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Iran Seizes More Ships…Is War Coming?


Graham Ledger: Page Six now. The U.S. Iran war of words. The radical terrorist Iranian regime is now trying to convince rational observers that the United States did not shoot down one of Iran's drones. Instead, Iran wants the world to believe that the U.S. shot down one of our own drones by mistake.

Reporter: The U.S. Navy warship has shot down an Iranian drone in the Strait of Hormuz Thursday. U.S. President Donald Trump says the drone came within about 900 meters of the USS Boxer; an amphibious assault ship seen here earlier this week.

Graham Ledger: And so that's really the question, where is all of this headed, right? Military or not? Clearly, Iran is trying to provoke us, trying to pick a fight. Question is motivation. What is the Iranian regime's reason for recent provocation? Joining me now, the founder of the American Truth Project and Daily Ledger contributor, Barry Nussbaum. Barry, we just found out that Iran has now apparently seized another oil tanker. This would be a British flag oil tanker. So that throws out one of my theories of why this provocation. I suggested that possibly they were trying to divide the allies. Well, when you go after one of our allies, you're going after us. So that's out the window. Are they doing it maybe to spike the price of oil? Possibly. But there may be a more fundamental reason behind this recent aggression that fits into the pieces of the radical Iranian regime.

Barry Nussbaum: Graham, I think you are hitting the nail on the head. For all of world history seizing another country's vessel on the high seas has been always interpreted as an act of war, not a provocation, but virtually a declaration of war. Going all the way back to wooden ships with big sails, it's no different today. More explicitly an answer to your question. Some years ago, I was briefed by a senior official at CIA who said what they're most worried about in regard to Iran is the fact that it's a fundamentalist Islamic regime that believes in and wants to encourage the apocalypse in the Bible, Armageddon. And the Iranian mullahs believe if they can start it and they go down as martyrs, they will go to a special place in heaven that Mohammed has made reservations for them. In regard to what they're doing it almost seems as if they are begging for war. How many ships need to be attacked? How many oil facilities need to be attacked? Hell, they blew up the airport in Saudi Arabia through their Houthi proxies and there was no retaliation. So, each step becomes more flagrant and at some point, Graham and I fear it's going to be soon, we the west, especially the United States, will need to respond and it will be militarily, and it will be significant.

Graham Ledger: And I believe that also in this equation, maybe they're testing the forty-fifth President of the United States testing to see how far they can push him. And they ought to be careful with that, because I see a retaliation, not unlike what Ronald Reagan did. I believe it was in 1986 when he said that's enough. And he virtually took out the Iranian navy. But here's the president talking about the drone attack, the fact that we shot down a drone. And the question that Iran is raising, whether it was a U.S. drone or an Iranian drone, roll tape.

President Donald Trump: No doubt about it. No, we shot it down. We have the greatest people in the world. We have the greatest equipment in the world. We have the greatest, most deadly ships. We don't want to have to use them, but they're the most deadly ships ever conceived. And we hope for their sake, don't do anything foolish. They do and they will pay a price like nobody's ever paid a price.

Graham Ledger: So how do we define foolish here now, at this point? They shoot down or we have to shoot down an Iranian drone. They've taken one tanker and now they've taken one of our closest allies’ tanker. I guess we have to wait and see how far you push this president. But the bottom line is this Barry, I think we can decipher that these sanctions that have been put on Iran, I think is part of the motivation here of them, of them doing these provocative moves.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, it would seem as if they're trying to create a better hand in their poker game. More aggression, more provocation on the high seas. Thinking, well, we'll back down and give them relief from sanctions if they stop being aggressive. What they don't understand is Trump is right. The United States Navy is the most deadly fleet ever to sail the high seas. l literally in under an hour the entire Iranian navy could be on the bottom of the ocean should that decision be made. And if they turn it loose, which they're pushing really hard on Trump, as if they're daring him to do it, then where will Iran be with no Navy, Graham? And that is a real possibility if they continue this aggression in what they call their sea, the Persian Gulf.

Graham Ledger: If there is any kind of military strike, whether large or small, look for Iran to try and provoke Israel into the conflict as well. And if that happens, look out because all bets are off. Barry, thank you.


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