Barry Nussbaum: Hello, and welcome to ATP Report. I’m Barry Nussbaum. I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. We’re glad you’re back with us after a meal with your family, friends, and loved ones. Before we bring on our special guest, I want to remind all of you in ATP land if you haven’t already done so. Please take out your cell phone, text the word truth, and send it to the number 88202. You’ll be signed up for this and all of our content absolutely for free. You’ll get it in the palm of your hand every time we post a show.

With that said, I want to bring on Robert Spencer. He’s America’s expert on jihad, and he’s the expert on jihad around the world. He’s the publisher, editor, and writer of not only Jihad Watch but over two dozen books. He’s got a new book out he’s going to tell us about. Welcome back, Robert.

Robert Spencer: Thanks, Barry. Good to see you.

Barry Nussbaum: Same here, buddy. So, let’s start with an article that you’ve done some research on. The U.S. has warned Israel that its attacks on Iran’s nuclear program are, quote, “counterproductive,” according to the New York Times. U.S. officials say they are warning Israel against attacking Iran and stopping the nuclear program.

So, here’s what I don’t get, Robert. The JCPOA guarantees, eventually, Iran will get nukes. Everybody knows that JCPOA failed. Iran is producing uranium at catastrophic levels, and it could be days away from a bomb. Yet Iran is barreling ahead and refuses to compromise. Why should Israel listen to the United States and keep its hands off Iran?

Robert Spencer: Literal, we shouldn’t do that, obviously. What the Biden administration is trying to do is restore the nuclear deal with Iran because Trump dropped it. They want to show that they know better than Trump and can do everything better than the stupid amateur that they think of him as. They are the professionals, the experts. They know how to run foreign policy.

They’re determined to appease Iran and restore the nuclear deal at the expense of Israel, which of course, as we know from Obama’s first two administrations, first two terms, they’re very hostile to Israel. The people in the government now, in Obama’s third term, they’re just as hostile, if not more so, to Israel. So, above all, they don’t want to see Israel doing something that will keep them from appeasing Iran-in their view, showing up Trump.

Barry Nussbaum: Boy, is that the truth? The P.A., the Palestinian Authority, as you note, frequently pays out generous monthly stipends to imprisoned terrorists and to the families of terrorists who might have died while committing their attacks. The more serious the attack, the more Israelis killed, the more money the P.A. pays out. In other words, it pays to kill people if you’re a Palestinian. The martyrs get a fortune, and the descendants get the money if they don’t make it. The rumor is the P.A. is going to stop this pay-for-slay program. Do you believe it?

Robert Spencer: Not a chance. It’s just window dressing to try to curry international favor, which they don’t even really have to do. Because in the United States, we have the Taylor Force Act, which forbids money being given to an entity that funds terrorism, which should mean that not a penny of American taxpayer money goes to the Palestinian Authority, but the Biden administration has turned on the aid spigot.

Billions of dollars, millions of dollars, at the very least, are flowing to the Palestinians from American taxpayers in total defiance of the Taylor Force Act. Nobody is calling the Biden administration to account for violating the law in this way.

Barry Nussbaum: Excellent point, Robert, and shame on the opposition in Congress for not standing up for the law named after the American soldier Taylor Force, who was killed by a terrorist in Jerusalem several years ago. So, every time I think about the press finally getting the story right, it becomes a factual report rather than a bias.

I read a story like the one you published in Germany. The back story is there was an attack by a terrorist in the Old City in Jerusalem. This Hamas terrorist opened fire on pastor Byers with a machine gun. He killed one Israeli. He shot three others, and the police finally killed him. So, what did the German news say? “A Palestinian was shot dead today.”

Robert Spencer: By Israel.

Barry Nussbaum: It’s real, it’s true, but without the back story, it sounds like cold-blooded murder.

Robert Spencer: That’s the idea.

Barry Nussbaum: At what point does the truth matter here?

Robert Spencer: The truth doesn’t matter. The establishment media outlets in the United States and Western Europe are just propaganda arms for the hard left, hostile to Israel, and hostile to the United States. So, anything that they can publish that will undermine American interests and make people hate Israel. They’ll go with it, factual or not.

Barry Nussbaum: It’s pathetic, and it’s true. So, I’m going to ask you about two of your books. Let’s first start with, Did Mohammed Exist? We talked about this some weeks ago. Quickly tell our guests that are tuning in today. What has the response been to that book? It’s a very controversial subject, so give us a quick thumbnail of what the book’s about and what kind of reaction are you getting with it?

Robert Spencer: The book is an examination of the early history of Islam to evaluate the historical reliability of the records of how Islam was founded and the life of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam. It essentially finds, which other people have found in the past, that there is very little historical value to the Islamic texts about Muhammed. Islam does not seem to have come to exist in the way it is described as coming to exist in the canonical Islamic sources.

The response to this has been a great deal of hostility, some threats, people saying that I have insulted Muhammed and thus should be killed, and so on, but one interesting thing that nobody has managed to do is say that the book is wrong. As a matter of fact, there was just a fellow who made a video not long ago that was brought to my attention.

So, I went ahead and watched it. He’s purporting to refute the whole book, and what he does is he finds that in the beginning, the introductory section of the book says that Mohammed had three daughters, and actually, he had four. That is true.

It’s a mistake in the book, but an editorial error came from a phrase being dropped out by mistake. It has nothing to do with the actual point of the book at all. So, even if you were to grant that it’s just some idiotic mistake by the Islamophobic Spencer, it doesn’t do anything to refute the substance of the book itself. This is the kind of quality of the responses we’ve been getting.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, it’s pretty much what I expected. So, I understand you have a new book. Let’s give our audience a quick Robert Spencer book report on Robert Spencer’s new book.

Robert Spencer: Yeah, it’s called The Critical Quran, and it is an honest translation of the Quran plus commentary that draws from the mainstream Islamic commentaries on the Quran because I’ve found over the years that when I quote the Quran, Muslims almost invariably respond, you’re taking it out of context.

So, I go to the Islamic commentaries to show what the context is and how it’s understood. The passages of the Quran are understood, according to the mainstream Islamic scholars of the Quran. This book is designed to elucidate for people in the West who are not Muslim what it is about Islam that gives rise to terrorism and all these other human rights abuses that we see.

It shows where they are all rooted in the Quran itself, when many other translations have obscured, often intentionally, these passages of the Quran that are violent, misogynistic, or anti-Semitic, and so on.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, let me ask you this. This sounds like not only fascinating reading, but it should be required reading. I used to ask for a show of hands when I would speak to a large group about Islam, and I’d say how many people have read the Quran, and it would be crickets. Is your book a good place to start to educate people on what they should know?

Robert Spencer: Yeah, that’s the idea of it, that it’s an essential guide. I remember years ago people saying the Quran doesn’t really teach beheading. It doesn’t really teach terrorism. It doesn’t really teach wife-beating, and so on. Every time people would quote something from the Quran, you’d find people writing in mainstream media sources denying it. This book shows what is in there and how it has been understood throughout Islamic history by Muslims themselves.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, that seems to be on the ATP required reading list. Is the book out?

Robert Spencer: It’ll be out in the middle of December. I just got my author advance copies recently, just a few days ago. I can tell you it looks very nice, and it’ll be available. It’s on Amazon now for preorder, Barnes & Noble for preorder, and it’ll be in bookstores in a couple of weeks.

Barry Nussbaum: Thank you for doing that, and I’m advising all ATP families out there, coast to coast, and around the world that are watching today. Go get this book. You need to know who and what you’re dealing with, and there’s no better scholar on this subject than Robert Spencer. Robert, tell people where they can find out more about what you’re doing. You mentioned where we could get the book. What about the rest of your writings?

Robert Spencer: Yeah, JihadWatch.org, I give news and commentary about jihad activity in the United States and around the world updated daily. Also, on Twitter @JihadWatchRS, I sometimes get into some Twitter wars that some people might find entertaining. Also, there’s a jihad watch page on Facebook.

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Happy Thanksgiving. I’m Barry Nussbaum.

Jamie Glazov: Good evening. Welcome to The Glazov Gang. Tonight, we’re talking about Biden’s enabling of Hamas’s terror against Israel. With us this evening and back by popular demand, Barry Nussbaum, the founder of the American Truth Project and the author of the new book Because You Asked. Barry. Welcome back to the show.

Barry Nussbaum: Jamie, it’s such a pleasure to be back with you, my brother.

Jamie Glazov: Thank you so much. It’s a pleasure to have you back during these very frightening times. I think it is a word we can use. Barry, we want to talk about how the Dems and the left once again are aiding and abetting evil, aiding and abetting terrorism. Before we get to that, let’s just start in general. What is happening in Israel?

Barry Nussbaum: Oh, boy, it’s bad, and it’s getting worse. Jamie, I had sent you over some comments earlier today, suggested what we could talk about. At the time I mentioned there were fifteen hundred rockets fired from the Gaza Strip against civilian population centers in Israel. I need to correct that. I was wrong. It’s now well over two thousand missiles.

Now, these are not harmless firecrackers. Each one of these can blow up a house, a bus, a school, a civic center, a judicial center, etc. They are massive explosions when they land. Over two thousand have been fired, all against civilian targets. Jamie, this is literally the biggest crime against humanity, and a violation of all international law, including the Geneva Conventions.

And while we sit here on the air talking about it, most Israelis from the north all the way to the south are underground in bomb shelters, fearing for their lives. That’s what’s going on in Israel.

Jamie Glazov: And while that’s going on in Israel, the world overall indoctrinated, of course, self-intoxicated with this indoctrination they’re actually, as always, condemning Israel, which is the real victim in all of this.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, it’s really amazing. It would be as if you watched the bank next door get robbed and the press reports alleged robbery at Bank of America. Tellers are blamed and are encouraged to be nicer to their customers. That’s literally what’s happening. Israel is now striking back very heavily and the audacity of the world press and even more so the world governments who say both sides should just simmer down. It’s insane.

Jamie Glazov: Yeah, absolutely.

Barry Nussbaum: If somebody wants to kill you, you don’t write them a letter.

Jamie Glazov: Absolutely. And look, just these lies continue over and over again. This big lie of how Israel somehow took somebody’s land and the Palestinians had their land, you know, taken away and Israel had expelled. You know, all of this is just lies.

We’ve gone over this so many times, those of us truth-tellers, you know, after the First World War, we know that the land was just carved up from the Turkish Empire. We know that the Arabs were offered their own state in 1947. We know that they had rejected it. It’s just, these lies continue, correct? That Israel has somehow taken somebody’s land and is in on somebody’s land. Right?

Barry Nussbaum: But yeah, there’s a little background that’s really important, Jamie. The latest violence, which is now literally a war, don’t call it anything else, because it’s not is being justified by the Palestinian side, because there’s a court case in Jerusalem over the eviction of several families from some housing that they obtained illegally some years ago that were Jewish homes that were confiscated by Arabs.

And the Jews want it back. That’s a cover-up. The cover-up that they’re trying to hide from public view is there. There were supposed to be Arab elections in the West Bank, and the dictator for life, Mahmoud Abbas, who is the President of the Palestinian Authority, canceled the elections again. When I say again, Jamie, he was elected for a four-year term for some 16 years ago or so and has never had an election since he decided he owns the Palestinian Authority. Why?

Because it’s a great, great moneymaking venture in the well, in the model of his predecessor and his mentor, Yasser Arafat, who they think died one of the richest men in the world from all the money he had stolen from the EU, the UN, the United States, and the Arab Gulf States.

So, Mahmoud Abbas, who’s really close to the end of his life, wants to go out in a coffin from the presidential palace rather than voted out of office because, you know, democracy, that’s for the little people. We don’t believe in it in the Palestinian Authority. So how do you distract your people? Well, start a war. And so they did.

Jamie Glazov: Yeah. And we know that Abbas well, there’s lots to say. But I’ll say this one thing. Abbas pays millions of dollars to terrorists who kill Israeli civilians.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah. And let me brag for a minute on that subject about our forty-fifth president of the United States, Donald Trump. He had the chutzpah to say to Mahmoud Abbas in the White House, Jamie, stop paying terrorists to kill Jews, or I’ll cut off American money. What did Mahmoud Abbas do in the Oval Office?

He looked at the United States. He said, “I promise,” got back to Ramallah, where his offices are, and basically flipped off the President of the United States and upped the payments to people who kill Jews. And for those viewers of The Glazov Gang that don’t know it, the ‘pay for slay’ program is literally one of the largest parts of their budget.

They pay Arabs to kill Jews. And if you get killed in doing it, your family makes more money than a doctor, a lawyer, a government official, and an engineer for life. And they buy you a house, and they take care of you.

Jamie Glazov: I wonder if this has anything to do with the religion of peace. Now, look, Barry, you brought up Trump. So, let’s get to this here. Trump, what a heroic nobleman. What a great president he was. He cut off and froze the money. He froze the funding to this death cult. He stopped it. And we didn’t see what we see now.

And so, I wager that if Trump was in office right now, this would not be happening. What happened is Biden, and the Dems get in a couple of things here. We know that the Democrats whose Biden surrounded by the voices, the noises, people like Rashida Tlaib. People like Ilhan Omar, that’s the ideology there.

He resumes the funding. And of course, there’s, in my view, there’s some wink wink’s going on here. We know that there’s a deep anti-Israeli hostility among the Dems and the Biden people. This is really just Obama’s third administration.

And one thing I’m thinking about, all those rockets that are killing and maiming and terrorizing Israeli civilians, who pays for those rockets? Well, hey, the money that Biden unfroze and is sending, it’s all interconnected. I would say that the Biden administration has blood on its hands. What do you think?

Barry Nussbaum: Extremely intuitively, well, said Jamie Glazov. The money comes from two sources, Iran, which we can’t wait to give billions to and we don’t know for sure, but supposedly some money has already been transferred. They make no bones about it. And it’s not a secret. They are funding the missile program.

And get this, Jamie. Last month, Biden gave between two and three hundred million dollars to the Palestinians with no strings attached. And the Palestinian leadership talks about the fact the money is coming, and we’re building bombs and missiles. It doesn’t take more than a fourth-grade education to put the pieces together. This is one hundred percent on Biden’s desk.

Let me add one more thing. This will blow you out of your seat. I waited all day today for condemnation of the missiles being launched from Hamas against our closest ally, Israel. Biden said two things. Number one, “Israel has the right to defend itself.” Okay, that was pretty good, kind of low-key, but pretty good, not the way Trump would have said it, which is stop now, or I’ll send the Sixth Fleet.

He would have said something like that while he’s moving the carrier groups towards Israel and the Palestinians. But the second thing, Jamie scares the crap out of me. He said, “I would like to see a reduction in the number of missiles flying out of Gaza targeted against Israeli population centers.”

Now, there’s been over 2000, Jamie, and each one can blow up a bus house, an apartment building, a bank, whatever. Biden didn’t say, stop it now, or else. He just said, “Hey, kill a little less number of Jews, send a little less number of rockets, and I’ll be happy.” So, if you’re the Palestinians, the gangster Muslim theocracy That is running Gaza, what would you do?

You’d go, “Well, let’s just shoot a few less, it’ll make the United States happy, and we’ll keep getting money. He didn’t tell us to stop it. He just told us to send less missiles.”

Jamie Glazov: You know, just kill, kill a few less Jews, you know, kill a few of them, just not so many. You’re absolutely right, Barry. Let’s just picture rockets coming from Canada and Mexico into Los Angeles or Detroit or, you know, somewhere in Dallas. This would not be tolerated. It would not be tolerated, arguably in any country in the world. But when it comes to Jewish people in Israel, they have to tolerate it according to the international community. Right?

 Barry Nussbaum: Yeah. Let me ask you a question, just hypothetically, considering your background, if the Ukraine or Belarus sent one missile, one into Moscow. What would Putin do? One missile. They absolutely would be a parking lot.

Ukraine would not be occupiable for a generation. He would send in the bombers and the Spetsnaz, and it would be over. Now, two thousand or some number have launched in the last four days into Israel. And I don’t just mean into the fields and starting fires and the crops in the south of Israel. They’re targeting Jerusalem. They’re targeting Tel Aviv. They’re targeting Ashdod.

They’re targeting the port in Ashkelon. And get this, they have shot missiles at the international airport, Ben-Gurion, which is now closed. And the Hamas leadership has said we would shoot down international jumbo jets. This is a war crime of international proportion. And the UN, the EU, and every government run by a sane individual starting with ours ought to be condemning this from the rooftops. And what do you hear?

Jamie Glazov: Crickets, absolutely Barry. We’ve got to go. We got to bring you back here to talk about this and many other things. Israel was not on its own with Trump. Trump was had Israel’s back. Now Israel is all on its own. If they were if the Israelis were calling you, asking you for your advice, what would you be telling them to do?

Barry Nussbaum: I’ll tell you the same thing I told the Israelis I’ve been talking to for the last two days, do not leave Gaza. With Hamas still in control and the ability to cause terror, they started it. The Israelis need to finish it once and for all.

Jamie Glazov: I think it’s important to mention…

Barry Nussbaum: And the Palestinians will be safe.

Jamie Glazov: I think it’s important to mention how all the peaceniks and the left-back in 2007-2008, when Gaza was given out, we’re saying, “Oh, just give them Gaza and there will be peace and everything will be okay.” Now, look what’s happened, right?

Barry Nussbaum: Tragic mistake. When Ariel Sharon became prime minister and thought he could trade land for peace, there had never been a rocket fired from Gaza until the IDF withdrew the troops from Gaza, and as soon as they left the radical maniacs took over.

It’s a gangster theocracy of radical Islam like the world has never seen. It is a hellhole, and quite frankly, it’s got to be stopped. And the only people to do it are the IDF. And they’re there as we speak right now.

Jamie Glazov: Thank you so much, Barry. Our audience cannot get enough of Barry, Nussbaum, and Barry Nussbaum is a genius and a hero who has a new book out. Everybody wants to order it. Where do they go?

Barry Nussbaum: Thank you so much for the great PR. I so appreciate you. It’s called Because You Asked. It’s about my take on current events and what I think the right actions should and could be. And it’s on Amazon. Just go to Amazon.com and look up Because You Asked. Look up, Barry Nussbaum. You’ll get the book, you can order it. It’s just really cheap. And tell me what you think about it after you get a good read.

Jamie Glazov: And everybody should be going to the American Truth Project. Right?

Barry Nussbaum: I would appreciate it. Anyone that hasn’t subscribed yet, you get our content for free. Jamie, just take out your cell phone and text the word TRUTH in the message box and send it to the number 88202 and you will be signed up for free. You get all of our content for free, and you’ll spread the truth about what’s coming out of America.

Jamie Glazov: And what’s the website?

Barry Nussbaum: American Truth Project.org

Jamie Glazov: Okay, fantastic. Last question. Maybe the most important question Barry. What is your secret to being so cool? A lot of people ask me that.

Barry Nussbaum: Hanging out with Jamie Glazov, duh!

Jamie Glazov: Okay, Barry, thank you very much. Thank you for your nobility. Thank you for your courage. Thank you for your truth-telling during these frightening and scary times.

Barry Nussbaum: I appreciate you having me on.

Jamie Glazov: Thank you. And thank you for joining The Glazov Gang this evening. Please keep in mind that all of this YouTube persecution of The Glazov Gang, we’ve just had enough of it. We’re over at Rumball now. Go to rumble and search The Glazov Gang and subscribe to us there and click instant notifications. We’ll see you soon. Good night.