Biden Appoints Pro Iran Diplomats for New JCPOA
Barry Nussbaum: Hello and welcome to ATP Report. I'm Barry Nussbaum. Our special guest today is Adelle Nazarian. She is the Senior Media Fellow at the Gold Institute.
She is known for her many media appearances. She's an expert on Iran, the nuclear deal, and our relationship between the Americas and Iran, and that's why she's joining us today. Welcome, Adel.
Adelle Nazarian: Thank you, Barry. It's a pleasure to be on with you, the first of hopefully many, many more appearances.
Barry Nussbaum: Absolutely. Let's talk about the Iran nuclear deal, commonly known as the JCPOA, crafted by American diplomats Wendy Sherman and John Kerry. It was supposed to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons.
That was a lie when they made the deal. It's a bigger lie today, and here we are going back into it. What would you say is the biggest failure of the JCPOA?
Adelle Nazarian: You know, thank you for the question. I think not including the fact that human rights violations were not included and the handling of the Parchin nuclear site, lots of failures. The Obama White House had said that, quote, “appropriate access would be given to the nuclear site at Parchin.”
However, there was no access given, and in fact, it was considered off-limits. So very, very hypocritical in that regard. We all know, anyone who has been a close observer or not so close observer knows that the Natanz nuclear facility, which was the place that was given access within a certain time frame, was not the main site for the development of nuclear capabilities.
It was the Parchin site. I will also remind you quickly that in 2016, Rouhani, who is actually not running for reelection, the elections are being held in July of this year for a new president in Iran. He bragged in 2016 that the JCPOA quote “was the cheapest way to achieve Iran's goals and interests.”
He noted that in seven years, Iran could begin research and development and production of advanced centrifuges that are twenty-five times faster than existing ones. So, as we know today, they're much closer to having a nuclear bomb, and Israel, of course, is certainly up in arms literally about it.
Barry Nussbaum: You know, I remember Obama in the Rose Garden speech where he promised any time inspections everywhere with no notice, and he promised that would happen, and it was the biggest lie of them all.
So now we have Wendy Sherman, who was the lead negotiator for President Clinton on his disastrous Korean deal that was going to prevent nuclear weapons development in the Korean Peninsula. Oops, total failure, and she was rewarded for that failure to be the lead negotiator for the Iran nuclear deal.
Oops, total failure again by Wendy. Now she's being rewarded by Biden, who just named her Undersecretary of State. How can a career of such failure be rewarded by three presidents Clinton, Obama, and Biden?
Adelle Nazarian: I love that you said, oops, I made a mistake. So essentially, that is the catchphrase of the term. I love it. So essentially, I think the problem here is that the likes of Obama, Clinton, and now Biden underestimate America's enemies.
It's like Alzheimer's. You get abused, or like the Stockholm Syndrome, you get abused, you get hit over the head. You seem to forget, and you go back to the same abuse, and you're like, let's try this again. The same cycle happens over and over again. I think the underestimation is what it was. Wendy Sherman, of course, bright woman, no doubt.
But just because you're bright or learned, it doesn't mean that you have necessarily the world view and understanding to be able to tackle such complex issues as the nuclear Iran deal. She said she learned a lesson from it.
Of course, the Iran deal lesson was not really learned there. It seems you are going into a second deal very soon. I have a very bad feeling about it, to be honest with you, and I think that this is going to be the deal that will finally solidify the Iranian regime's hold over the country and its people,
Barry Nussbaum: God forbid, and to make matters worse, the Biden administration has now appointed anti-Israel and Pro Islamic Republic Robert Malley as America's special envoy for Iran. Now, this is the guy that was involved in the JCPOA.
It was a foreign policy disaster. Before that, Malley was one of the lead negotiators in 2000 at Camp David, and he sided with Yasser Arafat over the United States and Israel. It turns out his father, an Egyptian communist was a close confidant of Arafat.
So how do we reward this guy? He's now our special envoy to Iran. It's astounding how we keep picking failures and rewarding them. So, is Malley really going to sacrifice American safety to please his friends in Iran?
Adelle Nazarian: I believe so, and I'll explain this. It's not just us that's concerned. Believe it or not. This is something that was very predictable. It's something called the Islamo-leftism Alliance. Right.
You have Islamists and leftists. Once again, I want to clarify here. I work with tons of people from different denominations, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Christians, whatever it is. Islamist organizations like the Council on American Relations, these groups that are radical Islamists, do not represent the wider diaspora of Muslim people.
Let's make that clear. Right. Just like the Islamic Republic of Iran regime does not represent the vast majority of the Iranian people, but there is an alliance between these Islamists and these leftists, and Rob Malley, frankly, is exemplary of this.
It is similar to what's happening in America with Black Lives Matter and organizations like CAIR that team up together. So, yes, it is a very distorted view. It is anti-West, and it is anti-American at its core, whether or not they choose to accept it and see it.
But it's the Marxist core that is the problem and an ideology. So, Bob Malley, I believe, is definitely going to appease the Iranian regime and going to help embolden them at the cost of, frankly, more American lives and more American security.
Barry Nussbaum: So, we have this series of failures. I mean, not even a little bit, but just gross failures in American diplomacy that we detail. So why is America returning to the appeasement of Iran? It failed completely the first time around.
Everybody knows the JCPOA was a joke on the first day. Iran's been cheating ever since. They're getting very close to nuclear weapons. What is America thinking by saying, hey, let's do it again. We screwed it up the first time. Let's try again.
Adelle Nazarian: To answer your previous question quickly. I think that it has to do with the victim mentality to say, you know. It's a cycle. It's a victim mentality that allows them to keep accepting failures over and over again and thinking it's okay.
It's the same psychology behind changing the letter F for failure to a U or O, to not hurt the feelings of the students that have received that poor marking—moving on to this question, though. I definitely do happen to think that America is reentering this deal again, appeasing Iran.
There's a huge reason for America's expediency. The Biden administrations really rushed to get back into this, and it eludes back to the fact that June 18th, 2021 is when the next election for president will be held.
Rouhani is termed out, cannot run again. They're most likely worried that a more radical president will be elected by Iran's Supreme Council. Because of that, I think they're in a rush to get this deal going before that occurs. It's at the top of their list. What happens now is because of it, America is negotiating not from a position of strength, but from weakness.
Because we as America collectively now, because let's say the administration represents America now, let's be honest, is wanting this more than Iran. So, I think more concessions will be made. I think it's going to be a real big problem.
I just pray that countries like Syria are included in terms of forcing Iran to at least leave the country, and countries, where Iran has a strong presence part of the deal, will be that they have to withdraw, and countless lives can be saved.
Barry Nussbaum: Adelle, where can people find you?
Adelle Nazarian: Thank you for asking. I am on Twitter and Facebook, and Instagram. My handle on all three, I believe, is @ A-D-E-L-L-E-N-A-Z, N as IN Nancy. So Adellenaz.
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