Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. It’s the Katie and Barry show, which means joining me from London, England, is the fabulous, beautiful, and highly opinionated, brilliant Katie Hopkins. Good afternoon.

Katie Hopkins: Good afternoon, Barry, and a very good afternoon to all of our ATP family. And thank you for joining us.

Barry Nussbaum: Let’s talk about Governor Cuomo. Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse for the guy, he’s under an avalanche of problems, which may very well result in his removal from office. We have a Cuomo-gate with massive deaths caused by his idiotic executive orders.

He put everybody that was old, that had anything related to COVID in lockdown in these facilities they couldn’t get out of, and it killed thousands of them as a result. Let’s start with the fact that apparently, his donor friends put up a lot of money, and he gave them special privileges as a result. What do you know about it?

Katie Hopkins: Absolutely. It seems, you know that this is really I mean, these facts are just printed everywhere for everyone to see. It’s not escapable, this. These are facts that are there that are undeniable. He was funded two million dollars by the greater New York.

I’m just checking Greater New York Hospital Association GNYHA, GNYHA two million pounds to Cuomo. Four hundred and fifty thousand sorry, two million dollars to Cuomo, four hundred fifty thousand dollars to the New York legislature.

As an overview, it seems that because of their donations, he then started to manipulate and work the system in their favor, Barry. It is not looking good at all.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, the magnitude is enormous. I mean, look, political payoffs happen every day, but it’s really rare that it causes the death of thousands and thousands of people. He passed these insane executive orders that nobody could justify locking up people in old age care facilities.

People who had COVID, who had advanced age, who had compromised immune systems, and the families couldn’t get in. Pretty soon, you had these care facilities where half the people in each building had COVID, where before there was one or two. Then they started dying like crazy. The word is 8 or 9 thousand official deaths. It could be as many as 15,000 caused by this.

Katie Hopkins: Yeah, and it’s much worse in that regard because before that happened, Cuomo was smart. If you’re thinking of smart in a very malevolent way, by protecting your donor. He introduced this litigation or this sort of a shield from litigation.

Shielding the executives, his donors from any litigation against maltreatment of patients or elderly in these care homes. If I can just read to you, and this was printed in a left-wing journal today as a fact against Cuomo, “Shielding hospital and nursing home executives from the threat of lawsuits would remove a deterrent to cost-cutting, profit-maximizing and decisions that endanger lives.

So essentially, by removing the threat of litigation, these cost-cutting decisions were enabled, and that’s why we end up with 15,000 plus deaths in care homes.” And then, of course, Cuomo’s personal assistant came out and said, “Yes, we hid those numbers in order to protect him politically.” I mean, I don’t know how it could be worse. This is very bad. These are very bad times for Cuomo.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, what’s really amazing is while he was killing off thousands and thousands of people with a really bad policy.

Katie Hopkins: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: The accolades were pouring in, so his public relations were kicking butt. He got himself nominated for an Emmy and got himself a book deal. CNN was high fiving him like crazy, like he was fantastic. At the same time, no investigations were going on about all the people dying.

Katie Hopkins: Exactly, and, you know, I was in New York on the days when the city was locked down for the first time. So, I was there at the run down, the countdown to the last few hours that restaurants could be open, shops could be open before the whole of New York took a nosedive.

I was still there when Cuomo started these daily briefings. You remember his daily briefings on COVID? Those briefings, you know, they became more and more produced, Barry. You understand this from all your time on big networks and being produced.

Those became so produced it was almost like the papacy in the Vatican. It became like he was the savior of mankind, and they all lapped up. His brother, you know, was just fawning over him. And like you say, he ended up with the Emmy nomination, the book deal, and he became this sort of super figure. This hero of the moment, and it turns out all along it was all one big lie.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, let’s talk about the brothers, Cuomo. Good lead-in. So, his brother is like a big shot at CNN. They had this shtick where Brother Cuomo at CNN would interview Brother Cuomo, who’s the Governor of New York. They were chumming it up and, you know, no hard-hitting questions.

It was like, “You’re great.” “No, you’re great.” “No, you’re great.” Even CNN, an apologist network for everything progressive and wildly left-wing, has reportedly banned any interviews of brothers Cuomo because it’s embarrassing to the network. How low do you have to be on the totem pole of progressivism when even CNN won’t have your back?

Katie Hopkins: Absolutely right, and you know, when this all comes out. Once this all starts to be prosecuted and charged and whatever, I would love to see. Wouldn’t you love it if for the first-time media that are complicit in the forcing of this sort of horrific well, well, really manslaughter of our elderly, wouldn’t you love to see the complicit media also be in some way punished for their involvement in perpetuating it?

Barry Nussbaum: I wish there were such a thing.

Katie Hopkins: Yeah. Didn’t de Blasio come out? He called out Cuomo himself, hasn’t he? De Blasio has come out and suggested this sort of behavior intimidating stuff is typical of Cuomo.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, it’s not just de Blasio. You can’t get any farther left than him. I mean, he’s a card-carrying communist.

Katie Hopkins: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: The entire GOP and the state wants an investigation, and many Democrats within the state of New York, Katie, are now saying there must be a full-scale investigation into the massive numbers of deaths and the subsequent cover-up.

Get this, a leading New York Democrat assemblyman in the state assembly, a guy named Ron Kim, said that Governor Cuomo called him a couple of days ago and yelled at him for 10 minutes on the phone and threatened to destroy him if Kim went public with the fact that as far as the Democrats know, Cuomo has been covering this up.

The fact that he was threatened with destruction by the Governor has been confirmed by Assemblyman Kim’s own staff members. Wow. Everybody’s lining up to point the finger at, well, the Governor.

Katie Hopkins: You know, at a personal level, because there’s all the sort of storylines. There are the media. There is us talking. There is whatever. I wonder at a personal level. If we could get Cuomo on here right now and chat with him as if he were a friend that we were chatting with.

I wonder how he feels. You know, I wonder, is he defiant? Is he thinking he is still fine? Is he realizing he is really in trouble? Is he feeling alone? Will no one speak to him? I wonder where he’s at as a human being.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, this morning, to prepare for today, I actually watched his press conference. I think it was recorded yesterday.

Katie Hopkins: Okay.

Barry Nussbaum: He was defiant. He took no responsibility. He said he followed the science. They had subtitles on the screen with the main talking points. So, if you weren’t smart enough to listen to him and understand his words, you could read them in big, bold type on the screen.

All the things that he did were right. And get this, Katie. Nothing was done wrong. That’s exactly what he should have done. It’s exactly the way it should have been done with the timing that was recommended to him and poor Governor Cuomo, who was just following the science.

Katie Hopkins: You know that’s the thing, isn’t it? This defiance it feels horrific. It feels like there comes the point where, as a human, you’ve got to call out that you feel something. I also think from another sort of human perspective; we sort of throw away these figures, don’t we?

They said there were 8,500 deaths. Actually, they were 15,000, and you know, if we take that down to the level of your family, my mom, and dad. You know, let’s say something happened to my mom. Well, my family is what there’s me, my sister, like 10, 20 of us that are close.

So, for every one of those 15,000, there are, you know, the impact, the wave of people that are genuinely devastated by the loss of a parent. The numbers are actually massive, aren’t they? They are much bigger than 15,000. They’re all the families left behind wondering why my mother was killed off to save some cash or protect a donor?

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, you really make an interesting point. I know in history many dictators throughout the 20^th century made note of the fact that if you commit a murder and a couple of people disappear, it’s a horrific crime.

But if the numbers of deaths get into the thousands, it’s an incomprehensible statistic, and it just becomes background news. I think that’s what’s happened here. When you personalize it like some of the networks actually started doing yesterday and today.

Putting family members on who are saying, “I lost my dad. I couldn’t see my mom. We lost our brother because Mario, sorry, Andrew Cuomo put them in a home and wouldn’t let them out.” Well, then it gets personal, and people can relate to it. We’ll see what happens. He’s in a world of hurt, and it’s getting worse every day.

Katie Hopkins: You’re absolutely right. Mario Cuomo, I think you were saying he is his, was his father, right?

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah. Who was the former Governor, correct?

Katie Hopkins: And you knew of him?

Barry Nussbaum: Oh yes, and he was quite the moderate. Not like the son who believes he’s the dictator of the state of New York. He’s significantly not following in his father’s footsteps as a great leader. He’s more of a power-hungry guy that it’s his way or the highway. And in his own words, “I will destroy you.”

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