Europe Bans Covid Vaccine
Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. It's another Katie and Barry show with the beautiful, brilliant, and talented Katie Hopkins joining us from sunny southern Mexico. Hi, Katie.
Katie Hopkins: Thanks for saying those nice things. Yes, it's great to be here in Mexico because the people here have to work to eat. They're still out there out and about very different than locked down Britain.
Barry Nussbaum: I bet. Speaking of Britain, there is a massive controversy on the European continent, and it concerns a difference of opinion between the UK and the EU.
There are incredible numbers of reports coming out of Europe relating to the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine causing, literally, brain clots, seizures, and deaths, and the EU has a different opinion than the UK. Let's start with this. What countries are involved, are upset, and are now restricting the use of the vaccine?
Katie Hopkins: Well, the list Barry is, I think, shocking in itself. I'm just going to read you through the ones that we know of for certain right now, Austria. Austria, actually, we should pause on because Austria had three women under the age of 45 all have very serious and traumatic clots after having the vaccine.
One of those went on to die, two had to go to the ICU. Austria was really the starting point. Okay, the list of countries that have now suspended it Austria, Estonia, Latvia, Luxembourg, Lithuania, Romania, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Netherlands, Ireland, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Slovenia, Cyprus, Sweden has all banned the AstraZeneca vaccine.
Barry Nussbaum: Wow because it's causing clots in the brain and seizures in the brain. Is that correct?
Katie Hopkins: Yes, it's a sort of a deep vein thrombosis, which some I don't know. My mom, for example, had DVT in her little legs because of her veins. So, it’s clotting in veins, but then at a very serious level, clearly causing the death of certain individuals. There are different stories going on, Barry.
In Germany, the Minister of Health has come out and said that the incidence of clotting after taking the AstraZeneca vaccine is three or four times higher than it should be, i.e., in a normal population. That seems to be the story that's coming from these countries that have suspended it.
However, official data, AstraZeneca, the British government are all saying, "No, no, no, that's nonsense. There's no more incidence of clotting than you would expect." Which one do you believe?
Barry Nussbaum: I don't know. I mean, neither one of us are doctors, but when you have almost the entire continent of Europe and countries on the other side in the British Isles all saying no more use of the vaccine.
This is not a rumor. This is not something minor. This is not something statistically, numerically inappropriate to base a country's policy on. This is some serious stuff.
Katie Hopkins: I mean, it really is, and the other thing, Barry, I really feel we lose track of this. We get so far down these rabbit holes, right? No, take the vaccine. This population is that. This population is that. There are this many clots in this many people.
The real conversation, I think, or at some level, is, were you more at risk from COVID, or are you now in a worse position because you had the vaccine? What I mean is we've gone a long way away from 99.7% of people who could have COVID and have no serious side effects and be perfectly fine.
So why do you then find yourself taking a vaccine and then having a vaccine that ends up in the example of Austria with you either in intensive care or losing your life when for a 45-year-old woman, COVID was typically not going to have any impact on you whatsoever?
I mean, it is just gut-wrenching, and it's gut-wrenching for me, Barry, that the British government is still pushing this vaccine on people as we speak. People are receiving this vaccine as others suspend it, and Boris Johnson says, "Oh, they are just being kind of childish about the fact we voted Brexit.”
He says, “It's in retaliation for Brexit.” I mean, are we talking politics here, or are we talking medicine and health? Which is it, you know, or is it crossed?
Barry Nussbaum: Well, you know, that's a really interesting comment because I think your insight is right. It's spot on when you have them, well, I guess you'd call it the people's reports pouring in from country after country after country.
And finally, the Governments across Europe are saying immediate emergency halt to all inoculations using this formula. Then the UK is off in a field by itself, saying, "No, no, no, it's just politics."
When country after country after country after country after country, which you listed. I can't even believe the list. It's growing daily, are suspending the use of this. It's not politics. They're trying to save lives. Right?
Katie Hopkins: Right.
Barry Nussbaum: The vaccine presents a risk to the population that is worse than COVID. In other words, in the eyes of the legislatures, the ruling parties, the governments of these countries, or all of the above, say you're more at risk from the vaccine than you are from getting a very bad flu, which happens to be called COVID-19.
Ergo, take the risk of the vaccine away if you get COVID, well, you have a better chance, and you're not going to get a brain tumor. That should be really, really disconcerting, don't you think?
Katie Hopkins: Absolutely. I think and geographically speaking, if I see this from a British perspective, we have Ireland who is just rubbing shoulders with us. It's the little island next door to us. Ireland is saying, "No, we don't want it. We won't have it."
So, our closest neighbor, part of Great Britain, is saying "No," and yet England is still persisting. One of the things I always want to ask politicians at this kind of juncture, I'd love to be in front of them, in their face, you know, and ask them, would you give it to your child? You know, and I don't mean the baby or something.
That's outrageous. But I mean to your twenty-four-year-old son? You're thirty-five-year-old daughter? Would you give them this vaccine? Because I really wonder about that. Do politicians preach this out to the people but then protect their own? Are they making sure that their family members don't get this particular sort of vaccine because it's high risk?
And why are people prepared to take these risks with their own lives? Do people value their- do we brainwash them so completely that they lost all sense of what is good for them and what is bad? I think the answer to that clearly is, yes, we did. You know, people have been brainwashed, and it really has worked.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, let me ask you a question that I ask everybody this, and nobody gives me an answer that is logical, at least in my perception. Maybe such a wise woman as yourself will be able to answer for me.
If everybody is getting the vaccine, right? And you believe it works. You don't want the vaccine, right, but everyone else has it. Why are people so mad at you for not getting it? In other words, if you get on a plane and you're the only one on the plane without the vaccine, and everyone else has it, then they're immune, aren't they?
Why do they want to force it on you? Why do they not want you to travel? Why do they not want you to be able to interact with businesses? Why do you have to be segregated if a vaccine works? Then it works, and if it doesn't, well, then it doesn't and don't get it. Can you explain that? Because I don't understand that concept.
Katie Hopkins: Right. It's an absolutely bonkers notion when you start to pull back to any arguments the left has used historically to fix my body, my choice. You know, that then gets ripped up when it comes to this scenario because this is something, they do want you to believe in.
Actually, on my plane journey here to Mexico, I read this pamphlet off of leaflets that someone sent to me from inside our socialized health care system. It was essentially a script for how you persuade people at different ages that they should have the vaccine. So, it was basically like the sort of a way of convincing people that don't want to have it why they should have it.
It gave horrible examples of how your grandchildren will be more proud of you if you have it than if you don't, kind of emotive coercive manipulation techniques for persuading people to have it. So, you know, you add that kind of scripting that's coming from inside the NHS to a vaccine with proven detrimental health side effects, and suddenly this is real evil that's happening in front of our very eyes.
I think you and I would both say it wouldn't be something we would be going anywhere near. But then, of course, people say, "Well, I want to be able to go on holiday. I want to be able to go to a bar or restaurant." They start to, you know, British people are already accepting there's going to be a vaccine passport.
Are you going to be part of the in-team that has got it, or are you going to be left on the outside? That's the sort of conversations people are having, I guess.
Barry Nussbaum: So why? If you know or can explain it to me, do I have to get it? If you got it and you're immune, and I can't infect you, why do you care if I have it?
Katie Hopkins: I think it's this weird sense that if you don't, you might persuade someone else they shouldn't. Then if they persuade another two people, they won't either. Then all of a sudden, our system of ultimate compliance and state control will fail. I think that's where masks have been such a good way for the states to be able to test.
Can I get people to comply? In the British example, every single time they've realized, yes, we can. We can take this from them, and they'll say nothing. We can mask them, and they'll say nothing. As long as we keep paying them, they'll do whatever we say.
It makes me very ashamed, Barry, that that is certainly what's gone on. And that sense of coercion from your neighbors is absolutely strongly felt in the UK.
Barry Nussbaum: Well, thanks for explaining it to me. It's horrifying if that is the right answer because that is really scary because it's a very slippery slope to totalitarianism when that kind of logic is accepted by the majority of our citizenry.
Katie Hopkins: We wanted to tell you one other thing, Barry, sorry to dive in. I just saw it on the news. I think it's been pushed out hard. A professional sort of celebrity cellist has had his vaccine saying, get this for his scripted narrative. Had his vaccine, he was so overwhelmed with emotion and joy at having the vaccine.
He got in his cello and started playing a cello concerto in the room where he had his vaccine, and the media just happened to be there to film it. So, vaccines make you play cello concertos. Okay, good, good. Just normal. Fine.
Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, and that was just a coincidence that they showed up with camera crews.
Katie Hopkins: Oh, just pure chance, Barry, pure chance.
Barry Nussbaum: Thanks, Katie. I sure appreciate your time today, and I appreciate your insight; and I hope you're wrong, but I don't think you are. Sadly. So, thank you for Katie Hopkins today, and thank you for me, Barry Nussbaum, for joining us on ATP Report.