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BLM Wants to Tear Down America


Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to American Truth Project and ATP Report. Our special guest joining me, Barry Nussbaum, today is Clare Lopez. You know Clare from her many shows with ATP. She is formerly a US government person serving overseas, expertise with her CIA service and many other things she can't talk about. Welcome back, Clare.

Clare Lopez: Thanks, Barry, glad to be with you.

Barry Nussbaum: So, we talked on the break about your theory, which is really extraordinary. Over the past few months, we have seen seemingly unrelated groups aligning, at least in activities. All of which seem to have one thing in common they hate the United States of America.

You shared something with me that I haven't heard before, which is that these groups, contrary to what the press might say or the uninformed, might think are really aligned behind the scenes. Not only with their hatred of the American system, but in their goals for the future. So, let's start with that.

Clare Lopez: Right. So, with a tip of the hat to mentors of mine who have helped me understand this, Trevor Loudon, for one. Steve Coughlin and Richard Higgins for two others. What we're talking about, I think, is the United States manifestation attempted coup d'état, that is aligned not only internally.

We'll talk about these groups with each other, but with a broader globalist view of where the world should be going, which is to the destruction of the Westphalian nation-state system, to the institution of a globalized, centralized, authoritarian controlled world.

Now, here in the US, how that manifests itself is something I've taken to calling the red-black-green axis. Red stands for the forces of Marxism, Leninism, communism. The black stands for the Black Lives Matter movement. Which itself is Marxist and also heavily Maoist. The green is stetting for Islam.

The Islamic movement of the world here in the United States, led by the vanguard of the Muslim Brotherhood. You say, well, how could these groups so ideologically different possibly be aligned in anything like an axis? The reason is that, yes, even though they have very different ideologies for the moment, they are concentrated on the same objective.

By joining forces, they take aim together at tearing down America. Our foundational Judeo-Christian principles of the Constitution, the declaration, and other foundational documents.

Barry Nussbaum: So, let's start with Black Lives Matter. We talked about this before. Ninety-nine percent of the people out there Clare that you would ask, "Hey, tell me about Black Lives Matter. What are they about?"

The spiel you would get, from the NBA, from the NFL, from corporations that have donated hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to this movement, is they want to have America equal regardless of color. Are you saying that's not the goal of BLM?

Clare Lopez: That is certainly not the goal of BLM. For starters, the Black Lives Matter movement was explicitly founded by three openly Marxist American African American women. Alicia Garza, Opal Tometi, and Patrisse Cullors.

Each of them has a background in previous communist Marxist Maoist organizations like the Freedom Road Socialist Organization and Liberation Road. The manifesto, if you will, I think they call it a program, of the Black Lives Matter movement now can only be found with the Wayback Machine.

It dates back to 2016, and explicitly in a series of sections on that website, in that program, BLM describes itself as a Movement for Black Lives. It describes itself as Marxist, as communist, and is viciously anti-Semitic, too, dedicated to the objectives of the communist revolution in both Russia and China.

Barry Nussbaum: Ok, so stop right there. That group that you just described, if one hundred Americans heard that description. Ninety-nine, and I don't care about their background, political affiliation, left, right, conservative, progressive, liberal, whatever would say I don't want to destroy America.

I just want America to be more equal. How did they get so mainstream that they can raise hundreds of millions of dollars a week and believe that they belong in a Biden administration, should he become president? How did they sell it?

Clare Lopez: Because the communist enemy is very, very good at influence operations, at propaganda, at packaging its messaging to target particular segments of society, here we're talking about African Americans and those who, like I think probably all of us, want to see a freer, fairer, more inclusive America.

We all want that, but they know how to package that, to disguise what is in effect in the end, actually, Marxist, communist, Maoist ideas and objectives.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, if you're right and I and I think you are, I don't think there has been a better advertising campaign to divert the attention from the truth of what something is that's being sold in the mass media away from what it really is to what they want you to think it is.

I actually read not too long ago that out of the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions that the BLM movement has taken in their coffers virtually, and I mean what I'm about to tell you. Zero, nothing has been spent on improving black lives. What they do with the money?

Clare Lopez: The issue is never the issue. That's why they're not funding better schools in American cities, for example. That's not the issue. That is not the narrative. That's the meme that they use to capture the hearts and minds of well-meaning people and the well-meaning foundations because we can talk about all of these philanthropic foundations in America, Barry, that have given these hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.

The Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Tides Foundation, Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream, Door Dash, Airbnb, and on and on with, one hopes or expects, are good intentions to help people better their lives, better their children's education, better health care, all of that. But that's not what it's for, that's not what it's about, the issue is never the issue. Marxism, communism is the issue with Chinese characteristics, which is why I add the Maoist into there.

Barry Nussbaum: Ok, so the last question in this segment. There's a big push from BLM's leadership to the Biden administration, should he become president and take over the White House next month, to be included in planning policy and actual appointments. Yet so far, Clare, from what I understand, they are not being included at the table, and they are angry about it.

Clare Lopez: Yes, that is almost humorous. A meeting was held not very long ago by the Biden team to include various African American groups and interest groups and so forth. Well, I guess Black Lives Matter, despite previous requests to be included on invitations to meetings like this, were not included, and they have issued a very upset letter to the Biden team about that.

Essentially, they said, "You know, we helped you get in there," if he does, "where you're going to be, we expect to be at the table. You better be listening to us because we're the ones that put you there." The implied threat is if you don't listen, if you don't fulfill our agenda, you know where we are going, and that is back to the streets.

Barry Nussbaum: We will see if they carry out the threat. Clare, where can people find out about you?

Clare Lopez: Well, I do not yet have a website, so I am posting my articles and videos at different places. Of course, including American Truth Project and at the United West, at Sharia Crime Stoppers, at the Citizen's Commission on National Security. I frequently write for my blog at Newsmax and then also on social media where I'm at Clare M Lopez on Twitter, on Parlay, and the same name on Facebook.

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