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Are we about to become the divided States of Socialist America?


Will Johnson: Hello, everybody. Will Johnson UniteAmericaFirst.com. Riding with me is Channon, my producer, and we should have Barry and Anni on with this today, which is an amazing day. I hope your there. You there, Barry and Anni?

Anni Cyrus: I am right here, and Barry should join us momentarily.

Will Johnson: Well, awesome, I'm glad that you're here. So, you know, the country is in turmoil, and it's only going to increase. What we're seeing taking place, and a lot of people are saying, there's been a lot of fraudulent stuff happening with all the votes. One thing I would like to say, you know what? Before we get into the meat of all of this because I'm just ready to go in.

Channon: Yes, he is. He just starts going.

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Channon: Yes, and let me chime in. If anybody wants to call in and talk to the panel, please give us a call. You can call us at 516-595-8069.

Will Johnson: Absolutely. So, Anni, I know you've been moving around through the country. What part of the country are you currently in?

Anni Cyrus: I am more in the Midwest area.

Will Johnson: You are in the Midwest?

Anni Cyrus: By the way, Will, we have Barry with us here.

Will Johnson: Awesome, awesome. Glad you're here, Barry.

Barry Nussbaum: Hey, Will, it's a pleasure to join you this afternoon.

Will Johnson: It's awesome. So, I want to read some specifics, if I can, and then we'll get into some of the meat of this because I know you have some stuff that you would like to go over. I think it is very important that we go over that information.

But I want to bring something up that was just sent to me. This is the voter register in the various states, like Pennsylvania, Minnesota, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Georgia. Okay, I'm not going to read all of these, but registered voters are 1,200,000 plus.

Channon: In Nevada, he is talking about Nevada.

Will Johnson: This is Nevada, 1,277,000 people have registered to vote. Votes that they have in Nevada are 1,593,000 people. That's a surplus of 200,000 extra votes, which is 125% over, that turned out.

Channon: Yeah. We see this trend in many states. We see it in Pennsylvania, Minnesota, North Carolina. You notice I am mentioning all swing states.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Channon: Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, and Georgia.

Will Johnson: All of these states that are having issues today have more votes than registered voters. What's going on? What do you think is going on, Barry?

Barry Nussbaum: Well, I'm looking at the same stats you and Channon just went over, and it's flabbergasting that nobody is freaking out. That there are more people voting than there are voters.

To me, I mean, that should be fraud in 50ft neon letters with spotlights on it, and a marching band with people screaming, pay attention, America. There can't be this many voters. That just makes no sense. Now, just to differentiate, I want to make something clear.

That doesn't mean that is all the voters in the state. Those are the people that register to vote and are signed up to be in the election. There are more people showing up with ballots or just more ballots showing up than there are people signed up to vote. Now, some people might say, well, that's because of same-day registration.

Nah, not in these kinds of numbers. These are unprecedented numbers and what's really upsetting is, these are all Democrat states, and they're all swing states. These are all surprise numbers that came in at the last minute. Even the night of the election, they were showing up.

Channon: Can you do same-day registration in those States? Because, you know, a lot of states have deadlines that are before the election if you want to vote in that state, you have to register by a certain deadline. So, in these states, are they allowed to have same-day registration?

Barry Nussbaum: It's different by state. It varies on how they have the rules. You can have same-day registration, for example, in Nevada. I just confirmed it. I'm checking Pennsylvania now, but what's curious is some people are signing up that day, and there may be several ballots issued to that person already.

In other words, I was getting calls before the election from people that follow the American Truth Project saying, “What should I do?” There's one gal that wrote me a note, she said, “She's lived in Virginia for eight years. Her mother called her, and they received two ballots at her old apartment in New York.

She hadn't even been in the state in eight years except to visit her mom.” So, there are three ballots floating around for this same lady, and she didn't even know who to call to complain. God knows how many are out there, you know.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum:  It's absolutely nuts.

Will Johnson: You're right, and you know what? The longer this goes on, the more people are getting upset, and you're right. Why aren't people up in arms right now, screaming about all of this? I think people are starting to see what's happening, and all of this is starting to get exposed.

It's just going to wake up a can of worms that the Democrats were never even considering, and I think this is going to be something that's going to change this country. You know, before the election, before November 3rd, I kept saying, November 4th, we're all going to wake up, and America is going to be different.

Channon: Ah-huh

Will Johnson: Sure enough, it is different. They are trying to turn this country into a socialist country. Socialism and capitalism don't get along.

Barry Nussbaum: Of course not. One of them is based on what you do, what you create, and how hard you work, right? The other one is how much can I have for showing up? That means how much can I have of the guy across the street's money, property, health care, education, transportation, and so on? There are people that would rather stand on the corner with their hand out than go to work every day.

Will Johnson: Exactly.

Barry Nussbaum: They would rather actually bust in windows and, you know, push a shopping cart out of the Target filled with big-screen TVs and Nike basketball shoes after their buddy next door broke the window with a baseball bat when they go to work and earn money to go to Target with their credit card and buy those same TVs and Nike basketball shoes.

Channon: Yeah, I have to say that Barry, we’ve experienced the same kind of messages and emails as you did. People were saying that they're getting multiple ballots from states they used to live in, some residences were getting multiple ballots, and here's an email that we got this morning.

A lady said, “Her parents live in Georgia, and the RNC called her parents this morning to ask them why their vote was thrown out.” This was an elderly couple who went to vote in person, and they threw out their ballot, their count, and they don't know why.

So, the RNC is letting them resubmit their vote. So, we know that people are on the ground, and they're trying to fight for America. But this is crazy. Everybody needs to get out there, and even if they voted in person, we need to make sure their vote was counted.

Will Johnson: No matter who you voted for.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, absolutely. You raise an interesting issue. Anni and I had a chat this morning about voting around the world, and she made a comment that in some countries like her native Iran. If you don't go to vote, it's a crime.

If you go to vote, but you don't vote the ticket that they tell you to vote for it's a violation of the government edict, and you could lose a tremendous amount of government support. For example, if you're going to university and you're on a partial scholarship, you'll lose your scholarship, or you'll lose your insurance or whatever.

That's how they get a 100% or 99.9% turn out, and the guy that is the official recommended candidate in each precinct for every office. From the little guy on the corner that maybe is in charge of the court system all the way up to the grand poohbah that runs the country, and everybody knows it's corrupt. Everybody expects it.

The elections are a sham, the same in Russia. What's upsetting is America, where we all assumed that elections are honest, transparent, and ethically run we're all getting the shock of our adult lifetimes. There are stories of fraud coming out in every major contested state.

Channon: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: The likes of which this country, and I mean this, has never, ever seen.

Channon: It's crazy.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: I mean, you go on YouTube, and you see videos in Georgia, you see videos in Michigan, you see videos in Nevada. I mean ...

Will Johnson: Arizona.

Channon: It's crazy out there, and these are people that are witnessing it firsthand. This isn't second-hand information.

Anni Cyrus: Channon if I could ...

Channon: These are people that are witnessing this firsthand.

Will Johnson: Ah-huh, what did you say, Anni?

Anni Cyrus: If I could interrupt for a second with a live update. With everything going on in Georgia, funny enough, they just sent in an updated number. Biden closed the gap with another 3,200 votes. So, the gap is now below 10,000.

Channon: Where is this at?

Anni Cyrus: Georgia.

Will Johnson: Georgia.

Anni Cyrus: Yeah.

Channon: It's interesting.

Anni Cyrus: In the last one hour, Georgia just got 3,000 more votes for Biden.

Channon: Yeah. It's interesting this morning, the person in charge of the elections. He did a press conference this morning, and he said that they were going to have numbers this afternoon and had less than 25,000 votes to count. They just came out not too long ago and said, oh, wait a minute, we have over 60,000 votes to count.

Will Johnson: More voter fraud.

Channon:  Yeah, I mean, it's changing by the minute in these places.

Will Johnson: Well, you know, it's just like the night of the election. They shut down these voter stations, and then all of a sudden, a whole flood of votes came in for Biden. So, during the time of the shutdown, what were they doing?

They were tallying up the numbers to see how many more votes they needed to beat Trump. Then a lot of them, they wouldn't even allow Republicans to go in there and observe the count. So, they kick out all the Republicans and allow the Democrats only to count.

On top of that, there's another video floating around where this black male is sitting behind a desk separating the votes. Apparently, it looks like they are Trump voters, and then he picks up one of them, wrinkles it up, and throws it in the trash. So, how many did he do that too? People walking around him all see he's doing it. So, I'm assuming that they're doing it, too, and no one is saying anything.

Channon: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: That's why you're supposed to have ...

Channon: Observers.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, exactly. That is what I was going to mention.

Will Johnson: Yeah, on a personal note, I think this whole thing is not valid. If you ask me if I had the authority, I will say, you know what? All of those votes, every single vote is done. If you want to vote for the President of the United States, you need to go show up personally.

Channon: Yes. All right. Listen, we have a caller on the phone. This is Tom from California. What's up, Tom?

Tom: Hey, guys, how are you doing?

Will Johnson: Good, thanks for calling.

Tom: Yeah, obviously, it is tough for us right now. I think as a supporter of Trump from 2015 on; I think this is pretty tough. I think, kind of, the difference for me right now is that I'm more of a centrist. Right.

I think right now, when you look at politics, you have to be all the way one way or all the way the other. That's just not really how I feel, which allows me to objectively sit back and look at things.

Also, I'm a lawyer who's tried a lot of cases, and so I think it probably gives me an extra insight into what's happening here. I think for me, what's a little bit disheartening and frustrating about this is that I'm all for my candidate winning ...

Channon: Right, to fairly ...

Tom: Start to discredit here. I don't love to start to discredit the American voting system. So, I might say some things. I'm a big supporter of Trump. I might say some things because it's good to have a conversation and play like devil's advocate occasionally.

But basically, the Giuliani speech yesterday that he gave, I found to be disturbing from a legal standpoint. Let me just say, anybody can bring a lawsuit, right? I could bring a thousand lawsuits today against a bunch of people if I felt like it, and it would get to the courts.

Now, I'd be disbarred by the legal system for bringing a bunch of baseless claims. But the key that we see here, and we're already seeing, is that Republican Judges are throwing these out because there's no backup. Giuliani's big ...

Channon: You are breaking up Tom, I'm sorry.

Will Johnson: Yes, it sounds like we just lost Tom.

Tom: These cases before are literally to be within 10 to 20 feet. It is illegal to have a large group of people crowding around someone counting. You can sufficiently see what's happening from 10 to 20 feet. In addition to that, what's getting a lot of these cases thrown out that's not being said by the party right now, which is a little bit of a shame to me, is that there's live feed that is literally videotaping all of these people counting.

They can hold those videotapes as much as they want. The final thing is just the news media is not doing a great job of really communicating why votes are being counted like this. Right. I will say this, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, which are run by our party. Our party was the one that made the decision.

They said we would not count votes as they come in. The plan likely being that they wanted to show Trump ahead by a large amount of actual votes. Then when the mail-in votes started to get counted, clearly, we're going to lean more heavily towards the Democrats. It's shown across the country, even in states that we won, that about 70% of that vote was going to come in towards a Democratic Party.

In Georgia right now, what you're seeing is there are 50,000 votes left to count, and Trump was up by about 15,000. Now he's up by about 10,000. You should not be surprised and should not think anything illegal is going on because the unfortunate reality is that the mail-in votes left to count are from Atlanta, and Atlanta is almost 70,000, 75% Democrat. That is how they vote in every single election, right, and so you're about to see ...

Anni Cyrus: Tom, may I interrupt you for one second?

Tom: Yes, sure.

Anni Cyrus: I think, at least from my point of view, and I'm pretty sure everyone on this radio right now would agree that our suspicion doesn't come from how many votes are coming in or not coming in. The suspicion is, why are they not allowing observers in the room? Why are they avoiding transparency? That's the problem right now. We're not questioning the votes yet.

Tom: But I'll say this, in every single state, there are Republican and Democratic observers. That's flat-out, not true. Right now, there's one state where those observers in a couple of polling areas, you're right, did not allow a Republican Party in its Pennsylvania.

Channon: Yeah, Pennsylvania.

Tom: But every other state has had this right. So, the reality is, is Trump, Look, I'm a realist, right?

Channon: I don't know if Pennsylvania is the only one that wasn't allowed. We don't know that. Your assuming ...

Anni Cyrus:  Michigan wasn't allowed either.

Will Johnson: Pennsylvania is the only one being reported.

Channon: Yeah, because of Michigan ...

Tom:  No.

Channon: They asked the Republicans to leave the room.

Will Johnson: Yes, there's an actual video of them in the room. So, then all of the Republican observers were told to get out.

Tom: No.

Will Johnson: It appears to be that the police officers that were in the room were made to move out. Once they put them outside on the other side of the glass window, then they started covering up the glass window so they could not observe what was taking place in the room. Regardless of if they were 40 feet or 60 feet away.

Tom: But you have to understand.

Will Johnson: Hold on, hold on. Hold on, so the problem is, if you have anyone in there telling just Republican observers to leave the room and not telling Democrat observers to leave the room, that is a clear indication that something is going on that they don't want people to see ...

Channon: Yeah, it's questionable. They should not have never done that.

Will Johnson: And the police officers should have done their job and said, “No, what's going to take place is that we're going to leave both parties in here to observe.” If people are getting irate and not understanding, you remove that person, but you don't remove an entire party. So, hey, caller, I want to thank you for the call. Okay.

Tom: No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Please, please, please. One more thing.

Channon: Okay, wrap it up. We have other callers on the line.

Will Johnson: Hey, thank you for the call.

Tom: I want to say one more thing. Do you guys believe that in 2016 when the Democrats owned the President, was not to institute all of this voter fraud that you're saying now, and in 2020, when the Republicans run the Senate and run the presidency and own the Supreme Court and have a bunch of court judges on every single level of every single court, that the Democrats were able to cheat in such outlandish ways that millions of votes would go the other way and then in certain states, they just didn't? We have got to step back and ...

Will Johnson: Well, when you have polls that shut down at 2:30 in the morning and then all of a sudden, an hour later, 100,000 votes show up. People need to question that.

Tom: No, that's the counting, now after the counting ...

Will Johnson: There's something going on, and there is something fraudulent ...

Tom: We are embarrassing ourselves.

Will Johnson: Because if that took place in 2016, people would be crying ...

Tom: We are embarrassing our party, guys.

Will Johnson: Hey, caller, I really appreciate you calling. Thank you so much for the call.

Tom: We're embarrassing our party, guys.

Will Johnson: All right, hey, thanks for the call.

Barry Nussbaum: Will, let me say something. You touched on an event that we cannot minimize. In a number of states, there are half a dozen instances of what you just touched on, and I want to emphasize what you said. Poll watchers were sent home.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: Because they were done for the night and during the night, outrageous numbers of ballots, I don't mean five or 10, I'm talking 100,000 to 200,000 ballots got delivered from God knows where.

Will Johnson: Exactly.

Barry Nussbaum: In the middle of the night and they were thrown into the counting bins. We don't know where they came from, and there were no observers there because officially they were, quote, "done for the night."

That's No. 1 that is outrageous. No. 2 There are half a dozen instances of only Republican poll watchers ordered out. Then the windows were covered up, or they were sent to the other side of the room. Yeah, there are cameras from the other side of the room, but you can't see what the ballots are. You can't see who is being selected as President of the United States ...

Will Johnson: Thank you.

Barry Nussbaum: And you can't see what is being done with the ballot.

Will Johnson: Thank you.

Barry Nussbaum: So, yeah, you might be in the room, but I got news for you. Unless you've got binoculars, you can't see across the convention center floor to see the guy that is 90 feet away.

Will Johnson: Thank you.

Barry Nussbaum: You might as well be in Cleveland observing for Philadelphia

Will Johnson: Yeah.


Channon: We do have a caller on the phone, but let me jump in on something, too, Tom said that our party should be ashamed because we knew of voter fraud happening, and we didn't do anything. Absolutely 100% agree.

There's a lot of things that the Republican Party is aware of that we don't take care of, and we haven't taken care of, for example, censorship by social media. We have hearings, and we don't do anything. We know that voter fraud is happening, and we didn't do anything before now.

Four years after 2016, we have an election, and we shouldn't be in this position. I do blame some of the Republicans for not dealing with this before today.

Will Johnson: It even took place in 2018. We saw a lot of it, and they didn't do it.

Channon:  Right.

Will Johnson: It was even questionable in Arizona of all places.

Channon: And you know what? The Democrats know about it, too. I mean, there are videos now that they are talking about, you know, he knew that voter fraud was happening, and it was a huge problem. So, they're aware of it as well.

Honestly, we can say that all of our representatives have failed us in making sure that we have fair, non-fraudulent elections. The reason why they haven't done it, though, is because they want the opportunity to do it, in my opinion.

Will Johnson: I don't know? So, we have another caller?

Channon: Yep, we have another caller. This is Ryan from Michigan. Hi, Ryan, how are you? Quick question, please.

Ryan: Hi, I'm good. I just have a comment. I'm from northern Michigan, and if you look at our electoral map here in Michigan, 11 districts overwhelmingly voted for Trump. But our vote is basically a zero, unheard of, all because of Wayne County and Detroit.

So, I think the only way to solve this and not have this commotion every few years is to have the Electoral College go one district, one vote and break up this winner, take all stuff that we do every four years for the President. I mean, California is that disenfranchised.

Will Johnson: That would be something you have to do. To my understanding, that would be something you have to do at the local state level.

Ryan: I agree, but I think it needs to be nationalized.

Will Johnson: Oh, yeah, you're right. No, I do not disagree with you. I think you're there. I plan on being in Michigan to cover a lot of this weekend, or I'm leaving out tomorrow. I think the people there in Michigan, that's something that maybe you can lead up the charge on, but something needs to change. I agree with you.

Channon: I don't know. I thought that you know, the Electoral College, well, I guess it is set up, I don't know Barry. Do you know very much about the Electoral College as far as who because I know that they've traveled the country trying to get each state to agree to popular vote instead of electoral votes, the Democrats have, but isn't that something we need to change constitutionally?

Barry Nussbaum: Yes and no, sorry, I happen to know a lot about this. On a national basis, the Electoral College was established by the founders in the 18th century. It's the popular vote in each, within the boundaries of each state. The winner of the popular vote, except in a couple of exceptions, is a winner takes all that selects their electors.

The exceptions are Nebraska and Maine. I believe that they do it proportionally. Now, having said that, once the Electoral College is identified, the electors, in other words, ahead of time, each party will nominate the people that will go to vote in the Electoral College if California goes blue or goes red.

There are already the electors selected by each party, and then whoever wins that state goes. The reason the Electoral College is so important to preserve, and I can't stress this enough, the founders were concerned about the cities where everybody lived. The big populations overwhelming the contribution to the election finals of the farmers that were doing all the labor to produce the food for the rest of the people.

Now, over the last couple of centuries, the cities have grown disproportionately. So, if you had a popular vote, New York and California would overwhelm the rest of the country, and even though the whole map is 95% red or 97% red, all those voters would be disenfranchised. Why?

Because New York, wildly liberal and socialist, combined with California wildly liberal and socialist, overwhelms the next 25 states or something like that, based on population. So, on a state level ...

Channon: So, what do you think we can do in the case of what Ryan is saying, like in Michigan, it's also happening in California where most of the state, you know, a large part of the state is farming, and they're voting for Trump. But in the most populated cities like L.A., San Francisco, their votes are counting towards the Electoral College instead of those farmers. The same thing is happening in Michigan like he's talking about; what do you think might be a solution for that?

Barry Nussbaum: That's a state's rights issue, and each state can make decisions. It doesn't have to be a winner take all Channon. Like I mentioned, there's a couple of states that do it proportionally. So, if he's worked up in Michigan, get a whole bunch of people, and Will Johnson goes to Michigan and Wisconsin to help. Maybe you start a movement that changes it.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: Yes.

Anni Cyrus: Well, isn't that exactly what happened this year was Maine and Nebraska. Nebraska had three districts. Two work for Trump, one was for Biden, and they split it. Maine had two districts. One went to Trump, and one for Biden. Just follow whatever they did in Nebraska and Maine.

Channon: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, that’s what I just said a minute ago. They did it professional. So, you can do it, and you can come up with your own goofball system. Like Maine did and Nebraska did. So, yes, the states can change it, but once the electors are selected by the state, they go, and the popular vote is irrelevant. That's a smart thing. Those founders were so brilliant.

They were so divinely inspired. They saw the future. Anybody that says the Electoral College needs to be replaced, in my opinion, is somebody that wants the socialistic, progressive, wildly liberal two states on both coasts to decide every presidential election. Those are the people in favor of dismissing the Electoral College.

Will Johnson: Yep, you're 100% correct.

Channon: You know what's interesting in this election that a lot of people are upset about as well is, you have Alaska, right? They still haven't even called for Trump. Right? There are states, you know, Biden is not going to catch parts in that state.

Will Johnson: It's not going to change.

Channon: Just like in California. As soon as California votes are over, they gave it to Biden. They didn't even have to count.

Will Johnson: It wasn't even that they were over in California. When I saw that they called it for Biden they had, zero votes in, zero reported, and they had already given it to Biden.

Channon: But you don't see any of that.

Will Johnson: Without any counting or anything.

Channon: Right.

Will Johnson: So, Barry, one of the things that we have here that I would like to get your opinion on because we kind of touched on it a little bit. President Trump's campaign won a major legal victory in Pennsylvania. Can you talk more about that?

Barry Nussbaum: Well, actually, they won two decisions already. One is to demand access for observers. Because like you touched on, I mean, there are no observers, or they're on the other side of a convention center, they might as well be in Sweden. So, a judge decided in one case already let the observers back in.

Will Johnson: Right.

Barry Nussbaum: Now, you know what is curious. I watched the press conference right before we came on the air, and Pam Bondi, who used to be the A.G. in Florida, is there with the Trump team. She said when the Judge announced the decision. There's a private attorney, a Democrat, hired by the Democrat election official in Philadelphia. Who said, “I will decide how I will enforce or not enforce the Judge's order.”

Meanwhile, we're counting like crazy in Philadelphia. So, yeah, that was a very, very important decision. But here's the question for all of you and all of the listeners out there. I don't know the answer to this, Anni and I talked about it earlier, and I can't figure it out. In the law when, like the earlier gentleman that called, when you sue somebody in civil court, and you win.

You're asking for something for generally the court or the jury or both to award you to remedy your point. So, for example, if you're robbed at your business, and you sue the person, you'll get a judgment in court, and they'll say, Mr. Johnson was robbed at his business of $10,000 and he sued the perpetrator.

Here's an award for $10,000. Mr. Johnson, you're going to get your money back and your legal fees covered. Right. Then, of course, you have to go collect, but you can get a court order to grab his house, his car's, bank account, or whatever. What the heck are the courts going to do where 99% of the country's been counted. How are we going to fix the fraud after the fraud?

Will Johnson: Hum.

Barry Nussbaum: I don't know what the remedy can be. I will say, I have one idea, and then you guys talk. I almost feel like you talked about it, Will. All these ballots were showing up in the middle of the night with trucks that nobody knows where they came from, and if they dump them into the general populace, so to speak, in other words, if they've got these huge bins. You don't know where the ballots came from, so even on a recount, if you're counting ballots that were fraudulently obtained. Like ...

Will Johnson: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: You know, ballot harvesting, where you go around to old age homes, and you put ballots or duplicate ballots for people that are now in other states, or there are all these rumors that Nevada has a voting registration at the polling place without identification necessary, and they were driving in people from California. Right. The question is, if you have a recount, you're just recounting bad ballots. How does that fix anything?

Channon: You know, what, Barry? Interestingly, you said that, and I've thought about this, but what happened in Israel when they had an election like that?

Will Johnson: They redid the election

Channon: They redid the election.

Will Johnson: Well, that's what I brought up earlier. Do you know what? It's not about money.

Channon: Right. That's the answer.

Will Johnson: It's not about money. If they came along and said, well, you know what? It would cost too much money. No, no, and no. Take the money from all of the pork spending that they're spending it on. Take it from Planned Parenthood. Take it from everything else that is meaningless and get the country back in order.

You know what? That was one of the prized things about the United States of America that our elections were always honest. Now, the people see it, across the world saying, look at the Americans. The Americans don't have it together.

Channon: Yeah. You know, this will never be resolved. I believe that. Even a recount probably won't resolve.

Will Johnson: No.

Channon: The only thing that will resolve it is if we say, okay, you know what, we're going to make this fair. We're going to have both liberal, Democrat, and Republicans in these polling places to do the counting. We're going to do this all over again. Let's wipe the slate clean and start over.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Channon: That's the only way we're going to end up resolving this, I feel.

Will Johnson: Yes, and it's in-person voting only.

Channon: Well, then you have to make sure that nobody says that there was voter suppression because they can't get set up at the polling station.

Will Johnson: Seriously, and you know what? You can do this. You can have it to where people can request ballots too. Okay, let's not take that. Let's not remove that because some people aren't able to make it to the voter station. Let them request it. Put it out for another month. Put it out until January 1st.

But make it to where we have people, if you can if you're able and don't have a valid excuse if you don't have a handicapped sticker in your vehicle or your pocket, you have to show up and vote or don't vote at all.

Channon: I know. What do you think, Anni and Barry? What do you think about that?

Barry Nussbaum: Anni, I'll let you go first. I've got my very firm opinion, but I want to hear yours first.

Anni Cyrus: Sure, I'm going to go back to what I discussed with Barry earlier this afternoon. I come from a country where technically, we all vote. But first of all, when you go vote, literally, they will take a thumbprint and put it on your ballot, and they will take your thumbprint and put it on your birth certificate for that year of the election.

They will trace all of that into whom you voted for, did you vote or not. Then comes consequences. Now, all of that sounds very close to what we're looking at right now. But if we eliminate the dictatorship from who you voted for, or you voted, or not, the system they use in Iran is a very proper system because there is absolutely zero possible chance of cheating.

You go in with your birth certificate, and you vote. Your name needs to match your birth certificate. Your thumbprint needs to match the system of the fingerprint of the government. I agree. I'm going to go with Sean Hannity last night, “Are you telling me that we are the home of Microsoft and Apple and we can't find a proper computerized system that's going to eliminate all fraud?” We can, but the question is, are we going to?

Channon: OK, Barry. What's your firm opinion.

Barry Nussbaum:  Well, here's my take. I don't think there's a remedy that can put the idea of one person, one vote in place without a revote. There are millions, millions, and millions of extra ballots floating around that nobody knows where they went, nobody knows who voted them, and nobody knows where they came from when they did come in. So, here's what I would do.

I would, and I need to think about this, but there are about a dozen close states. We can name them. We all know what they are. You know, Nevada, Arizona, it's Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia. All those states could be revoted in the next three or four weeks, as Will suggests.

Channon: Amen.

Will Johnson: Ah-huh.

Barry Nussbaum: And I'm one of those people who say, you know what? If you get on a plane, you need an I.D. To buy a gun, you need an ID. To pick up your Social Security check, you need an I.D.

Will Johnson: You want to go to the liquor store, you need an I.D.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, yeah. You want to buy it; I was going to say the same thing. If you want a six-pack and you don't look over 50, they will card you.

Will Johnson: Yes, sir.

Barry Nussbaum: Okay, so the most important right you have as a free man or woman in this country is the right to vote. What the hell are we thinking that the most important right under the Constitution afforded men and women of this country you don't have to prove who you are.

You don't have to prove where you live. You don't have to prove you have the right to be in that precinct, in that state, at that election. You just show up and say, hey, I'm Joe Blow. Give me a ballot. Do you have any I.D.? No. Okay, here. That's insane. That's completely insane.

Anni Cyrus: Yeah, but Barry, right there is what I was trying to say. Even the ID. shouldn't be enough. I personally know of Iranians in Los Angeles, California, who voted who are not citizens. You get an I.D. in America without being a citizen. We should request a passport if you don't have an American birth certificate.

Channon: Absolutely.

Will Johnson:  Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: I'm fine with that.

Anni Cyrus: They consider I.D. as identification.

Barry Nussbaum: That's fair enough. That is a very good point.

Will Johnson: Yeah, in Nevada, they did a news conference talking about all the dead people that voted.

Channon: Yeah.

Will Johnson: I mean, seriously, they were doing a news conference on all of these dead people that have voted, and we're supposed to believe that nothing fraudulent is going on.

Anni Cyrus: And nonresidents, I told Barry I had people from L.A. telling me that they send people from California because they already know they got California. They sent Californians to vote in Nevada. Those are the nonresident numbers of people you are talking about in Nevada.

Channon: That's crazy. Hey, everybody, once again, if you're listening and you want to call in, give us a call at 516-595-8069.

Will Johnson: And don't forget to text me. Go ahead and text me at 88202, and put my name in there, Will. Go to your mobile device and text Will to 88202.

Barry Nussbaum: You know guys, we're talking about something so important. I feel like, from my perspective. I've been in politics, and I didn't want to say how long, but it's four decades—all the way back to the 70s when I wrote speeches in the legislature in Sacramento

. I don't remember, and you guys tell me what you think where elections that were controversial, we're linked to fraud. I don't ever remember that happening, with the one exception that they talked about after the 1960 presidential election.

Where the Chicago machine, as they called it, a mayor, John Daley, was signing up voters from the cemeteries, and it's not a joke. They had a certain number within Cook County, which is where Chicago is located. Flipped Illinois to go Democrat, and that's how John Kennedy was elected, and he defeated Richard Nixon in a very close election.

But with that one exception, I don't remember this much fraud where we're getting to the point where Democrats and Republicans are almost universally asking the question, what the heck is going on.

Will Johnson: Hum.

Barry Nussbaum: Do you guys?

Channon: I think we do know what's going on.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: I'm not asking it that way. My question, Channon, is more like you ever remember this much outcry?

Will Johnson: No.

Channon: No, I feel like we had faith in the system before.

Will Johnson:  Yeah.

Channon: And I feel like they've ruined that faith in the system.

Will Johnson: I mean, as I mentioned earlier, across the world, our electoral system was marbled.

Channon: Right.

Will Johnson: It was marbled because we didn't; we've never had this to this extent. Now, we all suspected it in the past. But to have it to this extent, for example, one of your bullet points you had out there was in Georgia. All of the voting machines expanding the county, which voted 6% for Trump in 2016, went down, right? The ballot showed up in the middle of the night after the poll watchers were sent home. So, my question is, who received these ballots if everyone was sent home?

Will Johnson: Well, and miraculously, let's add to your question, Will, and how did they get posted into the total by the time the poll watchers came back in the morning? Look, election night. I went to bed, and Trump was up in every major swing state, Wisconsin…

Will Johnson: Yep.

Barry Nussbaum: Michigan…

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Arizona, to the point that he was at like, 320 something electoral votes. I remember thinking when I went to bed, late, well, I'm going to wake up, and it's over. During the night, Michigan, Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia changed dramatically. Who posted those ballots at, what, 4:00 a.m., everywhere?

Will Johnson: But no one was there. No one was there. They just automatically showed up.

Channon: Yeah.

Will Johnson: You know what, Barry?

Anni Cyrus: That reminds me of, I'm sorry, I know I normally project this thing into every conversation, but that completely reminds me of one of the stories that I always heard when I was growing up as a Muslim, which was all of the miracles of Mohammed, the prophet happened at night when nobody was looking.

Channon: Yeah. Hey, listen, we have a question from Steven from California. He asked if the media simply calls it for Biden, won't the establishment just go along with that call? Does the media just control everything now?

Will Johnson: You know what? This is something I was getting ready to say. They expect all of us just to accept all of the corruption taking place and just go about our lives. Oh well, this is the way it is because, for the most part, when stuff similar to this happened in the past Republicans will just say, okay, we're going to roll over, just let it go for the betterment of the country and just let it slide. At this point, we can't do that. There's no way we can do that.

Channon: Well, I find it interesting that even if we depended on the media, how reluctant they were to call these states for Trump, even Fox News.

Will Johnson: Well, yeah, and on top of that, the big tech companies controlled the media this time because the big tech companies said they're not going to allow anybody to call it. When the big tech companies said that, that's when you noticed Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS, all of them refused the call of the states ahead for Trump. But they called all of them Biden. What's going on here? It's just, what I think, go ahead.

Barry Nussbaum: There's something important to note. When there is a call, it's not by the states; it's by the media, okay, and it doesn't; it really doesn't mean anything as long as they're not calling the states while other states are still voting. Because that's a voter suppression technique, in other words, if New York announced and they're three hours ahead of California, Nevada, Arizona, Washington, Oregon, and so on, that it's a landslide for the Democratic ticket. Well, that causes a lot of Republicans to stay home or vice versa. That's why you're not supposed to call it until all the polls are closed because you're going to suppress votes.

Channon: It's interesting you said that. Do you know what the first state that was called?B

Barry Nussbaum: Hum.

Channon: Do your first state called? Early in the evening, Indiana is a red state. It was the first one. I mean, as soon as I started looking at it, I was like, wait a minute, they called Indiana.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, it was a landslide, actually, for Trump.

Channon: Well, still you said you shouldn't do it before all the polls are closed, though, and that was early.

Barry Nussbaum: Keep in mind, they're called by the nerds in the back room of every media outlet, like, for example, and it created some controversy. The Fox News desk election night coverage, the guy in the backroom is a registered Democrat who contributed a fairly significant number of thousands of dollars to the Biden campaign; when he made a speech that next morning about calling Arizona for Biden.

By the way, Biden is still called the winner in Arizona only by two media outlets. The Associated Press and Fox, nobody else, even CNN, which is about, as progressive as you can get.

Will Johnson: I know.

Barry Nussbaum: They haven't called Arizona, but the guy running Fox news Election Desk is a registered Democrat Biden contributor.

Channon: Interesting.

Barry Nussbaum: It doesn't really mean anything. It's not binding. It's not binding, so it doesn't mean anything. So, all the electoral counts are irreverent.

Anni Cyrus: Yeah, but Barry, isn't Fox News owned 60% by Saudi Arabia? Remember we talked about how they do not want Trump.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, there's a very, very heavy Saudi, yeah.

Anni Cyrus: They don't want Trump because of the Middle East ...

Will Johnson: I've heard that before.

Anni Cyrus: Listen, the Middle East is not going to survive another four years of Trump. Keep that in mind. Mainstream media is run by Islamic leaders, social media same thing. They will do everything they can because they have all announced, including the supreme leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Who announced last night, our time being this morning, their time, that they will be praying this Friday prayer, being tonight our time, for Biden to win.

Channon: Wow.

Anni Cyrus: They can't survive another four years of the Trump administration. Already Iran is on the verge of bankruptcy. They need Biden because Biden has guaranteed an Iran nuclear deal with them. That's millions and billions of dollars again.

Will Johnson: You know, it's just amazing that the four of us are having this conversation and, you know, a lot of us saw it coming. To be honest with you and on my nightly broadcast when I'm talking about it. I said, look, America is going to be completely different come November 4th.

A couple of scenarios and no one knows what exactly scenario is going to take place. A lot of people got really close. Some people even wrote literature about it. They got extremely close because they see the writing on the wall. Right now, America, and I truly believe this, I hope that, and I pray that I'm wrong. I think America is on the verge of just exploding, imploding, just total chaos because the election is a total failure.

Channon: Yeah, I think we're all in agreement, and I think we need to push it. I think we need to push that we need a recount. We just redo the election, especially in these controversial battleground states.

Barry Nussbaum: I like, Will's comment is perfect.

Anni Cyrus: Yeah, but let me ask everyone this.

Barry Nussbaum: Go ahead.

Anni Cyrus: But how do we do, as Barry says, unless there are restrictions put in place, redoing this election is not going to fix anything because the same thing is going to happen again. The problem is within our system.

Will Johnson: Yeah, you're right.

Channon: Yeah, I mean, just like Israel did. They put in protections for next time to make sure that it was fair, and every account was voted fairly. That's what we'll have to do, or this will always be a question in our history.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: It will.

Will Johnson: Yeah, and I'm telling you, because of all the fraudulent stuff, I mean, me and millions upon millions of other people would never accept it. President Trump should not accept this either. President should not accept this.

President Trump should not leave the White House, and part of what we're seeing, everyone out there listening. I'm looking on Facebook where we have this post. I personally can't go to my mobile device. I can't comment to anyone on Facebook.

My personal account has been locked out for 30 days because I put a question out there. Just a simple question out there. But I have admins that I was able to post this particular broadcast that we're on right now on Facebook. There's a lot of people engaging on Facebook.

People say, you know, they're talking about what's happening, everyone is engaging, and people have even been nasty towards me on there, calling me names. We cannot allow the Democrats or anybody, for that matter. I don't care if it was Republicans. If Republicans were doing this, I would be upset because I consider myself a registered Republican.

I would be upset that if Republicans were doing this. So, it doesn't matter who's doing this across the board. This should not be taking place in our country. The biggest problem that we are going to face tomorrow is that Joe Biden and the Democrats are already saying this is a win for them.

Nancy Pelosi said, “No matter what happened, Joe Biden will be President.” Joe Biden is President. They're already planting that seed in everybody's mind, and everyone hears it. They say, yes, Joe won. Because they're still not showing Joe Biden at 270, they are showing him at 264. He has not won.

That's why we're starting to see some rioting already take place in Portland, Seattle, New York, and even Atlanta. We're already seeing the rioting take place because they're not giving it to Joe. They say, just give it to him, just give it to him. I say no. It needs to be fair.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, we need to figure it out, going back to what I said a few minutes ago. What's the remedy for the fraud? Everybody that's paying any attention, Will, knows there's a bunch probably in the millions of goofy ballots that are arriving from some weird place that is not necessarily connected to a real vote.

So, the question is, if you can prove that look, there was a postal worker that went public this morning with an unbelievable whistleblowers story. I don't know if you've heard this yet. He's a United States postal worker working in the post office in a district where he was told on Wednesday, yesterday, in a jurisdiction where the postmark had to be on Election Day or earlier for the ballots to count.

So, what the post office was doing was separating the ballots that came in after Tuesday. Why? Because they weren't going to be used. Why? Because that was state law. Do you know what this guy says? And he's gone public. He said his supervisor at the post office said manually hand stamp every ballot in that box. Apparently, it was a big box, and stamp them yesterday.

Meaning they were arrived by the statutory deadline. The guy said to the supervisor, well, that means they are all going to be counted, but they came in late. He was ordered to do it. Now, how do you figure out what to do? You don't know how many ballots it was, right? Those are now ...

Will Johnson: Right.

Barry Nussbaum: Illegal ballots that were made kosher because the guy put yesterday's handstamp. So, if you're an inspector, even if you're a National Guard soldier in some places the Guard has been called in to guard these polling centers and to do some administrative work, and you're instructed, okay Private Smith, your job is just to check for postmarks.

If the private does his job and I assume he would honestly and ethically he's going to see a Tuesday, November 3rd, postmark. That goes in the good pile, doesn't it? But it's fate. How are you going to correct that? What's the remedy? I don't know, other than a revote.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: And then you have somebody in there all the time.

Channon: Do you think the whole country should revote, or do you think just the swing states?

Will Johnson: Just the states that they're having all of these major problems because, to be honest with you. One state that I would like to see them do a recount primarily, or one of them. Not primarily just the one. But I would like to see California be one of those states that they do a recount, and they wait until they get all of the ballots from people going to vote in person.

Because for them, I took a screenshot of it. It said zero counted, zero reported, and had a checkmark by it. So, how is it that you count zero ballots, like what did it say, that California would never change? Would California never accept a President like President Trump? The last President that they supported that was a Republican was Bush. Bush the daddy.

Channon: They didn't just do that for California, though. They did it for Oregon and Washington.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: Well, let me tell you how they do that. OK, remember what I said earlier. When they call a state for Biden in this example, it's binding on nobody and means nothing the way they determine that is by exit polling. So, in other words, there are pollsters out in front of X number of voting places.

Excuse me, sir, did you vote? Yes. Would you mind telling me who you voted for? If they see overwhelming numbers breaking one way or the other. They will call it early, and that's how they do it. Now, the irony is a lot of people lie to exit polls because they are for the Republicans.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Channon: Yeah, because the Fox News guy that was talking about how they called Virginia. They call Virginia extremely early as well, and they said it was because of the polling. They said we did such extensive polling. We know that these states are going to Biden.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, you know, I have a party on election night, and everybody sitting around me was so upset because it was 50% counted, and Trump was way ahead. They had already called Virginia for Biden. Everybody on the couch in my family room was freaking out. How could they do that? I told them, exit polls. Sometimes they just get them wrong. Then they have to pull back.

Channon: Yeah, we've had a lot of people tell us that they purposely lie when they've been questioned.

Will Johnson: The exit polls need to go away.

Channon: But Barry, I'm still interested. Do you think the whole country should revote or who do you think should revote?

Barry Nussbaum: I don't know the answer to that. The reason I don't is, I think what we're talking about is such an outrageous long shot. But honest to God, it would restore people's faith in our democratic process.

Channon: Exactly.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: That the elections are BS. Republicans are saying it, and Democrats are saying it, you know.

Channon: Yes.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: It would not be a big deal, and I want to commend Will. The expense of a new election with new rules is nothing compared to the catastrophic loss of confidence in our democratic way of life. I think this election has undermined people's confidence. We look like a frickin banana republic. This is like Venezuela, where there's an election, you know, and a dictator wins with 134% of the vote, and people go ...

Will Johnson: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: Oh, look how popular he is, and then somebody chimes in, well, there are 13 million more people that voted than even live in Venezuela, you know, and then that guy's family disappears, and his house burns down. People don't make those comments without something catastrophic happening to them. That's what those countries are famous for. The elections are total BS. We look at that here.

Anni Cyrus: Barry, let's look at the more recent date, 2009, the Green Revolution in Iran. When people came out on the streets with the hashtag, where is my vote? The government started shooting them on the street and said, “Go home, your vote doesn't count.” Which, by the way, I respect those mullahs better than I respect Democrats right now.

Because at least they came out and said, your vote doesn't count. Well, remember, it was Obama's time when people were in the streets screaming, Obama helps us, and Obama didn't do anything. That is happening today, right here in America.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, that was the green revolution, and he crushed it. Yeah, it was Biden. Sorry I didn't mean that. It was Obama who let them be mowed down in the streets, mowed down in the streets.

Anni Cyrus: No, one of the comments Obama made back then was an election is an election. We respect the results given by the government of Iran as a result of their election. They're doing the same thing right now. When I tell people, I'm watching history repeat itself in a different country. They don't believe me.

Channon: Of course, they don't because they haven't experienced it.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: See, that's the problem. In America, we have blinders on. It doesn't happen; it's not going to happen unless it happens to us first. You have to experience it yourself.

Barry Nussbaum: It's happened, girl. It's happening right now.

Channon: I know.

Barry Nussbaum: There is a story, I think it's in Michigan, where somebody said after the poll workers had gotten sent home at four o'clock in the morning, a truck pulled up with, some unbelievable number of 40,000 ballots in one precinct, 40,000 or 50,000 ballots.

Fifty thousand of them, I mean, what did they have a factory produce these? That's an insane amount of ballets. They got dumped in, and when the poll workers came back, they counted them. Your recount won't find that.

Channon: This is the first time within the past 48 hours where I’ve seen we might have a valid remedy. I feel like we need to push for a revote, even if our small voices are the beginning of it. We need to start pushing it.

Will Johnson: Seriously, we need to. It needs to happen, and you know what? They can't use the excuse that we're in the middle of a plandemic.

Channon: Because I haven't heard anybody say it except right here today ...

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: At this moment.

Will Johnson: Yeah, definitely. They can't use the excuse that we're in a plandemic because they saw a record number of people turning out to vote, personally. So, that excuse is out the window. There's no excuse for it. They can't use that excuse. So, what about all these people?

Because if that's the case, then everybody who went to vote should be sick right now. But that's not the case. They can't use that, and that's the only reason why. The Democrats found a mechanism by bringing the plandemic, and then they can use that to get people to say, we're going to do mail-in ballots. Then they flooded the system with mail-in ballots.

Barry Nussbaum: Isn't it interesting, Will, that you can riot in the streets with BLM, hundreds of thousands of people, but you can't go to church? You can go to a liquor store, but you can't go to school. You can go to Home Depot, but you're not supposed to go vote in person.

Will Johnson: Exactly, or you can go to the strip club.

Channon:  You can go vote if you're dead.

Will Johnson: Or you can go to the strip club. You know, here in Texas, they shut down everything, and when they open everything back up, well before they opened everything back up, they opened up the strip bars. So, you can throw your dollars where you want to because that was considered essential. We live in such a crazy world.

Barry Nussbaum: Will, I was going to say that it is an essential business. Look, in California, the new rules in California, and this is not a joke. For Thanksgiving, you're not allowed to have more than ten people.

Will Johnson: Yep.

Barry Nussbaum: You have to eat outside, you can't sing, you can't talk loudly, everyone must be gone in under two hours. You can't have people eating turkey from one plate. You can only use one bathroom that is sanitized after each use. I'm not making this up.

Will Johnson: Wow.

Channon: Yeah, I know. I have family going.

Barry Nussbaum: What happened to the world?

Will Johnson: Yeah, I mean, it sounds like communist ...

Channon: A communist country

Donald Trump: China.

Will Johnson: That's what it sounds like to me. It sounds like ...

Donald Trump:  China.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, and so you need to go to a re-education camp if you can't follow the rules, Will. So, you know what? Here's my thing, and to answer your earlier question, 99% of the people can go vote in person, and we do. What happens is you demand that every licensed media outlet encourage people to go vote in person and to take a valid I.D. proving their citizenship and their residency.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: Then there's a certain, look, if you're 80 years old and you've got a heart condition. You're an at-risk person. You know what? You ought to be able to request an absentee ballot. Why? Because it's safer for you. So, you're not exposed, and you know what that percentage is? That's under 1% of the population.

Channon: Exactly.

Will Johnson: Yep.

Barry Nussbaum: And they should be able to do it. Protect those people.

Will Johnson: You're 100% correct. You're 100% correct.

Channon: There's a valid reason for an absentee ballot. Not because you're scared of COVID, or the Democrats have told you this is just what you're going to do. That's what they did in some states. They say this is what you are going to do.

Will Johnson: Well, you know what? I can see the Democrats coming back and said, well, what about the military personnel that is overseas? You have them fill out a ballot and send it in then. Or can we just go ahead and just leave the military ballots alone and recount those. I mean, I'm pretty sure we can determine the difference between the military ballots vs. just the ballots that we get here in the civilian population.

Barry Nussbaum: They come in through a channel. They come in through the military.

Will Johnson: Yeah, they come in through the military. But if not, money is no object.

Barry Nussbaum: No, the money is nothing.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Barry Nussbaum: We spend trillions on this PPE thing that vanished into the air, right? When Trump wanted five billion dollars to finish the wall, Nancy Pelosi had a stroke. We can't afford it, but she can ask 200 times that, which equals a trillion dollars.

Channon: For the Kennedy Center.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, like it's walking around money, right?

Will Johnson: For the arts.

Barry Nussbaum: The cost of a redo of the election to re-establish the faith in our Democracy is the best investment this country will have ever made since World War II.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Channon:  I love that statement. We need to like plaster that everywhere.

Will Johnson: It needs to happen. It needs to happen because if it doesn't happen, the integrity of our voting system right now, and we can't be the only ones taking this. We can't possibly be the only ones talking about this because this is a no-brainer.

Channon: Because I've seen recounts and all this stuff, but I haven't seen a revote.

Will Johnson: A recount is not going to work because, just like Barry mentioned earlier, we're recounting fraudulent ballots.

Channon: Right, and still, people are always going to question at this point. Unless we create a blank slate, start over, put certain controls and systems in place to make sure. Just like you said, they have to show an ID. They have to show proof of residency. Those are the only ways that people are going to go, okay, that will make people feel comfortable or recreate their faith in our Democracy. Because right now, nobody does. So many people are like this, is that not right. Even Democrats are like, what is going on?

Will Johnson: Yeah, there's some shadiness going on here. But let me say this, let me say that even for the recount. It can't be a recount. It needs to be a do-over. It has to be. It's not because I'm looking at it, and Trump is 214 and Biden is 264.

That has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with everything that we've been seeing taking place. The reason why I say a recount won't work, because what about all the ballots that have been on camera that they have been crumbling up and throwing away?

Channon: Yeah, where do they go?

Will Johnson: How do you recount those that have been put in the trash, and God knows where those ballots are?

Channon: Yeah, I think Barry brought that up. What happened to all those ballots at post offices, or you know, those were after the date? So, we can't decide which ones were not on the date and which ones were on the date.

Barry Nussbaum: There in the bin. There are in the big dumpster now with the rest of the valid ballots. Now they've been made. They've been validated because they have the proper, hello, they have the proper postage stamp.

Channon: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: Showing the date it was accepted.

Channon: Is it fair? Recounting those isn't fair because they originally were not valid. We made them valid, but originally, they were invalid.

Barry Nussbaum: Yeah, there were fraudulently stamped. So, at this point, they've been made good, even though they were, quote, “BS.” I'll bet you that you would see Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, massively for Trump. Massively for Trump if there was a new vote.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: And the votes got to be there. So, let's just say, just for fun, December 1st, that's Election Day. Okay, that means no late counting BS. You got to mail it early. It's got to be accepted. So, that day we'll know. You will know that night. It's all computerized, no more of this crap. It could all be done if we wanted it to.

Will Johnson: Yes, absolutely, and you know what? I think as American citizens for the betterment of this country. That's the only way this can get resolved. Because let me ask you this, Barry, let's say they get liberal judges to reject the recount, or let's just say they do a recount.

You know, the recount is going to take forever because all of a sudden, it's starting to look like Trump again, and then they're not going to call it. They shut down, closed the door, and send everyone home. Then the ballots show up again. How do we know that's not going to happen even on the recount? So, what do you think is going to happen?

Barry Nussbaum: You are recounting fraud. You're recounting fraud. That is that the problem.

Will Johnson: Exactly, there's no way. Yes, so let me ask you this. Because I agree with you, there's no way to have a fair election to do a recount. So, let's say that the Democrats refuse to do a new election. To have a revote and have people go in and vote. If it's just these key states that you just mentioned. If they refuse to do that, what does America look like to you? Because as Republicans, I think we've had enough of it. I think Republicans are going to say; I'm fed up with it.

They put the country through impeachment, the sham impeachment for three and a half years. That was fraudulent. They've done so much to the country. I think people are fed up. So, what do you think the country looks like? Do you think people are just going to say, okay? They are just going to roll over? Or do you think people are going to rise up? Because I had this conversation with Anni earlier.

Barry Nussbaum: I have two answers. No. 1, the Democrats in a billion years, and I mean that, in a billion years would never agree to a recount. It would have to be court-ordered, and it would have to be the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court very quickly would get this case like when they decided the 2000 election.

They didn't say who won. What they did was they ordered the Florida Election Commission to examine the hanging chads, if you remember that.

Will Johnson: Ah-huh.

Barry Nussbaum: In the Bush vs. Gore election, then they handed it back and said, “Figure it out.” The court doesn't do more than that. In this case, I think what would happen is the Trump lawyers would get in front of the Supreme Court, which now is six conservatives or five conservatives, three liberals and Mr. Roberts, however, wherever he decides to be that day.

They'd be asked, “What's a remedy, justice, for all the fraud? To make the point, Will, like we've been talking about, that counting of fake ballots again gives you the same answer you got the first time because you don't know where they came from ...

Will Johnson: Exactly.

Barry Nussbaum: And you don't know if they're real people, or as Annie said, there were people who drove in from L.A., walked into Vegas, signed up, got a ballot, voted, and drove back to Los Angeles, and that was a valid vote, according to the Nevada law.

So, a revote would eliminate that. A recount would just validate the BS. that it was the fake vote. To begin with, I think the remedy would be there'd be this movement. The lawyers would keep fighting and fighting and fighting.

They get to the Supreme Court and say there's too much fraud. Michigan cannot be counted fairly. Wisconsin can't be counted fairly. Pennsylvania is overrun in fraud. So is Georgia. So is Arizona. We want to redo...

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Barry Nussbaum: And honest to God, as I'm sitting here talking to you and listening to us, that makes sense because it could be done in two weeks.

Will Johnson: Yes.

Channon: It does. I mean, I'm sitting here thinking we have contacts that we could say, hey, help us get this out. We have contacts close to Trump that we could probably contact and just say, hey, we feel like this is what we need to do. I feel like this is the only thing.

Will Johnson: That's the only way to bring back integrity to the voting system in the United States of America. Counting, like Barry mentioned a minute ago, recounting fraudulent ballots is not the answer.

Anni Cyrus: May I add something here, Will, Barry, everybody?

Will Johnson: Absolutely, please.

Anni Cyrus: I completely hear what you're saying, and I 100% agree with you, but let's be realistic for a second. The hard, bitter reality, do you think for a second, at least half of this country cares if we have faith in our system or not? They don't care.

If you ask me, people like Kamala Harris, AOC, Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Keith Ellison, Hillary Clinton, they all prefer for us to lose faith in our government, in our system, in our country, because that just makes it that much easier.

I'll do what I always do to annoy everybody else. Let's go 40 years ago, back to you, Iran. The only reason the Islamic Revolution was successful was that people lost everything. Hope, belief, anything within the system.

The leftism, the Islamists in Iran, drove the people of Iran to believe that this country is so corrupt that there is no fixing it unless we completely change the system. That's how they run.

Barry Nussbaum: That's why the judges would have to do it. You'll never get the consent of the other side ever.

Will Johnson: Right.

Channon: Right.

Barry Nussbaum: Because they don't care how they got to the finish line because their guy won.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: But you know what? If we're crying for unity, supposedly the Democrats are.

Anni Cyrus: Yeah, but which Judge is going to do it.

Channon: Go ahead.

Barry Nussbaum: It'll go to the Supreme Court.

Channon: Right.

Barry Nussbaum: It'll go to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court will do it.

Anni Cyrus: And that's my question. Do you think our Supreme Court right now is where we can get that call from them?

Barry Nussbaum: Oh, maybe if there's ...

Anni Cyrus: Maybe there you go ...

Barry Nussbaum: If there is a constitutional basis for it. If there's a constitutional basis, yes.

Anni Cyrus: That's my biggest fear.

Channon: You have to have that argument.

Anni Cyrus: Maybe it's time we practice our own rights.

Will Johnson: Yeah. I agree.

Anni Cyrus: We, the people, have the right to petition our government. Let's do that.

Will Johnson: Yes. Yeah, and you know what? Barry's right, the other side, and never in a billion years would ever come to the table on anything, especially right now, because right now, all they see in their eyes is Trump / Pence out now.

That's all that they see. That's all that they hear. That's all that they want. They don't care about the truth. They don't care about the votes. They really don't care. Right now, all that they want is to turn America into a socialist-communist country.

They see a pathway on them doing that, and they're going to fight for that. We're fighting for, you see, that's part of the problem as far as Republicans. They're fighting for everybody, even Democrats, to come back and vote.

Channon: We want this election to be fair.

Will Johnson: Yeah, and to be fair.

Channon: We have to lose fairly, not lose fraudulently.

Will Johnson: Exactly.

Channon: There is a difference.

Will Johnson: Yeah, exactly. If it was all fair, then, you know, it was fair. But what we see here is 100% not fair. But the Democrats don't deal in stuff being fair either. Look at the big tech companies. Look at the mainstream media.

It's their agenda, and in their mind, that's what they want to push. For them, that is fair. That is just everything that they're doing. Because like I just mentioned a second ago. It all comes down to removing and caring less if it was fair or not.

Realistically, just to be honest and be straight up. They could care less about someone putting in $100,000 for Joe Biden. They don't care as long as they get Joe and get Trump out. They could care less. They will look the other way and will be and be happy to do so.

Barry Nussbaum: Agreed.

Anni Cyrus: Agreed, and that's again, where I go back to, we the people need to do this. We, the people. Personally, I am sick and tired of my intelligence being insulted by the government. Whichever side, I don't care. As President Trump's son tweeted today, “where is a GOP? Where are they? Are you just going to sit back and let my father fight again, alone?” At this point ...

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: Yeah. I'm disappointed in the GOP.

Anni Cyrus: Me too. I feel like an American. I have no choice but to fight myself, which is my right to petition my government. Regardless of the results of this election or re-election or new election or recount, we have got to demand a flawless, complete advanced system of our election. End of the story; we can't have this every four years.

Will Johnson: Yeah, you know what that?

Barry Nussbaum: No kidding.

Will Johnson: Let me say this before this election came along, I made a prediction. I said this could very well be the last election in this country has. I hope that I'm wrong, and I want to be wrong. But based on what we see here, this is not a fair election. All the videos and all the information are coming out.

The reports from the UPS and the post office about all the stuff that's taking place. Never again will we trust the voting system. Never again. This is it. The Democrats have successfully crushed the strength or the confidence in the electoral system in this country. It is gone.

Channon: Yeah. You know, it's time for the American citizens to take a stand. I mean, we're supposed to be a government that is by the people and for the people. The GOP is not representing us. We need to make our voices heard.

We need to get out there, fight for America. If we don't, we will lose it. At this very moment; we're at such a junction in our history where if we don't take a stand, it is gone forever. I don't know if we'll ever get a Republican back there if we don't keep Trump in there now.

Anni Cyrus: I agree this isn't about fighting to keep our country. Today, it's about fighting to take back our country.

Will Johnson: Right.

Channon: Yeah.

Anni Cyrus: It's not about keeping it. We don't have it at the moment.

Channon: Well, I think we have an opportunity ...

Will Johnson: Yeah, I think there are still opportunities. We are not giving up because President Trump just won that lawsuit, and we see positive stuff happening in Arizona. If that keeps up, I don't know.

Channon: I mean, I still recognize America. I still recognize Americans. I'm afraid if Biden gets in there, I will not ever recognize it again. So, that's what I'm saying. We still have something to fight for here. But if we don't fight now, it will become something I won't recognize again.

We're not going to see somebody that we're excited about like when Trump comes out. You see flags everywhere. You see the American flag going up everywhere. I think there's this whole movement where, if you have an American flag, your hated.

Will Johnson: Yeah. Yeah, your hated or if you have a Trump sign, your hated.

Channon: I feel like if Biden wins ...

Barry Nussbaum: Because you're a racist.

Channon: That momentum is going to serge.

Will Johnson: Exactly, or you are racists.

Channon: It's going to surge because they'll now be empowered. They won't have anybody out there fighting for America. You hear Biden out there, and he talks about China ...

Donald Trump: China.

Channon: And he talks about the global system. He doesn't sit here and go; I want America to be successful. I want to keep American jobs here. He doesn't say that.

Will Johnson: Well, he started plagiarizing Trump, President Trump's speech ...

Anni Cyrus: I'm sorry. I need to stop everybody. We have 60 seconds before we are dropped from airtime.

Channon: We'll wrap it up.


Anni Cyrus: Will, if you don't mind, Barry and I will say goodbye to you and your audience and let you wrap up your show.

Will Johnson: Yeah.

Channon: Thank you, guys.

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