout the United Kingdom for her new political party. I'm going to let you hear it directly from her. Anne Marie, welcome to the show.
Anne Marie Waters: Hi. Thank you very much for having me.
Barry Nussbaum: So tell me about your political party first.
Anne Marie Waters: Yes, it's called For Britain. So I started it two and a bit years ago. It will be three years old in October. I started it after I ran for the leader of UKIP, which is the UK Independence Party, which your viewers will probably know best as the one led by Nigel Farage. I ran for the leader of that. I was the bookies favorite to win. It was very much looking like I was going to win. There was a lot of controversy. Their elected officials were saying they were going to walk out if I won. The press went crazy about this. Nigel Farage came out and publicly called me a racist, Nazi, and several other things. And in the end, I came in second, which was huge, actually, considering I had really just thrown my hat in to see what happened. And I came second, and I realized that UKIP was not for me. I wanted out. I was tired, actually, of waiting for other people to say what needed, saying. I was tired of asking for permission to say what needed to be said. And I thought that's it. I'm my own leader now. So I founded my own party to be able to say the things that I've spent the last ten or fifteen years saying and consistently being rebuked for it, even though everything I say is true. So I got a bit tired of the political correctness inside UKIP, believe it or not. It's known as sort of to the right of the conservatives. But even they won't allow you to talk about the things I was talking about. So I left.
Barry Nussbaum: Let's talk about those issues. There is a common saying now that England isn't England anymore. Tell our viewers in the US., what does that mean?
Anne Marie Waters: It means a lot of things, really. There are still a lot of parts of England which one would recognize as England, but there are parts of it that are simply unrecognizable. You simply wouldn't realize you were in England. And it's not an exaggeration to say that. It's true. There's a thing that we call white flight, which is when, for example, when mass immigration from Pakistan and Bangladesh started in the 50s and 60s. They came into neighborhoods and didn't necessarily want the white natives living there. So there have been several campaigns of throwing dog poo through people's letterboxes, harassment, trying to get rid of the white people. So you have this separation, and we now have a multicultural Britain is what we call it. What it actually means is a completely divided Britain. We have black living over here, white living over here, Pakistani Muslim living over here, and an increasingly fractured society. I'll give you an example. Our second city, Birmingham, the second biggest city in England, has fifty thousand people in it who don't speak a word of English. That is a huge number who can't speak any English. And that's just in one city. So we're a very divided country at the moment. And there's a huge divide between the small minority who want more multiculturalism, more immigration and the majority who don't. But unfortunately, the minority is in charge.
Barry Nussbaum: In terms of those numbers, let's talk about the Islamification of Great Britain. What was the Muslim population, say, thirty years ago versus what it is today?
Anne Marie Waters: Well, it doubles every ten years. At the moment, it's around four, five percent we're told. It was two and a half percent ten years ago. The country is 65 million, so I don't know quite what that number is, but it doubles every ten years, which is the significant element of it. And we have increasing ghettoization. But of course, with the demographic of Muslims growing, we also have a growth of increases in demands for Sharia law. There are many ways in which the UK is being Islamized. This is the main one.
Barry Nussbaum: Let me stop you on that question because that is exactly the issue that we're facing here in the US. Our viewers understand that Sharia, which is the application of Islamic dictates from Mohammed, is very frequently, if not always incompatible with Western jurisprudence.
Anne Marie Waters: Yes, it is.
Barry Nussbaum: And Sharia, you can have slaves in Sharia. You can kill your wife or daughter in certain cases. In Sharia, you can practice female genital mutilation. There are just so many things that that Americans who are uninformed will go, "No way. That's not possible." So when people learn what a Sharia court is about, they don't have much enthusiasm. What's the sense of that among the general populace in Britain?
Anne Marie Waters: They're horrified by it, truly horrified by it, but the disconnect between the public and the press slash politicians could not possibly be wider. The press and the politicians live in their own little worlds in Westminster, and they are completely disconnected from what the public thinks. People are absolutely horrified by the fact that we have Sharia courts in the UK.
Barry Nussbaum: Wait a minute. The Sharia courts are operational now?
Anne Marie Waters: Yes, we've had them since nineteen eighty-two. Now they are, they're not illegal. Legally it's difficult, but I'll explain this as best I can. We have a thing called the Arbitration Act, and the Arbitration Act allows for people to privately settle disputes so that they don't go to the courts. The main reason is to keep people out of the court's expense, etc. So you can set up an arbitration tribunal, and you can appoint an expert on a topic. So if it's a land law issue, then you'll appoint a land law expert, and they will hear both sides of the story and make a decision. This decision then can be upheld in the real courts if it was to be challenged. It can be upheld in the real courts, provided it meets a list of criteria laid out in the Arbitration Act itself. Those criteria are that it must be compatible with English law overall. So the parties will have to have the same equal status, for example. It would have to be compatible with English law in terms of child protection. It would have to be compatible with criminal law.
Barry Nussbaum: But it's not.
Anne Marie Waters: No, it's not. And everyone knows it's not, but it just carries on.
Barry Nussbaum: So if a father, let's say, sells his daughter to somebody that she is now instructed to marry. In no Western world is that acceptable. It's akin to slavery. If a father did that, and the little girl runs away. The guy that bought the new bride is angry because he didn't get the benefit of his bargain. If he goes to a Sharia court and the Sharia court says, "No, no, young lady, you go back to your new husband." What happens when that gets to a real court? Don't the judges just come down with a hammer?
Anne Marie Waters: The judges would throw it out. The judges would deal with it in accordance with English law. The problem is it's not getting to English law. It's completely separate. They're living entirely separate lives. So you have people in this country growing up from birth to death entirely under Sharia. It's unlawful, most of what they do, but nobody stops it. And if a woman, for example, who was mistreated by a Sharia court and she somehow found the self-confidence to insist upon her rights under English law, she would get them. The problem is you're dealing with already battered, beaten down women who don't know the laws of the country they're living in. They are completely isolated and have no idea of their rights. So they're acquiescing with this. They're going along with it because they don't actually, for many cases, know any better. It's separate. It's unlawful. Most of it is unlawful, but it happens because nobody is willing to stop it. I mean, if you think about it, you know, gang rape is illegal in this country, too. Nobody was willing to stop it. FGM is illegal in this country. No one is willing to stop it. And the reason they're not willing to stop it is that they fear violence in the streets. I know that this is absolutely true. We know that if we came down hard on child marriage or FGM or any of the other horrors committed with impunity, there would be rioting in the streets. We know this. We know this, and that's why they won't do it.
Barry Nussbaum: Anne Marie, how can our viewers follow you and stay up to date on what you're doing?
Anne Marie Waters: My party website is ForBritain.UK. We are completely unique in this country, and we're growing enormous popularity. We're hated and hated is a strong word, but it's appropriate. We're hated by the far left. We're hated by the far right. As far as I'm concerned, that's exactly where we need to be. That's exactly where I want to put us. We've got a real problem here. We have a real problem with an increasingly fracturing country. There is no unity here. We are now a country where we are covering up Winston Churchill because he's deemed controversial. The BBC now refers to Churchill as a controversial character. And they will come for it in the United States. I have no doubt they will come for Washington. They will come for Jefferson. They will come for Lincoln. I believe they are already attacking Lincoln in the name of Black Lives Matter. You can't make this stuff up. You really can't. The ignorance is extraordinary, but they will. And when they come for Washington and Jefferson and all the rest, they will come for the Constitution. I have no doubt about it. Be very careful. We all rely on your Constitution.
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